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#1 2012-08-29 21:18:44

Ventil1
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[Solved] No hdmi after boot

I made system upgrade yesterday. Ever since monitor over hdmi doesn't work anymore. It works when the boot procees is doing it's thing. But it shuts down when I should see user login and pass in the console.
I have d2700dc motherboard. Is there anything I can do or try? Thanks

Last edited by Ventil1 (2012-09-25 14:15:30)

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#2 2012-08-30 15:03:47

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Re: [Solved] No hdmi after boot

I expect that *many* would love to help you, but you've not given enough information for people to work with:
Can you actually log in?
What window manager are you using ?
Does the output of 'dmesg' give any clue as to the problem ?
What video card do you have ?
Have you tried re-installing the relevant driver for the card ?

etc...

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#3 2012-08-30 18:58:03

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Re: [Solved] No hdmi after boot

Thank you for your reply theshadster.
I can login cause I can reboot once logged in.
I don't have a window manager. Only console.
I can't see what dmesg outputs cause I can not see anything after udev in boot process. So I can not even see when I login or type in password.
Graphic card is integrated    Intel® GMA 3650.

Everything worked fine until pacman -Syu on 27th. august. Is there anything that I can try? Can I interrupt the boot process before udev? I don't want to install arch from scratch again. I just finished setuping up LAMP and stuff

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#4 2012-08-30 19:04:52

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Re: [Solved] No hdmi after boot

I can't see anything. My  motherboard only has DVI and HDMI output. I don't have a DVI monitor

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#5 2012-08-30 19:05:29

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Re: [Solved] No hdmi after boot

I can login cause I can reboot once logged in

Can you type 'dmesg' at the prompt ? That should give some info...

EDIT: Cross-posted... you can't see *anything* ?
Do you have the option of 'Starting in Safe Mode' at the login screen ?
{EDIT} 'That should be Arch Linux Fallback'

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#6 2012-08-30 19:57:21

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Re: [Solved] No hdmi after boot

theshadster wrote:

I can login cause I can reboot once logged in

Can you type 'dmesg' at the prompt ? That should give some info...

EDIT: Cross-posted... you can't see *anything* ?
Do you have the option of 'Starting in Safe Mode' at the login screen ?
{EDIT} 'That should be Arch Linux Fallback'

I have that Fallback option. But it's the same thing.

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#7 2012-08-30 20:06:42

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Re: [Solved] No hdmi after boot

Not the kernel then...
If you hit 'tab' when offered the boot screen, you could edit the kernel line... maybe remove any 'vga=773' you may have;
add 'nomodset'; add 'acpi=off'; add 'nokmsboot'...

I'd try these one-at-a-time though, then you can report back the effect of each.

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#8 2012-08-30 20:17:01

Ventil1
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Re: [Solved] No hdmi after boot

theshadster wrote:

Not the kernel then...
If you hit 'tab' when offered the boot screen, you could edit the kernel line... maybe remove any 'vga=773' you may have;
add 'nomodset'; add 'acpi=off'; add 'nokmsboot'...

I'd try these one-at-a-time though, then you can report back the effect of each.

Thank you for quick replys theshadster.
Unfortunately none of those work. I see no change when using them one by one

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#9 2012-08-30 20:25:26

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Re: [Solved] No hdmi after boot

Are you sure your monitor is plugged in ? lol

Are you running systemd ?
Are you using grub/grub2/lilo/heavens-knows-what ?

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#10 2012-08-30 20:32:08

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Re: [Solved] No hdmi after boot

You could always boot using the Arch CD and mount your root partition ( mkdir /mnt/myroot; mount /dev/sd? (<- your root partition)  /mnt/myroot ) and then examine the log files for error messages...

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#11 2012-08-30 20:46:06

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Re: [Solved] No hdmi after boot

theshadster wrote:

Are you sure your monitor is plugged in ? lol

Are you running systemd ?
Are you using grub/grub2/lilo/heavens-knows-what ?

Monitor is plugged in cause I can see boot process until udev.
I am not sure what systemd is.
I think I am using lilo smile

I will try to boot from arch CD and check the log files in the morning. And get back


Thanks again for all the help theshadster

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#12 2012-09-01 10:29:08

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Re: [Solved] No hdmi after boot

I booted using Arch USB, mounted my root partition and then commented out the line "udevd_modprobe sysinit" in /etc/rc.sysinit. After reboot my display works again, woohoo!!
I checked the log files and found no errors.

So I am sure it's got something to do with that linee now. I need to solve this and enable udev again. Got no idea how to do that. Any help appreciated

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#13 2012-09-01 11:09:25

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#14 2012-09-01 12:13:24

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Re: [Solved] No hdmi after boot

I run the "mkinitcpio -p linux". The image was build but the display still doesn't work.

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#15 2012-09-01 19:12:13

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Re: [Solved] No hdmi after boot

Have you checked this thread out:

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=144445

All about the driver for your card.

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#16 2012-09-01 22:10:16

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Re: [Solved] No hdmi after boot

theshadster wrote:

Have you checked this thread out:

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=144445

All about the driver for your card.

Ok I see lots of people have problems with this graphic card. It's drivers problem. I know where to look next.

Thanks again for all your help theshadster. I really appreciate it

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#17 2012-09-04 14:15:02

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Re: [Solved] No hdmi after boot

Can I block udev not to handle/load(whatever) my graphic card and let him do it's job? Cause I can see stuff on my monitor if udev or systemd is disabled.

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#18 2012-09-25 13:27:10

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Re: [Solved] No hdmi after boot

Did you install the driver from the other thread? HDMI / VGA out doesn't work with the fbdev / vesa driver most people use by default. If you want to get video out working you have to install the pvr driver from the 3600 thread. 2D performance is rather bad on it though so if you want to do anything other than watch hd videos in mplayer with it its not really worth your time to set up.

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#19 2012-09-25 13:59:02

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Re: [Solved] No hdmi after boot

I just installed linux-lts kernel using

#pacman -S linux-lts

My screen works now! I just need it to setup my server. Thank you all for help

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#20 2012-09-26 20:04:20

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Re: [Solved] No hdmi after boot

I've run into the same issue on exactly the same d2700dc motherboard.

But in my situation it's even worse. I havent been using archlinux for a few months and now I'm willing to make a new installation. So I've downloaded the latest iso release (20120907) and put it to USB drive. It boots fine and shows me boot menu, which asks me to choose x86 or x64 version. But whatever I choose, shortly after "loading udev" line screen just goes black. System is booted fine though, cause I can blindly enter commands like "reboot" or "shutdown", but I just can't see anything after udev line. And this is just the iso release - even not installed.
Installing linux-lts obviously is not an option, cause I can't even get into the console of USB iso to install the system to the HDD. And, of course, none of "nomodeset", "vga=791", "video:LVDS-1:d" and others kernel line options or their combination does not work - screen always goes black.

Could anyone tell exactly the name of this "wonderful" gma3600 driver in order to blacklist it by some kernel line option?
Or how to tell the system NOT to boot any (faulty) video driver and use only vesafb?

PS: When I tried to install Arch about 4 month ago there also were some troubles with video drivers, but then it at least always showed something on the screen, so there were chanses to debug these things. But now with the blank display, it's just... great! - that's all I can say.

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#21 2012-09-27 08:35:38

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Re: [Solved] No hdmi after boot

Download a little older iso. I think mine must be just a few days older then yours.

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#22 2012-09-28 05:59:56

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Re: [Solved] No hdmi after boot

It might work however I wanted to install exactly the latest version since I heard that in newer 3.5 kernels there finally had been fixed a nasty bug with mine USB-Wifi adapter.
So installing older release and using linux-lst kernel is pointless in my case.

Looks like I just need to wait for another 3-4 months and hope that this video driver issue will be fixed by then.

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#23 2012-10-11 06:41:31

ioxenus
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Re: [Solved] No hdmi after boot

rand256, have you accidentally made a typo here?

rand256 wrote:

And, of course, none of "nomodeset", "vga=791", "video:LVDS-1:d" and others kernel line options or their combination does not work - screen always goes black.

video=LVDS-1:d

Setting that (with an equal sign instead of the first colon) actually helped me.
Maybe you got misleaded somewhere?

Last edited by ioxenus (2012-10-11 06:45:22)

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#24 2012-10-13 12:58:03

Ventil1
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Re: [Solved] No hdmi after boot

ioxenus wrote:

rand256, have you accidentally made a typo here?

rand256 wrote:

And, of course, none of "nomodeset", "vga=791", "video:LVDS-1:d" and others kernel line options or their combination does not work - screen always goes black.

video=LVDS-1:d

Setting that (with an equal sign instead of the first colon) actually helped me.
Maybe you got misleaded somewhere?

That works for me too! Thans a lot ioxenus.

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#25 2012-10-22 20:53:59

mini
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Re: [Solved] No hdmi after boot

Sorry it does not work. I have got error:
/init:eval:line:video:LVDS-1:d=y:not found

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