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#1 2012-10-20 10:25:23

Harey
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[SOLVED] gnome update killed sound on kde 4.9.2 system

the recent gnome-updates in testing seem to have broken my sound on kde 4.9.2. My sound system relied on pulseaudio, phonon-gstreeamer and gstreamer0.10. Since the update there ist only a 'dummy' entry in my soundmixer and no sound anymore. Did anybody experience the same?

Edit: Just downgraded with pacman -Syuu with all testing repos disabled. Sound is there again. This IS an update problem.

Harvey

Last edited by Harey (2012-11-08 08:40:19)


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#2 2012-10-20 11:14:41

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Re: [SOLVED] gnome update killed sound on kde 4.9.2 system

Can you post a list of packages you upgraded to/downgraded from testing?


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#3 2012-10-20 11:23:06

Harey
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Re: [SOLVED] gnome update killed sound on kde 4.9.2 system

dolby wrote:

Can you post a list of packages you upgraded to/downgraded from testing?

I deleted pacman.log after a lot of testing, removing and up- and downgrading because it was quite unreadable at that time.
But if I enable the testing repos again, pacman -Syu wants to upgrade these packages:

Pakete (40): at-spi2-atk-2.6.1-1  at-spi2-core-2.6.1-1  atk-2.6.0-1  cairo-1.12.4-1  clementine-1.1.0rc1-1  colord-0.1.23-1  dconf-0.14.0-1       
             device-mapper-2.02.98-1  e2fsprogs-1.42.6-1  farstream-0.2.1-1  gdk-pixbuf2-2.26.4-1  glib-networking-2.34.0-1  glib2-2.34.1-1       
             glibmm-2.33.14-1  gnome-icon-theme-3.6.0-1  gnome-icon-theme-symbolic-3.6.0-1  gsettings-desktop-schemas-3.6.0-1  gtk3-3.6.1-1       
             gvfs-1.14.0-1  iproute2-3.6.0-2  iptables-1.4.16.2-1  iputils-20121011-1  kdebase-workspace-4.9.2-5  libcroco-0.6.7-1                 
             libgnome-keyring-3.6.0-1  libnice-0.1.3-1  librsvg-2.36.4-1  libsoup-2.40.1-1  libsoup-gnome-2.40.1-1  libxklavier-5.3-1             
             lvm2-2.02.98-1  nvidia-304.60-1  nvidia-ck-corex-304.60-1  nvidia-utils-304.60-1  pango-1.32.1-1  polkit-0.107-4                     
             telepathy-farstream-0.6.0-1  telepathy-glib-0.20.0-1  tzdata-2012g-1  udisks2-1.99.0-1   

Maybe this helps.

Harvey


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#4 2012-10-20 11:28:43

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Re: [SOLVED] gnome update killed sound on kde 4.9.2 system

Your problem is most likely consolekit removal. Did you try rebooting the system?

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#5 2012-10-20 11:51:25

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Re: [SOLVED] gnome update killed sound on kde 4.9.2 system

dolby wrote:

Your problem is most likely consolekit removal. Did you try to reboot the system?

Yes, reboot does not work (hey, we're not on windows wink)
And I have consolekit installed:

root@obelix /home/harvey # pacman -Qs consolekit
local/consolekit 0.4.6-4
    A framework for defining and tracking users, login sessions, and seats

Or do you mean it is removed from kde by the devs?

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#6 2012-10-20 12:15:18

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Re: [SOLVED] gnome update killed sound on kde 4.9.2 system

I mean its not used.


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#7 2012-10-20 18:08:59

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Re: [SOLVED] gnome update killed sound on kde 4.9.2 system

I don't get it. Do you mean I have to switch to systemd to get my sound back? hmm


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#8 2012-10-20 21:03:53

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Re: [SOLVED] gnome update killed sound on kde 4.9.2 system

Do you use "startx" or KDM for launching KDE ?

I notice potential problems if you use startx and systemd, if you type "startx" without options then KDE  may not be able to  access to the sound card,

if you use systemd the good syntax is "startx -- vt1" ( if you log with tty1 console ) and the .xinitrc file should not contain "ck-launch-session"

PolicyKit

Various desktop environment features and applications expect PolicyKit and to be active, and will produce errors if absent. A common error to notice is the inability to access shutdown or reboot prompts from desktop environment windows, and failure to mount USB devices, CD-ROMs etc. without root permissions. Most modern display managers will start PolicyKit automatically. When only using ~/.xinitrc with e.g. startx, you need to make sure that X starts on the same tty where you logged in.

Last edited by Potomac (2012-10-20 21:06:13)

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#9 2012-10-20 21:41:31

Harey
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Re: [SOLVED] gnome update killed sound on kde 4.9.2 system

Potomac wrote:

Do you use "startx" or KDM for launching KDE ?

KDM

I don't use systemd and wasn't planning to switch in the near future.

Harvey


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#10 2012-10-20 22:58:31

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Re: [SOLVED] gnome update killed sound on kde 4.9.2 system

If you used to rely on consolekit you have to now use systemd instead, as CK is being dropped from the repositories (and things that used to depend on it will be compiled without CK support).

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#11 2012-10-21 20:26:59

Harey
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Re: [SOLVED] gnome update killed sound on kde 4.9.2 system

Ok, this definitely is a mess. According to all your advices I switched to systemd by working through its wiki, removed consolekit and guess what? Still no sound. Apart from that I have no KDM login anymore and have to login from a console to start kde. I had to install xorg-xinitrc to get back to a graphical UI. Now my system takes longer to start, hangs forever with unmounting network filesystems at shutdown and pulseaudio still won't work.

I'm done for today. Going to bed, weeping myself to sleep.
sad sad sad

Harvey


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#12 2012-10-22 14:59:46

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Re: [SOLVED] gnome update killed sound on kde 4.9.2 system

Is your username a member of the "audio" group? I remember having a similar sound problem when switching to systemd with pulseaudio and KDE. Turns out my username wasn't a member of the "audio" group...adding my username fixed it.

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#13 2012-10-23 07:44:48

Harey
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Re: [SOLVED] gnome update killed sound on kde 4.9.2 system

Thanks for your advice but I'm away from my desktop for a week. Can't test this by now and will report back later.

Meanwhile I changed my laptop's setup to work with systemd which was a lot smoother, maybe because of intel hardware. Only the login using the console is a topic there also. I can (and will) not confront my users on the network I administer with a pure text login. So I hope this will get sorted out sooner or later, at least before this goes into core/community.
Edit: As of todays updates, my laptop works correctly.

Harvey

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#14 2012-11-08 08:39:09

Harey
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Re: [SOLVED] gnome update killed sound on kde 4.9.2 system

OK, better late than never...
my desktop sound now works out-of the box with systemd. No need to put your user into the audio group.
See here:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Sy … nformation
Marking this as solved.

Thanks for your contributions.

Harvey


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