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#1 2011-09-26 07:18:17

Wojo
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Registered: 2010-02-12
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Strange behavior with GNOME/KDE, GTX470 and nvidia 280.13-1 on x86_64

Hello fellows,

I bought new hardware a couple of weeks ago, I installed Arch on it and hoped it will all work like a charm.
Unfortunately it's not, I am having some strange issues with graphic perfromance using gnome-shell and nvidia driver, all up-to-date.

That mentioned card it Zotac GTX470

02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GF100 [GeForce GTX 470] (rev a3)

The problem occurs after a while (even in 15 minutes, sometimes it's an hour) of normal desktop using (chromium, pidgin, skype, thunderbird, gnome-terminal, music-player, etc.). And it manifests that every gnome-shell graphic effect becomes horrible slow, unstable and when I manage to run glxgears I have 12FPS, instead of normal ~12000FPS (I know it's not a very good indicator, but still, there is a huge difference).

I thought it might be flashplayer fault, but problem occured even when I uninstalled it.
Then I switched to GNOME3 in fallback mode, but after a while I had very weird situation during watching of a 720p movie.
Suddenly it started to work sorely slow and mplayer had in logs that "**** Your system is too SLOW to play this!  ****",
so I rebooted it and it worked great till end of the movie.

I also noticed that I don't have to reboot whole system, Xorg is enough to fix the problem for next copule of minutes.
I am running on:

[root@cytron2:~]$ pacman -Qs nvidia | grep local
local/lib32-libvdpau 0.4.1-3
local/lib32-nvidia-utils 280.13-1
local/libcl 1.1-1
local/libvdpau 0.4.1-1
local/nvidia 280.13-1
local/nvidia-utils 280.13-1
local/opencl-nvidia 280.13-1
[root@cytron2:~]$ pacman -Q xorg-server
xorg-server 1.10.4-1
[root@cytron2:~]$ pacman -Q gnome-shell
gnome-shell 3.0.2-2

ANY idea whatsoever?
I'm pretty despered.

P.S.
I think I should roll out the GNOME entirely and run some other desktop env or window manager.

Last edited by Wojo (2011-10-02 19:13:31)

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#2 2011-09-26 18:59:22

kasl33
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Registered: 2011-09-09
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Re: Strange behavior with GNOME/KDE, GTX470 and nvidia 280.13-1 on x86_64

I have no solution for you, however I'm using a Nvidia GT435M with the latest Nvidia drivers and am having zero problems related to that. My only problem is logging out of *any* desktop environment and logging back in (where it fails and I have to reboot to get back to the GUI).

Even though our problems are unrelated, I still think there are some bugs with the latest Nvidia drivers.

Good luck!

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#3 2011-09-26 19:16:47

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Re: Strange behavior with GNOME/KDE, GTX470 and nvidia 280.13-1 on x86_64

And you're sure it's the video card?  At the same time are you seeing huge processor spikes or RAM usage?

I agree that I would try another WM just to see if it makes a difference.  You could also try to run a different version of the driver and see if that changes anything.

Also what are you seeing in the logs?  Anything related to this: nvidia / xorg / gnome messages?

Last edited by lifeafter2am (2011-09-26 19:18:20)


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#4 2011-09-26 21:30:35

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Re: Strange behavior with GNOME/KDE, GTX470 and nvidia 280.13-1 on x86_64

i too would check htop first.
Apart from that i had huge slowdowns in gnome-shell when using java apps.


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#5 2011-09-27 07:52:44

Wojo
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Re: Strange behavior with GNOME/KDE, GTX470 and nvidia 280.13-1 on x86_64

Thanks for your ideas.
Unfortunately there is no signs of anything disturbing in logs (also in dmesg).
Of course I checked `htop`, `iftop`, but everything looked fine.

However, I asked on IRC about this issue and ioni was kind enough to calm me a bit down.
He said it's about "some xorg error trap from gnome-shell/mutter not free-ing correctly" and that it will be fixed in 3.2.

I think my hope is to wait till stable GNOME3.2 will arrive.
At least I know it's not nvidia/xorg releated issue.
We'll see.

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#6 2011-10-02 19:12:05

Wojo
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Re: Strange behavior with GNOME/KDE, GTX470 and nvidia 280.13-1 on x86_64

I upgraded to GNOME3.2, problem still occured, then I switched to KDE 4.7, still same thing.
I am starting to think this is Xorg or nvidia related issue.

I noticed that in `xrestop` there is "<unknown>" process while the bug is hitting me.

res-base Wins  GCs Fnts Pxms Misc   Pxm mem  Other   Total   PID Identifier    
3e00000     0    1    0   43   51      128K      1K    129K   ?   <unknown>

Everything works fine with nouveau (except lack of vdpau)...

Any piece of advice?

Last edited by Wojo (2011-10-02 19:12:42)

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#7 2012-01-17 11:56:53

Wojo
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Registered: 2010-02-12
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Re: Strange behavior with GNOME/KDE, GTX470 and nvidia 280.13-1 on x86_64

Hello guys,

it's been a while. Unfortunetly this issue is still affecting my system.

I am posting two screenshots of xrestop below, first while Xorg/gnome-shell was responding fine and second while it wasn't.

ok:
uMksc.png
bad:
GUC3t.png

Does anyone see something disturbing here?

And one more thing, current version of packages I am running on (everything up-to-date with a multilib repo):

local/lib32-libvdpau 0.4.1-3
local/lib32-nvidia-utils 290.10-1
local/libcl 1.1-2
local/libvdpau 0.4.1-2
local/nvidia 290.10-1
local/nvidia-utils 290.10-1
local/opencl-nvidia 290.10-1
local/xorg-server 1.11.3-1 (xorg)
local/gnome-shell 3.2.1-1 (gnome)

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#8 2012-12-24 01:28:42

travnick
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Registered: 2011-04-24
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Re: Strange behavior with GNOME/KDE, GTX470 and nvidia 280.13-1 on x86_64

Have you resolved your issue?
I have very similar one.
nvidia 240M (blob drivers), core2 duo t8400, linux-pf-core2 x86_64, kde, firefox

When I'm only playing youtube clips, there are some lags sometimes (with GUI interactions, new windows, menus etc) but I can stand it.
But when I start eclipse ide during playing youtube clips, then whole environment start running completely laggy. (eclipse without flash and flash without eclipse runs fine)
Lags appears with decoration manipulations: show menu, open preferences tab, open any window. I'd rather call it "hang my whole environment for a 5 seconds" instead of lags.

Processes:
plugin-container 80-100%
kwin/X - ~20%

Those are approximate numbers because of everything hangs ;]
Maybe it's like conflict somewhere at the line flashplayer <> gtk2 (eclipse is using gtk2)?
It maybe something else, because every GUI operations causes lag, but eclipse brings the most extreme one.

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