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#76 2012-10-20 23:20:19

jbirdjavi
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Re: ctrl and fn keyboard shortcuts don't work after update

abstracity wrote:
trsk wrote:

Does anyone know what the upgrade

xorg-server (1.12.4-1 => 1.13.0-3)

changes? Does it fix our issues?

Search the website: go to www.archlinux.org/packages, search for xorg-server, and go to View Changes.

Doesn't look like it has anything to do with hotkey support.  Looks like it fixed a mouse issue:  https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/31959

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#77 2012-10-21 19:42:16

Bastian
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Re: ctrl and fn keyboard shortcuts don't work after update

anarsoul's patch also fixed the issue for me! I am also very glad it was so easy to install. Thanks a lot! What a shame that the Gnome developers doesn't maintain support for older versions of the Gnome DE though. hmm

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#78 2012-10-22 06:17:25

gturtle
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Re: ctrl and fn keyboard shortcuts don't work after update

Guys, will this patch work with Cinnamon?

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#79 2012-10-22 07:41:10

hermes
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From: Lucca, Italy
Registered: 2010-05-19
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Re: ctrl and fn keyboard shortcuts don't work after update

I can confirm anarsoul's patch works for me too.
Maintainers should seriously consider to fix it downstream.


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#80 2012-10-22 07:46:22

anarsoul
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Re: ctrl and fn keyboard shortcuts don't work after update

gturtle wrote:

Guys, will this patch work with Cinnamon?

It should, cinnamon uses same gnome-settings-daemon

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#81 2012-10-22 08:21:47

gturtle
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Re: ctrl and fn keyboard shortcuts don't work after update

anarsoul wrote:
gturtle wrote:

Guys, will this patch work with Cinnamon?

It should, cinnamon uses same gnome-settings-daemon

Thank's! It works fine in Cinnamon too.

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#82 2012-10-22 17:02:33

moted
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Registered: 2010-06-25
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Re: ctrl and fn keyboard shortcuts don't work after update

anarsoul wrote:

Got it working! gsd-3.4.2 does not check for xi-2.2 after xi-2.0 check fails, here's source package:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/s1squ7nzk0845 … src.tar.gz

I can also confirm that the patch works.  Thanks again mate.

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#83 2012-10-23 06:30:44

andrgrau
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Re: ctrl and fn keyboard shortcuts don't work after update

moted wrote:

I can also confirm that the patch works.  Thanks again mate.

Same here! Thanks anarsoul!

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#84 2012-10-23 13:00:16

gmc2k2
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Re: ctrl and fn keyboard shortcuts don't work after update

anarsoul wrote:

Got it working! gsd-3.4.2 does not check for xi-2.2 after xi-2.0 check fails, here's source package:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/s1squ7nzk0845 … src.tar.gz

+1 Thanks for Your fix anarsoul, works sweet!

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#85 2012-10-24 10:23:39

curson
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Re: ctrl and fn keyboard shortcuts don't work after update

Okay, I might be asking a very stupid and RTFM question but: how do I install that package/patch?

pacman -U doesn't seem to work, and while I'm sure it's trivial, I never done it before and I'm a bit at a loss.

UPDATE: and I'm an idiot. I looked at the package for 20 minutes before realizing it was a matter of extracting and launching a 'makepkg' on it. Apologies for my post. Now everything works fine, thank you for the patch!

Last edited by curson (2012-10-24 10:34:29)

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#86 2012-10-24 11:44:45

RichardCain2
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Registered: 2012-04-23
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Re: ctrl and fn keyboard shortcuts don't work after update

anarsoul wrote:

Got it working! gsd-3.4.2 does not check for xi-2.2 after xi-2.0 check fails, here's source package:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/s1squ7nzk0845 … src.tar.gz

Working great on Cinnamon.  Thanks, Anarsoul!

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#87 2012-10-24 13:23:25

pezz
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From: Geelong, Australia
Registered: 2010-05-23
Posts: 49

Re: ctrl and fn keyboard shortcuts don't work after update

Can I just say - I like the "Arch Way".

I like the philosophy, and how it works in general.

But to just go "let's leave something really usable like media keys totally broken after our pushing forward with xorg etc updates" shits me.

Thanks to Anarsoul, I can remove xorg-server, xorg-server-common, xf86-input-evdev and xf86-input-synaptics from IgnorePkg in pacman.conf and have a clean (ignoring the gsd patch), up-to-date system again with my god-damn media keys working again.

Such a trivial patch, yet unless you don't care about it working, meh, wait for GNOME 3.6 - ridiculous.

Anyway, I added Anarsoul's package to the AUR with some hard provides / conflicts so you'll know when to get rid of it when GNOME 3.6 finally hits stable.

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=63903

or

yaourt -S gnome-settings-daemon-media-key-fix

Cheers.

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#88 2012-10-24 13:34:38

anarsoul
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Re: ctrl and fn keyboard shortcuts don't work after update

pezz wrote:

Can I just say - I like the "Arch Way".

I like the philosophy, and how it works in general.

But to just go "let's leave something really usable like media keys totally broken after our pushing forward with xorg etc updates" shits me.

Yep, usually I don't blame devs/maintainers for some decision, but in this case maintainers just do not respect users. Broken global hotkeys (not only media!)
for almost three weeks without a fix! Keeping packages from stable repos in _working_ state is as important as working on testing stuff, and I'm
very surprised that gnome package maintainers from ArchLinux do not understand this simple point.

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#89 2012-10-24 13:42:08

pezz
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From: Geelong, Australia
Registered: 2010-05-23
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Re: ctrl and fn keyboard shortcuts don't work after update

Ah, I didn't realise it was more than media keys broken (thread title, hello heh), otherwise I would've named the package more appropriately.

I use media keys all the time though, so that's how I noticed.

Last edited by pezz (2012-10-24 13:43:41)

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#90 2012-10-24 14:58:09

hoschi
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Re: ctrl and fn keyboard shortcuts don't work after update

https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/32033

Vote here, if you want a updated package via pacman. It simply shows the maintainers, what the community wants/needs.
Archlinux is generally right about "not self patching" things, which must be fixed upstream. But in this case, we will see no help by GNOME. Because, well, its GNOME.

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#91 2012-10-24 15:03:39

anarsoul
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Re: ctrl and fn keyboard shortcuts don't work after update

hoschi wrote:

https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/32033

Vote here, if you want a updated package via pacman. It simply shows the maintainers, what the community wants/needs.
Archlinux is generally right about "not self patching" things, which must be fixed upstream. But in this case, we will see no help by GNOME. Because, well, its GNOME.

It's fixed in upstream git repo in gnome-3.4 branch, but tarball with fix was never released

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#92 2012-10-24 15:04:29

pezz
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From: Geelong, Australia
Registered: 2010-05-23
Posts: 49

Re: ctrl and fn keyboard shortcuts don't work after update

Ok, I added my vote.

But I reckon I've seen at least two other bugs closed as won't fix (because nobody now cares about GNOME 3.4, even though it's what we're all using, and 3.6 is coming).

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#93 2012-10-25 01:16:55

Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl
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Registered: 2010-07-09
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Re: ctrl and fn keyboard shortcuts don't work after update

pezz wrote:

Ah, I didn't realise it was more than media keys broken (thread title, hello heh), otherwise I would've named the package more appropriately.

The name of the gnome-setting-daemon plugin that implement all those shortcuts (including, by example, the PrintScreen key) is called media-keys, so your name is ok.
Well, at least all the shortcuts are stored in dconf folder /org/gnome/settings-daemon/plugins/media-keys.

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#94 2012-10-25 22:54:02

king.flasher.dave
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Re: ctrl and fn keyboard shortcuts don't work after update

Also using the AUR fix now. No media keys is damn annoying, whatever the "Arch way" is wink


Speak when you are angry and you will make the best speech you'll ever regret.

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#95 2012-10-26 16:39:59

Aiacos
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Registered: 2012-08-23
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Re: ctrl and fn keyboard shortcuts don't work after update

RichardCain2 wrote:
anarsoul wrote:

Got it working! gsd-3.4.2 does not check for xi-2.2 after xi-2.0 check fails, here's source package:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/s1squ7nzk0845 … src.tar.gz

Working great on Cinnamon.  Thanks, Anarsoul!

+1. Thank you so much for helping!

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#96 2012-10-31 01:26:40

rkwurth
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Registered: 2012-10-31
Posts: 18

Re: ctrl and fn keyboard shortcuts don't work after update

Thanks for the fix!
Now that 3.6 is out, I had to manually remove this package for gnome to work.

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#97 2012-10-31 09:37:57

curson
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Registered: 2010-12-03
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Re: ctrl and fn keyboard shortcuts don't work after update

Does the update to Gnome 3.6 fixes this issue without the need for the patched gnome-settings-daemon package, then?

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#98 2012-10-31 09:42:40

ijanos
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From: Budapest, Hungary
Registered: 2008-03-30
Posts: 434

Re: ctrl and fn keyboard shortcuts don't work after update

curson wrote:

Does the update to Gnome 3.6 fixes this issue without the need for the patched gnome-settings-daemon package, then?

Yes.

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#99 2012-10-31 09:46:13

pezz
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From: Geelong, Australia
Registered: 2010-05-23
Posts: 49

Re: ctrl and fn keyboard shortcuts don't work after update

Just:

pacman -S gnome-settings-daemon

Replace the AUR / anarsoul's version with the old one, then upgrade to GNOME 3.6

I'm going to mail the AUR list and get my package removed, it's no longer needed.

Last edited by pezz (2012-10-31 09:46:45)

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#100 2012-10-31 09:50:10

ijanos
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From: Budapest, Hungary
Registered: 2008-03-30
Posts: 434

Re: ctrl and fn keyboard shortcuts don't work after update

pezz wrote:

Just:

pacman -S gnome-settings-daemon

Replace the AUR / anarsoul's version with the old one, then upgrade to GNOME 3.6

I'm going to mail the AUR list and get my package removed, it's no longer needed.

I don't know what you guys are doing, the patched settings daemon's version was 3.4.2 the new one is 3.6.1, pacman upgraded it without any hassle.

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