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#1 2012-10-11 11:58:14

yossarianuk
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[SOLVED]guides(apart from wiki) which explains howto install on UEFI ?

Hi.

Since Arch has moved to the new install framework I haven't been able to install it in UEFI (non UEFI mode is fine...)

The only way I have got a boot-able system with UEFI is to use the archboot .iso - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Archboot

I have to say just having a install .txt file isn't brilliant, for a start it refers to a partitioning section that should be a HTML link (but itsn't in the .txt file included) and following the instructions at the guide

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Installation_Guide

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Un … _Interface

Miss vital parts out

I have installed

pacstrap /mnt grub-efi-x86_64

And I have chrooted (i also had to mount /proc /dev /sys to the chroot or I couldn't modprobe efivars), I have tried installing rEFInd and used efibootmgr to add an entry - it doesn't boot...

If I use the archboot disk it works fine, I think its to do with the grub install.

Are there any *complete* guides for UEFI install - I don't really fancy using the archboot as its a few months old now.

Any help would be welcomed.

Last edited by yossarianuk (2012-10-15 20:30:09)

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#2 2012-10-11 13:29:28

DSpider
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Re: [SOLVED]guides(apart from wiki) which explains howto install on UEFI ?

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/US … tion_Media

Note: For UEFI boot, create a bootable USB stick by following these instructions.

Then:

Note: dd'ing the ISO (isohybrid method) to the USB drive will not work for UEFI boot.

Also:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/US … _USB_drive


https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Be … _UEFI_mode
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Be … therboards


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#3 2012-10-11 16:51:39

bsilbaugh
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Re: [SOLVED]guides(apart from wiki) which explains howto install on UEFI ?

yossarianuk wrote:

Since Arch has moved to the new install framework I haven't been able to install it in UEFI (non UEFI mode is fine...)

The only way I have got a boot-able system with UEFI is to use the archboot .iso - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Archboot

So, are you having issues using the install medium (live CD, USB, etc), or are you having trouble getting a version of Arch installed on your hard disk to boot using UEFI?

yossarianuk wrote:

I have to say just having a install .txt file isn't brilliant, for a start it refers to a partitioning section that should be a HTML link (but itsn't in the .txt file included) and following the instructions at the guide

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Installation_Guide

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Un … _Interface

Miss vital parts out

You may want to try phrasing your criticisms in a more constructive, respectful, manner: 1) you are getting this service for free; 2) saying "miss vital parts out" does not provide any clear guidance has to what is actually missing. Better yet, revise the documentation yourself and share it with community.

yossarianuk wrote:

Are there any *complete* guides for UEFI install - I don't really fancy using the archboot as its a few months old now.

Did you read the Beginners Guide? Last time I checked, it appeared to correctly outline the steps needed for UEFI boot. Did you read the rEFInd documentation? This is very well written. Both of these documents, together with the wiki articles you mentioned, were sufficient for me to figure out how to setup Arch to boot on my MacBook.

Lastly, since you're having boot issues, it would be extremely useful to know what kind of machine you're trying to boot Arch on. For example, if you're using a Mac, then you definitely don't want to be using efibootmgr to register your bootmanager or bootloader with the firmware.


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#4 2012-10-15 21:00:27

yossarianuk
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Re: [SOLVED]guides(apart from wiki) which explains howto install on UEFI ?

Hi

Firstly sorry for the tone of my original post.  I was just annoyed how much hassle installation is now without the installer when it used to be so easy... not that the standard installer had UEFI support anyway...  I do understand why having a largely unmaintained installer is a bad idea though and understand why it was removed...

My original issue was the bootloader (I made the USB stick, etc fine)  I have managed to install it now in UEFI - thanks.

The key was ignoring the existence of -> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Installation_Guide

And use the Beginners' Guide as bsilbaugh mentioned - thank you bsilbaugh  -> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners%27_Guide

And her in is the issue.... the info contained on the iso - i.e the Installation_Guide is incomplete, in fact that should be completely replaced with the Beginners Guide and also the partitioning page , and the UEFI page

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners%27_Guide
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Partitioning
https://wiki.archlinux.org/.../Unified_ … _Interface
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/UEFI_Bootloaders

- they should be included as they will be small in size (just .txt files) and that gives the user enough info to install via UEFI without having to browse via links, etc

My original error was not modprobing efivars *before* chrooting... (then I tried mounting /dev /sys /proc to the chroot manually - it didn't work....) - that info wasn't on the install guide but was on the Beginners Guide.

I am not a newbie though, I have been using Arch for several years as my main OS @ home and @ work, I am also the maintainer  for the nvidia-rt AUR package

http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=12132

Just new @UEFI and the new arch install way.

I used gentoo for a year or so (before finding Arch) also.

Anyway cheers - i'm back up and running and that's the main thing - SystemD threw me also, but it seems pretty damn nice,.

Once again sorry for my tone, I appreciate all who work in the opensource world.

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#5 2012-10-15 21:19:11

2ManyDogs
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Registered: 2012-01-15
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Re: [SOLVED]guides(apart from wiki) which explains howto install on UEFI ?

yossarianuk wrote:

And her in is the issue.... the info contained on the iso - i.e the Installation_Guide is incomplete, in fact that should be completely replaced with the Beginners Guide and also the partitioning page , and the UEFI page

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=147507

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#6 2012-10-16 10:12:23

yossarianuk
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Registered: 2007-05-02
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Re: [SOLVED]guides(apart from wiki) which explains howto install on UEFI ?

Well I guess you can say I vote for that guy's suggestions....

My post can be an example case as to why its a good idea.

So happy i'm back in Arch, not sure if it the latest kernel (3.6.2) but KDE seems lightning fast on Arch now.

Cheers

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