Guide to install Arch linux in 2012

totsim3 · 2012-09-01 16:32:28

Hello.

Im trying to make a clean installation of arch linux, as I always have been doing and ive always been satisfied with arch linux.

Now it just seems impossible; im doing a clean installation then i just cant get past the **** glibc update problem.

This does NOT work:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/De … iki:usrlib

Tried some weird fixes provided by users on the forum, but they didnt work either.

So after a clean installation; How do i continue to install programs and then start using Arch Linux?

Thank you.

2ManyDogs · 2012-09-01 16:36:41

How are you doing the "clean installation" (what guide and install media are you using)? If you use the latest install media and follow the Beginners Guide you should not encounter the glibc issue.

totsim3 · 2012-09-01 16:39:19

archlinux-2012.08.04-dual.iso

Getting the core installation from the kernel.org server.

I just cant get past the glibc problem.

totsim3 · 2012-09-01 16:52:45

core-local choice in installation with that iso file gives the same problem.

nrujac · 2012-09-01 17:19:21

What pacstrap command are you using to install the system, and can you list where you mounted your disk?

2ManyDogs · 2012-09-01 17:21:23

What documentation are you using? The 08.04 media is supposed to be used with the Beginners' Guide or the Installation Guide. Both use pacstrap to install base and base-devel.

# pacstrap /mnt base base-devel

totsim3 · 2012-09-01 17:44:39

I can see now how this thread should be in the newbie corner and I am sorry for this.

I am installing the core from the .iso above that I am booting from a USB-stick. Doing it locally (getting the packages from the .iso) gives me and old glibc package and the problem with updating it afterwards.
Getting the core from a server (kernel.org for example) gives me dependency problems:
warning: dependency cycle detected:
warning: dbus-core will be installed before its systemd dependency

wich results in totally empy configuration files and that mkinitcpio doesnt exist.

Is the installation on the .iso that i use broken or am I doing something wrong?

My plan is to get the core and then just keep installing the programs that I want in my system, just as I used to do.

nrujac · 2012-09-01 17:46:39

I thought the newest isos stopped distributing packages on the disk, am I wrong about that? In any case, are you grabbing the packages off the disk because you can't get internet working? Because if you have a working connection, there's no reason to try and get the packages off of the iso.

2ManyDogs · 2012-09-01 17:55:01

I don't know why you're trying to install "core" -- read the Beginners Guide: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners%27_Guide

You need to have a working internet connection, and the command to install the base system is

pacstrap /mnt base base-devel

Nothing about "core" or "core-local" -- where are you seeing a "core" or "core-local" choice?

totsim3 · 2012-09-01 18:26:08

Well im booting the .iso from a USB stick. then running the /arch/setup script.
Then choosing "source";
I can choose local: take the packages from the .iso (wich include an old glibc and that seems to be a major problem)
OR from internet; kernel.org or any other server. Then im not choosing any other packages besides from the core and the /arch/setup script says:
warning: dependency cycle detected:
warning: dbus-core will be installed before its systemd dependency

Then the whole thing fails due to the dependency problems.

I will read the beginnersguide now and try again.

Edit: Getting the arch linux core from a server (netinstall) should be fine, but i cant since i get those dependency problems. After the "warnings" the script just starts to download all the packages. Leaving me with an non-working arch linux afterwards.
Any ideas of how to solve this?

Thank you.

Last edited by totsim3 (2012-09-01 18:33:01)

mcloaked · 2012-09-01 18:37:55

totsim3 wrote:

Well im booting the .iso from a USB stick. then running the /arch/setup script.
Then choosing "source";
I can choose local: take the packages from the .iso (wich include an old glibc and that seems to be a major problem)
OR from internet; kernel.org or any other server. Then im not choosing any other packages besides from the core and the /arch/setup script says:
warning: dependency cycle detected:
warning: dbus-core will be installed before its systemd dependency
Then the whole thing fails due to the dependency problems.
I will read the beginnersguide now and try again.

Edit: Getting the arch linux core from a server (netinstall) should be fine, but i cant since i get those dependency problems. After the "warnings" the script just starts to download all the packages. Leaving me with an non-working arch linux afterwards.
Any ideas of how to solve this?
Thank you.

I believe that arch/setup as a command is obsolete now - might be best to follow https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners'_Guide

totsim3 · 2012-09-01 18:43:03

Ive noticed that the some of the languages that the beginners guide is written in are old versions.

Once again, thank you. I will try the pacstrap script.

nrujac · 2012-09-01 18:44:43

totsim3 wrote:

Ive noticed that the some of the languages that the beginners guide is written in are old versions.

That needs to be fixed... what languages?

EDIT: Try and follow the english language one for now, it should be up to date.

Last edited by nrujac (2012-09-01 18:45:24)

totsim3 · 2012-09-01 18:50:50

The beginners guide in swedish doesnt mention the pacstrap script. Only that the you should run /arch/setup that is broken.

2ManyDogs · 2012-09-01 18:55:33

Yes, that's very broken. sorry about that. I don't know how to get the Swedish BG updated. I wonder why /arch/setup is still in the iso?

Last edited by 2ManyDogs (2012-09-01 18:56:54)

totsim3 · 2012-09-01 18:57:42

It also seems like:
https://www.archlinux.org/iso/2012.08.0 … so.torrent

Gives you a .iso with the /arch/setup and pacstrap not even included.

Im downloading:
archlinux-2012.08.07_04-00-01-netinstall-x86_64.iso
now hoping to get the pacstrap script.

Last edited by totsim3 (2012-09-01 18:59:46)

nrujac · 2012-09-01 19:03:13

I'm not sure how that's possible... I downloaded that exact iso just yesterday (directly through a mirror) and installed a system using pacstrap. Can you try downloading the iso directly from one of the mirrors? Maybe the torrent file you chose is downloading an older iso incorrectly (i.e. the person who created it accidentally clicked the wrong file when going to make the torrent -- the file still gets named the way you'd expect, but it's still the wrong file).

2ManyDogs · 2012-09-01 19:21:02

I just downloaded the 08-04 iso with the torrent totsim3 linked, and it is identical to the iso I downloaded a few days ago (and used to install using pacstrap) . The md5sums match. I will put it on a USB stick and see if it has pacstrap on it.

(edit) i put it on a USB stick and booted from it. /arch/setup is not found. pacstrap is. I don't know what is wrong with the image totsim3 downloaded.

totsim3, when you boot the image you downloaded, what do these commands return:

uname -a
which pacstrap

Last edited by 2ManyDogs (2012-09-01 19:27:48)

totsim3 · 2012-09-01 19:55:30

Well thats just weird.

uname -a gives:
Linux archiso 3.0-ARCH

wich gives.. well there is no pacstrap.

archlinux.org -> download -> the file thats under "BitTorrent Download (recommended)"

Well, hope im the only one that got the wrong file.

2ManyDogs · 2012-09-01 19:58:31

that is weird. try downloading it again, using the torrent you posted. what torrent client are you using?

mhertz · 2012-09-02 12:04:17

Either he's trolling or unable to follow basic instructions, and hence shouldn't be using arch in the first place!

Even though the swedish wiki isn't updated, then the news section has clearly stated that we've changed to "manual" install with helper scripts and that AIF is gone!

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