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#1 2012-07-11 21:15:38

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Arch eXtream rEbuilder

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#2 2012-07-16 15:45:29

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#3 2012-07-18 14:23:57

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#4 2012-07-18 23:21:43

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Re: Arch eXtream rEbuilder

I don't mean to be a jerk, but it may be a wiser use of your time--and add up to less wasted space and bandwidth on these forums--if you got yourself a github, rather than announcing every frustration and failure here on the forums.  As it is, this thread reads as nothing short of manic: You joined the forums to announce an very ambitious project, announced that it was mostly working and provided the script itself, then gave up and left Arch in the dirt without any explanation, then picked it back up and edited the OP, which removed the context of the two posts following it, and further announced that the script works, but might require unofficial PKGBUILDs to do so (also without explanation).  And you did all this in the span of six days.  Using github would make things seem much less... well, incoherent than they do, and wouldn't require you to change the code in the OP every time you tweak something.

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#5 2012-07-19 12:20:51

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#6 2012-07-22 21:37:27

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#7 2012-08-20 05:01:41

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Re: Arch eXtream rEbuilder

Awesome, i have using Lunar Linux in one of my workstations. This script sounds really good. I'm going to trying. Thanks.


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#8 2012-08-20 16:08:38

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Re: Arch eXtream rEbuilder

looks like  a new arch wiki page might be a good solution to have people find this code.
The script itself should probably be hosted somewhere as a tar.gz file to avoid copy/paste errors.

atm the script looks like it's tailored to intel I7 processors, could it be adapted to work also for other intel and amd procs ?


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#9 2012-08-23 18:03:48

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Re: Arch eXtream rEbuilder

Wow some interest smile , got to admit i had left it for a while cos i honestly though no one was in the slightest bit interested smile. But hey will get back to it if there is people benefiting.
Script works quite well as is but there are issues due to arch itself.
1) The arch build process includes all the build-time tests, this increases build time by a factor of x5 or more, especially for the toolchain builds, gentoo does not include these tests as standard and hence builds MUCH faster, to turn the tests off at the moment would require PKGBUILD modification ( maybe not, maybe an enviromental variable will do it ???)
2) Arch bumps gcc upgrades on minor versions this means a lot of rebuilding of the toolchain, not really a problem but combined with the point above is a real pain
3) ABS seems less maintained then arch packages themselves, there are many ABS build fails in clean chroot environment ( approx 1%in my tests ), most of these get fixed eventually, but that means at least a few packages in a fully optimised system will be original arch binaries ( for a while anyway )

well now back at it will try to write my way round these issues smile

Lone_wolf

yep you should be good to go with any processor since the script disseminates -march=native and sticks the flags in for you ( or puts in -march=native if you prefer ), but according to gentoo circles you wont get a lot of benefit from optimising for other architectures, whereas >GCC-4.70 has made massive improvements in i7 handling not a lot has changed with the other pc architectures.

Can i do the wiki page or is there some vetting process? and yes i experimented with github but got nowhere fast smile would like to find somewhere to host it that wasn't rapidshare or something equally as crass smile

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#10 2012-08-26 14:17:21

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Re: Arch eXtream rEbuilder

gemma wrote:

3) ABS seems less maintained then arch packages themselves, there are many ABS build fails in clean chroot environment ( approx 1%in my tests ), most of these get fixed eventually, but that means at least a few packages in a fully optimised system will be original arch binaries ( for a while anyway )

It does seem that arch development would benefit from some kind of automated build system, that builds all packages regularly like every 2-4 weeks,
just to find out build fails like those.

gemma wrote:

Lone_wolf

yep you should be good to go with any processor since the script disseminates -march=native and sticks the flags in for you ( or puts in -march=native if you prefer ), but according to gentoo circles you wont get a lot of benefit from optimising for other architectures, whereas >GCC-4.70 has made massive improvements in i7 handling not a lot has changed with the other pc architectures.

My main system is a dual socket system with 2 quad-core amd opterons, and i have been thinking there might be  a benefit from using optimised builds.

gemma wrote:

Can i do the wiki page or is there some vetting process? and yes i experimented with github but got nowhere fast smile would like to find somewhere to host it that wasn't rapidshare or something equally as crass smile

Anyone can start  a new wiki page, but you should check the guidelines for how to set it up correctly (there are lots of useful templates for example).
The main question will be what category this wiki page should be under.

Github is intended for development with a version control system , but for filehosting you don't need that.
Many people use dropbox, my personal favorite is box.com .
Both have free accounts, check them out.


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#11 2012-08-26 14:26:52

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Re: Arch eXtream rEbuilder

ANOKNUSA wrote:

... you got yourself a github, rather than announcing every frustration and failure here on the forums.

+1
The code chunk you posted it pretty large.  Most would suggest that you use pastebin or the like and github seems like a good suggestion.  You will have the added benefit of version control.

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#12 2012-08-26 16:47:56

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#13 2012-08-29 22:04:34

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#14 2012-09-19 20:27:56

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Re: Arch eXtream rEbuilder

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