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#1 2004-01-05 21:45:34

kritoke
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KDE applications and Namcap and Mesa Dependency

For some odd reason, when running namcap on a kde package,  it seems to always want mesa as a dependency.  Even running it on an official arch package, like kdepim, for instance, it thinks that the mesa dependency is missing.  Anyone know if it could be my system or indeed a bug with namcap itself.

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#2 2004-01-05 23:54:17

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Re: KDE applications and Namcap and Mesa Dependency

very interesting ...

the only thing i can imagine in kde that is actually needing mesa is running the kde screensavers, but they are not in kdepim (or should not be wink )


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#3 2004-01-06 01:44:11

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Re: KDE applications and Namcap and Mesa Dependency

I think maybe someone else show attempt to run namcap on their kdepim package or something similar to see if its just my screwy system being its normal self.

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#4 2004-01-06 06:31:18

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Re: KDE applications and Namcap and Mesa Dependency

sorry, i forgot to post the thing i found out ..

you are absolute right with your discovery:

[damir@Asteraceae klogoturtle]$ namcap klogoturtle-0.6-1.pkg.tar.gz
klogoturtle E: Dependency detected and not included (mesa)
[damir@Asteraceae klogoturtle]$

klogoturtle is a small funny tool to "turtle" graphics (tell go right, go left and draw a dot where you've been, see http://klogoturtle.sourceforge.net/ for more info ); it do not need mesa at all, but as you say, as it is a kde related package, namcap says mesa is needed

sorry that i do not run over kdepim, but this takes hours to build wink


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#5 2004-01-06 07:01:13

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Re: KDE applications and Namcap and Mesa Dependency

Two things:

1. Namcap is only good to run on the system you built the package with.  Otherwise it will have trouble finding all of the packages that the binaries are linked to.

2. The current mesa package includes X libraries in it.  Most prominently /usr/lib/libGL.so.  If a kde package links to any of the X libraries (which I would assume it does...) then you will see something weird there.


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#6 2004-01-06 13:08:30

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Re: KDE applications and Namcap and Mesa Dependency

Xentac wrote:

2. The current mesa package includes X libraries in it.  Most prominently /usr/lib/libGL.so.  If a kde package links to any of the X libraries (which I would assume it does...) then you will see something weird there.

yes, i remember forcing upgrade without thinking :oops: ...
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … light=mesa

are  /usr/lib/libGL.so et al. mesa or xfree86 ?

or better asked (because now it's both) .--- will these libs be in future in mesa or xfree86?


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#7 2004-01-06 15:48:18

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Re: KDE applications and Namcap and Mesa Dependency

My money's on xfree86.


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#8 2004-01-10 19:35:27

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Re: KDE applications and Namcap and Mesa Dependency

some of the conflicting files come from commercial drivers as well (ie nvidia's drivers)

moral of this story is do not rely on namcap as the authority for depend and package building. it is a very good assistant but is not meant as a replacement for research.


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#9 2004-01-10 20:58:12

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Re: KDE applications and Namcap and Mesa Dependency

Yes but the question is who owns libGL?  Mesa 5.1-2 no longer conflicts.


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