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#1 2012-11-19 04:28:24

ruimarto
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Installing Cinnamon DE

So... Arch with XFCE looks to perform much better than Xubuntu/Lubuntu or Voyager on my system, therefore I'd like to try Cinnamon DE. My system is a Asus AT5ION-T with 4GB DDR3. But AUR and makepkg are not cooperating with me. Lots of errors stating that dependencies are missing and that "makepkg -s" is not capable of downloading.

I've tried many tutorials and wikis, I tried yaourt, and still no success. Any tips?

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#2 2012-11-19 05:41:43

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Re: Installing Cinnamon DE

need more info , like what errors and what packages are missing?
Do you have the base-devel  group installed?


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#3 2012-11-19 06:20:46

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Re: Installing Cinnamon DE

"yaourt -S cinnamon " works fine for me.

Last edited by Perfect Gentleman (2012-11-19 06:21:02)

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#4 2012-11-19 06:21:14

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Re: Installing Cinnamon DE

need more info , like what errors and what packages are missing?
Do you have the base-devel  group installed?


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#5 2012-11-19 06:33:41

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Re: Installing Cinnamon DE

It's kind of late here, but tomorrow I'll post more details. About the base-devel, yes, it's installed. Missing packages like gnome-something and others.

Last edited by ruimarto (2012-11-22 03:17:18)

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#6 2012-11-19 06:50:01

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Re: Installing Cinnamon DE

ruimarto wrote:

It's kind of late here, but tomorrow I'll post more details. About the base-devel, yes, it's installed. Missing packages like gnome-menu2 and such.

yaourt automatically install missing dependencies

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#7 2012-11-19 11:17:28

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Re: Installing Cinnamon DE

yaourt -S cinnamon

works fine for me and it downloads all dependencies including gnome-menus2.

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#8 2012-11-19 11:45:47

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Re: Installing Cinnamon DE

I'm guessing you haven't dont an '-Syu' in a while.  But guesses are the best you'll get until you can provide actual error messages.


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#9 2012-11-19 16:31:54

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Re: Installing Cinnamon DE

I Syu'd the f**** out of pacman and yaourt but I still get lots of prompts like this:

muffin-wm 1.1.2-1
( Unsupported package: Potentially dangerous ! )
==> Edit muffin-wm.install ? [Y/n] ("A" to abort)
==> ---------------------------------------------
==> n

==> Continue building muffin-wm ? [Y/n]
==> -----------------------------------
==>


Is this normal?

Last edited by ruimarto (2012-11-19 16:33:33)

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#10 2012-11-19 16:34:49

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Re: Installing Cinnamon DE

Yes...

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#11 2012-11-19 16:41:19

ruimarto
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Re: Installing Cinnamon DE

Ops... Sry then. It's not on the Wiki. lol Thank you for your patience. Been using Ubuntu for years, not used to this kind of stuff.

Looks like it's done. I'm at work using ssh, so I can't check right now, but I'll report asap. smile Many thanks

Last edited by ruimarto (2012-11-19 16:44:12)

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#12 2012-11-19 16:44:16

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Re: Installing Cinnamon DE

ruimarto wrote:

I Syu'd the f**** out of pacman and yaourt but I still get lots of prompts like this:

muffin-wm 1.1.2-1
( Unsupported package: Potentially dangerous ! )
==> Edit muffin-wm.install ? [Y/n] ("A" to abort)
==> ---------------------------------------------
==> n

==> Continue building muffin-wm ? [Y/n]
==> -----------------------------------
==>


Is this normal?

No it's not normal. You should respond "Y" to viewing/editing the PKGBUILD and .install scripts.

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#13 2012-11-19 16:51:24

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Re: Installing Cinnamon DE

While I agree, I think this will just contribute to further confusion, not clarification.

The warning messages are completely normal (for yaourt).

Choosing to trust the AUR contributer to have a good PKGBUILD, and trusting yaourt to install it properly for you can be risky.  But if you wanted to know all the inner workings of what was happening, I doubt you'd use yaourt in the first place.


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#14 2012-11-19 23:16:28

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Re: Installing Cinnamon DE

There's a portuguese saying that goes like this "It would be like a donkey staring at a palace". Meaning that even if I'd said "Y" I'd be clueless about what to do with it. And being a former Ubuntu-family user, I'm used to have everything in packages.

And it works.. Kind of. sad Many menus don't respond, as in, I click and nothing happens. Start over or try to repair?

Sorry all these questions, but there isn't really a lot of documentation on Arch and Cinnamon.

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#15 2012-11-19 23:19:26

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Re: Installing Cinnamon DE

If you have specific issues with Cinnamon, you could always make a new thread in the Applications & Desktop Environments section.

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#16 2012-11-20 01:22:01

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Re: Installing Cinnamon DE

ruimarto wrote:

Lots of errors stating that dependencies are missing and that "makepkg -s" is not capable of downloading...

Really?

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#17 2012-11-20 23:26:13

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Re: Installing Cinnamon DE

ANOKNUSA I've read the wiki and when I said "lots of" I really mean lots of. I used gnome-menus2 as an example, but there where over 5 dependencies in that list, not just the two mentioned on the wiki.

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#18 2012-11-21 02:20:56

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Re: Installing Cinnamon DE

Cinnamon may have many dependencies; however, the only ones that come from the AUR are cinnamon itself and muffin-wm.

~ > packer -S cinnamon

Aur Targets    (2): muffin-wm cinnamon
Pacman Targets (24): accountsservice caribou clutter folks gconf gjs gnome-bluetooth gnome-common gnome-control-center gnome-doc-utils gnome-menus gnome-menus2 gnome-panel gnome-session gnome-settings-daemon gnome-themes-standard libcanberra libgnomekbd networkmanager python2-gconf python2-imaging python2-lxml telepathy-logger zenity

Proceed with installation? [Y/n] n
~ > packer -S muffin-wm

Aur Targets    (1): muffin-wm
Pacman Targets (5): clutter gconf gnome-doc-utils libcanberra zenity

Proceed with installation? [Y/n] n
~ >

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#19 2012-11-21 04:12:13

Perfect Gentleman
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Re: Installing Cinnamon DE

do not use "makepkg", use "yaourt"

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#20 2012-11-21 14:46:43

ANOKNUSA
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Re: Installing Cinnamon DE

Perfect Gentleman wrote:

do not use "makepkg", use "yaourt"

Bad piece of advice.  If you don't understand how makepkg functions, don't further confuse things by using yaourt.  Yaourt doesn't "simplify" anything, it just automates a process that could break the user's system if not understood.  Besides, you need to use makepkg to install yaourt in the first place. hmm

@ruimarto:  Exactly which pages did you read?  There's a reason that the error message specifically says "makepkg -s" and not just "makepkg," as anonymous_user pointed out.

man makepkg wrote:

-s, --syncdeps
           Install missing dependencies using pacman. When build-time or run-time dependencies are not found, pacman will try to resolve them. If successful, the missing packages will be downloaded and installed.

Arch Wiki wrote:

If required dependencies are missing, makepkg will issue a warning before failing. To build the package and install needed dependencies automatically, simply use the command:

$ makepkg -s

Note that these dependencies must be available in the configured repositories; see pacman#Repositories for details. Alternatively, one can manually install dependencies prior to building (pacman -S --asdeps dep1 dep2).


You've asked for help and now, at every step, you provide us with excuses.  Believe me, if you don't start taking steps to actually learn and figure this out on your own, this thread will likely get closed.  The mods and the community don't take kindly to folks asking to be spoon-fed.  If that isn't to your liking, then perhaps Arch isn't the distro for you.

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#21 2012-11-21 23:35:40

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Re: Installing Cinnamon DE

Did I ask to be spoon-fed? I'm not making excuses, I'm stating that I've read the wiki, and yes, I've read that "makepkg -s" would use pacman to install needed dependencies which didn't happen. When Trilby told me to use -Syu, I did and tried makepkg -s again with no success, so I resorted to yaourt again.
Believe me when I say I know where you're getting at, I used to be a mod myself on a very large tech forum, therefore I won't keep arguing. Just a bit offended for reading that after losing a couple nights of sleep reading wikis and tutorials (as well as some other articles like the Linux is NOT Windows on your sig). If I'm dumb, that's genetics.

About the topic, I've decided to start over without yaourt.

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#22 2012-11-22 03:07:16

Perfect Gentleman
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Re: Installing Cinnamon DE

Guys, are you blind?
Wiki says "cinnamon has two AUR dependencies. Using makepkg -s will not retrieve the following packages:"

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#23 2012-11-22 03:20:01

ruimarto
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Re: Installing Cinnamon DE

Nope, sorry. I've read that and used gnome-menus2 as a poor example (already edited my post), my problem was with other dependencies that it was supposed to retrieve. But never mind, I don't have any records of it and I started everything over.

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#24 2012-11-22 03:21:34

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Re: Installing Cinnamon DE

Well if your post was answered/solved, you should edit your first post and add SOLVED to the title.

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#25 2012-11-22 03:22:14

Perfect Gentleman
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Re: Installing Cinnamon DE

ruimarto, why don't use tool that works for everybody?

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