I need the source, or a little thing. Kernel -ck-kx

ilkyest · 2012-12-02 22:04:31

I'm doint tests with ck kernel, and I'll like try 2 changes, to folding uses

Folding at home official page:
http://folding.stanford.edu/English/HomePage

I'll like try the kernel with 150, 300hz and/or 250 and a between. I've seen some patches with 500hz

Could I try recompile the graysky's kernel, or I should ask him do it? I need only the ck-kx version.

graysky · 2012-12-02 22:15:14

You'll need to compile these yourself. Just enable the nconfig option and vary only one change per kernel. In your case, the tick rate.

ewaller · 2012-12-02 22:17:42

I am confused.

The kernel you reference is in the AUR. To install it, you have to compile it. All you have to do is change the PKGBUILD.

Also -- Personal pet peeve: Heinrich Hertz is a proper name. Please capitalize the SI unit named for him.

Edit: Damn. Snaked by Graysky himself. Hello Graysky.

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Xyne · 2012-12-02 22:50:20

ewaller wrote:

Also -- Personal pet peeve: Heinrich Hertz is a proper name. Please capitalize the SI unit named for him.

Not sure what triggered that, but you should read this and choose another pet peeve (I have several that I would be willing to share):

SI Brochure wrote:

Unit names are normally printed in roman (upright) type, and they are treated like ordinary nouns. In English, the names of units start with a lower-case letter (even when the symbol for the unit begins with a capital letter), except at the beginning of a sentence or in capitalized material such as a title. In keeping with this rule, the correct spelling of the name of the unit with the symbol °C is "degree Celsius" (the unit degree begins with a lower-case d and the modifier Celsius begins with an upper-case C because it is a proper name).

Source: http://www.bipm.org/en/si/si_brochure/chapter5/5-2.html
You can also check here that the unit name is "hertz".

If you don't believe the International Bureau of Weights and Measures, who maintain the SI system, then you can check NIST too: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/units.html

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graysky · 2012-12-02 22:51:55

You will also need to compile an ARCH kernel if you plan to enable the CPU optimization in your test kernels for a valid comparision. Also, make sure that you have the F@H client do the exact same problem set and time it as your end point. You will probably want to repeat each experiment 4 or 5 time as a minimum to get a statistically significant conclusion.

ewaller · 2012-12-02 23:15:39

Xyne wrote:

You can also check here that the unit name is "hertz".
If you don't believe the International Bureau of Weights and Measures, who maintain the SI system, then you can check NIST too: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/units.html

Bah!

From your link:

frequency hertz (d) Hz s–1

Looks like Hz, not hz to me. Regardless, I insist on capitalizing proper names -- standards be damned

ilkyest · 2012-12-02 23:43:07

Ok Graysky, but.... I should change the name too..... cause 'kernel's name conflicts' with that are installed

but... A think I haven't understood... I'll take it from the source? or I use pacman, and when pacman asks me to change pkgbuild I do "my changes" there?

about nconfig, it's on pkgbuild? I haven't seen this. I know that some versions of the kernel on arch I can use xconfig, or nconfig, but.... on -ck-kx kernel (the one I want test) I could do this to (enable nconfig) on PKGBUILD?

and... just nconfig? xconfig doesn't

graysky · 2012-12-02 23:47:50

Either do... I will need to change the PKGBUILD to reflect your choice. The -kx is just a name. Ses the wiki page for repo-ck for more details that explain which settings are used.

ilkyest · 2012-12-03 00:10:51

ok pal.... let's try... I post here my results

ilkyest · 2012-12-03 02:48:46

wow...a bios problem (beast and ignorant person operatin' the system)

If I install kernel ck, it doesn't shows options of pkgbuild... may be this on another directory that I should delete before try or to do it I should try only by the generic kernel (linux-ck)

graysky · 2012-12-03 08:31:30

ilkyest wrote:

If I install kernel ck, it doesn't shows options of pkgbuild... may be this on another directory that I should delete before try or to do it I should try only by the generic kernel (linux-ck)

...your text editor stops working???

The options are set to "n" by default.

% head PKGBUILD 
# Contributor: graysky <graysky AT archlinux DOT us>
# Contributor: Tobias Powalowski <tpowa@archlinux.org>
# Contributor: Thomas Baechler <thomas@archlinux.org>

### PATCH AND BUILD OPTIONS
_makenconfig="n"	# tweak kernel options prior to a build via nconfig
_localmodcfg="n"	# compile ONLY probed modules
_use_current="n"	# use the current kernel's .config file
_BFQ_enable_="n"	# enable BFQ as the default I/O scheduler

ilkyest · 2012-12-03 13:25:48

ok Graysky.... but.... you are telling about installing from AUR?

'cause I'm installing using pacman.....

I use pacman -S linux-ck-kx and don't let me change pkgbuild.... I think that it has a pkgbuild stored in some directory on the system

graysky · 2012-12-03 14:08:21

No, you are using my repo which has prebuilt packages... You need to build these yourself from the AUR using makepkg. When makepkg is finished building, you may install with pacman -U pkgname.pkg.tar.xz

See the wiki on the AUR and makepkg to learn more about it if you haven't used them before.

ilkyest · 2012-12-03 14:49:19

No, you are using my repo which has prebuilt packages... You need to build these yourself from the AUR using makepkg

Yeah.... what I've said....... BIOS problem.....

let's try again

A question yet.... from AUR and the pre-builded one, are the same? My question is about ".config" file. I haven't seen if pacman changes something.... but I should ask
==================
What about headers? I haven't found it on aur....

Last edited by ilkyest (2012-12-03 15:12:25)

graysky · 2012-12-03 16:05:57

See the wiki page for repo-ck which explains the differences which are really nothing you wouldn't do yourself when building from the AUR. More details on the wiki. The headers are part of the package. It is a split package.

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ilkyest · 2012-12-03 16:29:21

ok graysky..... I'm compiling now, with 150hz.... My question were cause I don't remember if compiling on arch is created the headers......

I'll wait the kernel ends compiling, and see on wiki about the header. On wiki of kernel, right?
=================
yeah kernel headers created

How do I change the package name? I changed the "apend" in nconfig, but my package stills are the same. I need three packages with different name, but, that will have different frequency.
like linux-ck-headers-3.6.8-1-x86_64-150.pkg; linux-ck-headers-3.6.8-1-x86_64-250.pkg linux-ck-headers-3.6.8-1-x86_64-1000.pkg

Last edited by ilkyest (2012-12-03 17:32:25)

Xyne · 2012-12-03 18:46:04

ewaller wrote:

From your link:
frequency hertz (d) Hz s–1
Looks like Hz, not hz to me. Regardless, I insist on capitalizing proper names -- standards be damned

It is Hz. The symbol is capitalized. The unit is not.

graysky · 2012-12-03 19:21:46

ilkyest wrote:

I'll wait the kernel ends compiling, and see on wiki about the header. On wiki of kernel, right?

No, look in the PKGBUILD itself.

ilkyest wrote:

How do I change the package name?

You need to read the wiki pages on PKGBUILD. You change it from within that file itself should you wish.

ilkyest · 2012-12-03 21:15:56

pkgrel

The release number of the package specific to Arch Linux. This value allows users to differentiate between consecutive builds of the same version of a package. When a new package version is first released, the release number starts at 1. As fixes and optimizations are made to the PKGBUILD file, the package will be re-released and the release number will increment by 1. When a new version of the package comes out, the release number resets to 1.

Jristz · 2012-12-04 16:02:15

ilkyest wrote:

pkgrel
The release number of the package specific to Arch Linux. This value allows users to differentiate between consecutive builds of the same version of a package. When a new package version is first released, the release number starts at 1. As fixes and optimizations are made to the PKGBUILD file, the package will be re-released and the release number will increment by 1. When a new version of the package comes out, the release number resets to 1.

In aditional if you use git. cvs. mercurtial or any cotrol verion system the releas (-1) alway as 1 exept if 2 rebuild on same day has ben maded and the verion is the day of submiting.
if you submit pony the day 1/1/1999 the package is pony-git 111999-1 but if the same day you need resubmit the package this become 111999-2 and if you submit another the next day this vecome 211999-1 and so on

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I need the source, or a little thing. Kernel -ck-kx

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