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#4476 2012-10-25 18:49:40

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

I'm still on the legacy h234k drivers, and so haven't been following this thread for a while (and don't particularly feel like wading through 20 -30 pages of miscellaneous problems to find the odd tidbit of generic information), so thought I'd just ask the question outright.

If I upgrade to a HD6670 card, and so rejoin the main catalyst drivers, are there any real gotchas waiting for me?


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#4477 2012-10-25 18:51:48

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Toost Inc. wrote:
Vi0l0 wrote:

Edit2: just curious: will it work for you on other kernel, like linux-lts?

Yes! linux-lts does work without having to reload the module. Sorry it took a while, I had to install LTS first wink.

Good, so probably there's something with 3.6.3 kernel...
Maybe related: Citing h-online:

The developers are still working to pinpoint the exact problem and it might actually involve more kernel components than just the ext4 drivers. In any case, it has become clear that the bug needs a very specific configuration to surface and is unlikely to affect most users.

Still:

Vi0L0 wrote:

what will this cmd return?:

modinfo fglrx | grep verma

Does it return something like:

vermagic:       3.6.3-1-ARCH SMP preempt mod_unload modversions

when on 3.6.3?
EDIT: aah sorry! you answered, and i missed it! nevermind! smile

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#4478 2012-10-25 18:56:00

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

No problem, I realize now that it was kind of hidden between those two quotes there.

Well that's sort of good news, I think I can manage with entering a few commands before starting up. Thanks a lot for the help though!


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#4479 2012-10-25 19:20:10

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

@Vi0L0: right I try to compil just after the update but it's impossible because linux-headers 3.6.2 is removed (pc runs under linux 3.6.2). After reboot, gnome-shell start under fallback. Then I can compile. Normally after modprobe fglrx and reconnect my user, it's worked. This time gdm never started. After reboot too.

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#4480 2012-10-25 19:24:14

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

I tested the 12.11 drivers... And it's totally a mess. Native programms run fine, but wine programms make the system hangs all the time... I tried to play Guild Wars 2 and League of Legends.. Both games are crashing just after they loaded.I
will try the 12.10 ones.

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#4481 2012-10-25 19:57:11

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

I just installed 12.11 from [community] and so far it runs properly. However, I do have the watermark. Gonna see if I can remove this smile

EDIT: Steps to remove watermark;

1. Get driver package:

wget http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/amd-driver-installer-catalyst-12.10-x86.x86_64.zip

Extract the zip file.
2. Make executable:

$ chmod +x amd-driver-installer-catalyst-12.10-x86.x86_64.run 

3. Extract signature:

$ grep -a signature= amd-driver-installer-catalyst-12.10-x86.x86_64.run 

This outputs a signature, like this:

signature="b707d1012f4412b1c0f865b95bee38e0:8e29e1311d692383f0c1578136c309d48f32e6326c6953e589d85d8b6edb0ad0:**********************************************************************************************************"

(Yea I blanked some, don't know if it's supposed to be private tongue)
4. (Optional backup and) remove /etc/ati/signature:

# cp /etc/ati/signature /home/<user>/signature.bak
# rm /etc/ati/signature
# echo "<your signature>" >> /etc/ati/signature

5. Now the /etc/ati/control file:

$ ./amd-driver-installer-catalyst-12.10-x86.x86_64.run --extract driver

6. Move it into place:

# cp driver/common/etc/ati/control /etc/ati/

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#4482 2012-10-25 20:27:08

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

pierrebe wrote:

@Vi0L0: right I try to compil just after the update but it's impossible because linux-headers 3.6.2 is removed (pc runs under linux 3.6.2). After reboot, gnome-shell start under fallback. Then I can compile. Normally after modprobe fglrx and reconnect my user, it's worked. This time gdm never started. After reboot too.

Looks like you have got same problem as Toost Inc.

Can someone with same problem test 12.11 from [community-testing]? Maybe dkms will make a difference. you don't actually need to join [testing], simple direct download and pacman -U file.pkg should work

nob.dir wrote:

I tested the 12.11 drivers... And it's totally a mess. Native programms run fine, but wine programms make the system hangs all the time... I tried to play Guild Wars 2 and League of Legends.. Both games are crashing just after they loaded.I
will try the 12.10 ones.

Hah, so it's looking as often with catalyst - for someone it's better - for someone it's not working... hmm

Unia wrote:

I just installed 12.11 from [community] and so far it runs properly. However, I do have the watermark. Gonna see if I can remove this smile

another strange thing, strange day is today ;P... i'm also using same signature from 12.9 (same is lordheavy), but it's working here, imho this magick should also work on [community] package

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#4483 2012-10-25 22:51:04

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

sup, got a problem with starting xorg (got segfault), looks like a https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 7#p1148997, but running on intel graphics goes ok.

[   884.579] (II) fglrx(0): pEnt->device->identifier=0xdf16a0
[   884.580] (II) intel(1): pEnt->device->identifier=(nil)
[   884.581] (EE) Screen 1 deleted because of no matching config section.
[   884.581] (EE) 
[   884.581] (EE) Backtrace:
[   884.581] (EE) 0: /usr/bin/X (xorg_backtrace+0x36) [0x58a006]
[   884.581] (EE) 1: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x18de59) [0x58de59]
[   884.581] (EE) 2: /usr/lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x7face8a9b000+0xf170) [0x7face8aaa170]
[   884.581] (EE) 3: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so (0x7face55ab000+0x151f0) [0x7face55c01f0]
[   884.581] (EE) 4: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so (0x7face55ab000+0x164d5) [0x7face55c14d5]
[   884.581] (EE) 5: /usr/bin/X (xf86DeleteScreen+0x84) [0x480a64]
[   884.582] (EE) 6: /usr/bin/X (xf86BusConfig+0x216) [0x46be86]
[   884.582] (EE) 7: /usr/bin/X (InitOutput+0x956) [0x479bf6]
[   884.582] (EE) 8: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x26746) [0x426746]
[   884.582] (EE) 9: /usr/lib/libc.so.6 (__libc_start_main+0xf5) [0x7face773a725]
[   884.582] (EE) 10: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x26c6d) [0x426c6d]
[   884.582] (EE) 
[   884.582] (EE) Segmentation fault at address 0x0
[   884.582] 
[jersey@jersey-HP ~]$ lspci | grep -i vga
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Whistler XT [AMD Radeon HD 6700M Series]
[jersey@jersey-HP ~]$ uname -a
Linux jersey-HP 3.6.3-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Oct 22 10:23:56 CEST 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[jersey@jersey-HP ~]$ pacman -Qs catalyst
local/catalyst-3.6-ARCH 12.11-1
    AMD/ATI Catalyst drivers. fglrx kernel module for 3.6.3-1-ARCH kernel
local/catalyst-generator 12.11-1
    AMD/ATI drivers. Generator of catalyst-{kernver} packages with fglrx module
    inside
local/catalyst-utils-pxp 12.11-1
    AMD/ATI Catalyst drivers utilities and libraries with OpenCL implementation
    and testing powerXpress support. Radeons HD 2 3 4 xxx ARE NOT SUPPORTED
local/lib32-catalyst-utils-pxp 12.11-1 (lib32)
    AMD/ATI catalyst driver utilities and libraries with testing powerXpress
    support. (32-bit)
[jersey@jersey-HP ~]$ pacman -Qs xf86-video-intel
local/xf86-video-intel 2.20.9-2 (xorg-drivers xorg)
[jersey@jersey-HP ~]$ pacman -Qs xorg-server
local/xorg-server 1.13.0-3 (xorg)
    Xorg X server
local/xorg-server-utils 7.6-3
    Transition package depending on xorg server utilities

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#4484 2012-10-26 07:38:08

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

^^ Solution suggested by reed1:

reed1 wrote:

Anyone here getting trouble using catalyst-total-pxp : try to downgrade xf86-video-intel to version 2.20.2-2 and use "UXA" accleration on xorg intel configuration. Hope it helps smile

isn't helping?

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#4485 2012-10-26 08:15:35

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

nob.dir wrote:

I tested the 12.11 drivers... And it's totally a mess. Native programms run fine, but wine programms make the system hangs all the time... I tried to play Guild Wars 2 and League of Legends.. Both games are crashing just after they loaded.I
will try the 12.10 ones.

Oh, this sounds promising ;D

Looks like the issues I noticed with 12.9b - will test 12.11b and report back!


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#4486 2012-10-26 11:10:59

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Vi0L0 wrote:

^^ Solution suggested by reed1:

reed1 wrote:

Anyone here getting trouble using catalyst-total-pxp : try to downgrade xf86-video-intel to version 2.20.2-2 and use "UXA" accleration on xorg intel configuration. Hope it helps smile

isn't helping?

that version uses 1.12 xorg, where i can find a driver for it?

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#4487 2012-10-26 11:30:33

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

ungaminga wrote:
Vi0L0 wrote:

^^ Solution suggested by reed1:

reed1 wrote:

Anyone here getting trouble using catalyst-total-pxp : try to downgrade xf86-video-intel to version 2.20.2-2 and use "UXA" accleration on xorg intel configuration. Hope it helps smile

isn't helping?

that version uses 1.12 xorg, where i can find a driver for it?

Use [xorg112] repo

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#4488 2012-10-26 11:47:15

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Vi0L0 wrote:

Finnaly did it with 12.11 catalyst, 1.12 xorg and 2.20.2-2 intel. Having problem with high delay from me to screen on amd. Any suggestions?

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#4489 2012-10-26 13:15:47

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

yaourt -R catalyst-hook
yaourt -S --force catalyst-test
sudo aticonfig --initial

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#4490 2012-10-26 13:22:59

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

her999 wrote:
yaourt -R catalyst-hook
yaourt -S --force catalyst-test
sudo aticonfig --initial

And with that you want to say...?


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#4491 2012-10-26 15:24:05

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Is there a way to run proprietary AMD driver only for OpenCL alongside intel-dri with hybrid graphics? Currently I have installed open intel and ati drivers with vgaswitcheroo to turn off discrete gpu at boot. However, I'd like to be able to use the discrete gpu for opencl apps (and power it off when not needed to save power). Is this possible? I've tried to install amdstream and catalyst, but it conflicts with intel-dri (requires certain libgl version). Forcing the install broke the system (blank screen when starting X, can switch to tty but screen remains black; had to type cmds blindly). Thanks.

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#4492 2012-10-26 16:01:32

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Tested 12.10, and it runs faaaaar better with Wine games big_smile .

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#4493 2012-10-26 17:27:16

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

saironiq wrote:

Is there a way to run proprietary AMD driver only for OpenCL alongside intel-dri with hybrid graphics? Currently I have installed open intel and ati drivers with vgaswitcheroo to turn off discrete gpu at boot. However, I'd like to be able to use the discrete gpu for opencl apps (and power it off when not needed to save power). Is this possible? I've tried to install amdstream and catalyst, but it conflicts with intel-dri (requires certain libgl version). Forcing the install broke the system (blank screen when starting X, can switch to tty but screen remains black; had to type cmds blindly). Thanks.

Use catalyst-total-pxp @ AUR or catalyst-utils-pxp (eventually with lib32-catalyst-utils-pxp) @ [catalyst] repo.

To switch to intel read our latest talk with ungaminga.

IIRC using one gpu to render X while other to work on opencl is hard to achieve with powerXpress (if not possible at all, though i'm no expert here), but whith -pxp you will be at least able to perform a fast switch between gpus.

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#4494 2012-10-26 17:34:10

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

nob.dir wrote:

Tested 12.10, and it runs faaaaar better with Wine games big_smile .

12.10 was removed from community, so i'm now thinking about [catalyst-12.10] repo for those gamers who's got problems with 12.11. Anybody interested?

Edit: ooops! sorry for double posting! hmm

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#4495 2012-10-26 21:38:01

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Vi0L0 wrote:
nob.dir wrote:

Tested 12.10, and it runs faaaaar better with Wine games big_smile .

12.10 was removed from community, so i'm now thinking about [catalyst-12.10] repo for those gamers who's got problems with 12.11. Anybody interested?

Edit: ooops! sorry for double posting! hmm

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#4496 2012-10-26 21:43:41

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Naturally me ^^ I think it would be nice to have some rollback on catalyst drivers, because there are soooo much regressions sometimes...

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#4497 2012-10-26 22:05:50

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note for pxp users: there are need to have libgl and lib32-libgl v8.0.4 if u are using xf86-video-intel 2.20.2-2. otherwise u'll have no dri.

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#4498 2012-10-27 07:17:44

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

I think, I found the problem. For some reason catalyst-hook was updated, but catalyst-utils stayed at 12.9 (either an old AUR version or community, don't know exactly). Seems like a yaourt problem. Will update catalyst-utils to 12.11 manually and report back.

edit: Yep, updating catalyst-utils solved the problem. smile

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#4499 2012-10-27 10:25:02

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

PhotonX wrote:

I think, I found the problem. For some reason catalyst-hook was updated, but catalyst-utils stayed at 12.9 (either an old AUR version or community, don't know exactly). Seems like a yaourt problem. Will update catalyst-utils to 12.11 manually and report back.

edit: Yep, updating catalyst-utils solved the problem. smile

I had the same f****g problem. I barely slept. :-)
This morning, I had to update to catalyst-utils-pxp, the legacy catalyst-utils was not updated to 12.11. Bummer. It took the night to figure out.
*edit* : my mistake, it's updated but not found. May have to do with yaourt. But pacman cannot find it either...

If you add to this that AUR in maintenance at the very same time, and a very odd problem ( I am not able to boot on any usb key anymore) . My HP laptop freezes all the time at one point (puppy, arch).
Do you think any arch update can have this consequence? Refraining the laptop from ending an usb boot ??

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#4500 2012-10-27 10:50:47

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

ivanoff wrote:

If you add to this that AUR in maintenance at the very same time, and a very odd problem ( I am not able to boot on any usb key anymore) . My HP laptop freezes all the time at one point (puppy, arch).
Do you think any arch update can have this consequence? Refraining the laptop from ending an usb boot ??

I don't think that anything besides a hardware failure can prevent you to boot from usb... certainly not some mess with the resident OS.

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