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I realy need help - after more than a month I was fighting with this problem but without any succes. I thought that there is something wrong with my hardware so I tried to install another distro but it worked well I mean without the problems I want to mention. I've done some research and found that many others have same problem and that it was not solved very well. I tried to build another kernel with pkgbuilt from AUR installed it but it didn't help at all.
Here some links:
first at home http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … er+freezes
then neighbours
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-19 … a130a6159a
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-33 … 9e7328d2f9
I have to say that I'm down I cannot understand how to solve that. I use nvidia card and never had any problems before.
Please help me.
tony
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Could you post a link to your xorg.conf
Need just a little more info, it would help....
Mr Green
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Yes, this is my Xorg.conf file from previous post where I had problem with framebuffer.
link:
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Same problems here with my PC.
I use a IBM X22 Laptop with a D-Link DWL G650 WLan PCMCIA Card and a builtin Radeon card. Over kdm I can logon and use KDE for a while. After an infrequent amount of time the computer feezes totally. No mouse, no keyboard - nothing.
When I start in console modus the Laptop works without problems. I can download packages, etc without freezes. Therefore I would blame the problem to xorg or KDE.
I am using windows at the moment and there are no freezes thus I excluded a hardware problem.
Here is what I alread did in order to pin down the problem (without success?!):
I first thought that the freezes are related to my wireless card (because it produces much of RX transmission errors but that is another story) but they even appear with the card unplugged and the modules unloaded.
Using KDE I installed Gnome to give it a try. But still complete system freezes after infrequent times. Changed system language from german to englisch completly erasing my .kde directory (because the system seemed to run longer after starting gnome in standard englsich). No change.
Changed several times from hotplug to lshwd and back because I thought that it might be a module load problem. Switching to lshwd solved some udev problems I encountered in /var/log/errors (Oct 15 12:25:58 CAESAR udev[3609]: main: action, subsystem or devpath missing) but still no change with the freezing problem.
Tried to "stress" the PC a little bit by starting many application at startup. Openoffice, unison, thunderbird, sim, skype, etc. but the freezing times still occured infrequently.
Looking in /var/log/Xorg.0 does not give any obvious failure to me.
Sorry that I do not have my xorg.conf at hand but I will post it in order to solve the problem.
Cheers
thogie
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Try using hwd to create a xorg.conf ... see if that works.
Had locks up in Arch64 which turned out to be a problem in xorg.conf (my fault :oops: )
HTH
Mr Green
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Unfortunately hwd -x does not help stopping the freezes. Just tried it and PC stopped working after 30 sec or so :cry:.
But thanks for the input .
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ok .... what kernel you using?
Mr Green
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kernel26 2.6.13.4-1
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my suspect would be the driver for the graphics chip...
However the other links refer to nvidia cards as does your post in relation to your PC
you lappy lists a radeon -- usually ATI
(have you tried the nvidia -legacy drivers for your pc)
what chip is in the laptop, on board is a little generic.....
same for your pc what is the actual chip...
may help in trying to answer your questions
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To quote myself:
[...] and a builtin Radeon card.
As I created the xorg.conf by hwd -x the radeon card was found correctly. And no obvious failures with dmesg.
Any other ideas? Contact me via ICQ! I would really like to get my archlinux back to work.
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I didn't try nvidia-legacy driver yet but I'll try today and post the result and as for my hwd:
Athlon XP2400, Chip Gigabyte KT7VAXP
Graphic Card: MSI GeForce 6200 ( NX6200-TD128E )
Before I changed to that card I had 64MB Gforce from the same producer but at the end(before the change to new one) the same problem.
It all started by (I think) some kernel update but I don't remember which one. Meanwhile I tried different kernels but without any succes - I mean I built them with abs.
(BTW: I tested the last release of Ubuntu and all went good. But I don't want to switch to another distro. Arch is the only distro which was on my desktop for last year - never happened before.)
Please Help
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Nah dont try nvidia -legacay your card should be fine with the normal nvidia drivers dont use xorg's nv that is next to usless..
what was the start of the problem was it the swith to gcc4 or a kernel upgrade, as both kernel and modules must be built with same gcc
are you full -Syu
have you tried the ati drivers for your LAP TOP
Please disable any extra options (such as dri or compostie) in your xorg conf set to default depth 16
and see how it behaves
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I am using the xorg radeon drivers that are included. BTW the inbuilt card is an ATI Mobility Radeon 7000 with 8MB of RAM.
Disabled DRI in the xorg.conf (default depth was 16bit).
Started KDE: This time it took much longer but still - bang! System completly froozen.
Any suggestions? May the ati prop driver help?
Any ideas how I could pin the problem further down?
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ok so the chip is fairly recent probably worth trying the ati ones ..
I my memory serves me right, x has several different ati drivers built into it but these are for very old chips.. chould be worth experimenting.
please post the xorg.conf files
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You know, if there's one thing that annoys the heck out of me about XOrg, it's that it's capable of hard freezes. I'm fine with everything else about it; but if something screws up, it should just exit! :x
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Tony: This problem is with the nvidia driver AFAIK. Nvidia say it will be fixed in the -8xxx series driver.
In the meantime you can try the old 6629 driver - the last one known without these problems - see my post here
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=15420
and see if you get any improvement.
"if i have a bag of rocks to carry as i go, i just want to hold my head up high
i don't care what i have to step over, i'm prepared to look you in the eye"
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Thank you SamuraiDan, I'll try and let you know. Today before your post
I tried to reinstall everything again hoping I don't know for what but of course without any succes - (old driver?! *#@!!!! uck - hope you're right).
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I tried to install the ati prop driver. Downloaded the graphical installer from the ati webpage (~ 60MB) started the ati-driver-installer-8.18.6-i386.run and :cry: another comlete freeze of my system.
I will try today the packages from the aur repository (http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?d … s=0&SeB=nd).
Here is my xorg.conf. This is the one that was created by hwd -x.
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "XFree86 Configured"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
# PS/2 Mouse not detected
# Serial Mouse not detected
InputDevice "USB Mouse" "CorePointer"
EndSection
Section "ServerFlags"
Option "AllowMouseOpenFail" "true"
EndSection
Section "Files"
RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/PEX"
# Additional fonts: Locale, Gimp, TTF...
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
# FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/75dpi"
# FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/100dpi"
# True type and type1 fonts are also handled via xftlib, see /etc/X11/XftConfig!
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/western"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/truetype"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/openoffice"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/latex-ttf-fonts"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/defoma/CID"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/defoma/TrueType"
EndSection
Section "Module"
Load "ddc" # ddc probing of monitor
Load "GLcore"
Load "dbe"
#Load "dri"
Load "extmod"
Load "glx"
Load "bitmap" # bitmap-fonts
Load "type1"
Load "freetype"
Load "record"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "keyboard"
Option "CoreKeyboard"
Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" ""
Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Serial Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "Microsoft"
Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
Option "Emulate3Timeout" "70"
Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "PS/2 Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "auto"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
Option "Emulate3Timeout" "70"
Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "USB Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "Buttons" "5"
EndSection
# Auto-generated by Archie mkxcfg
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
Option "DPMS" "true"
# HorizSync 28.0 - 78.0 # Warning: This may fry very old Monitors
HorizSync 28.0 - 96.0 # Warning: This may fry old Monitors
VertRefresh 50.0 - 75.0 # Very conservative. May flicker.
# VertRefresh 50.0 - 62.0 # Extreme conservative. Will flicker. TFT default.
# Default modes distilled from
# "VESA and Industry Standards and Guide for Computer Display Monitor
# Timing", version 1.0, revision 0.8, adopted September 17, 1998.
# $XFree86: xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/etc/vesamodes,v 1.4 1999/11/18 16:52:17 tsi Exp $
# 640x350 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.9kHz
ModeLine "640x350" 31.5 640 672 736 832 350 382 385 445 +hsync -vsync
# 640x400 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.9kHz
ModeLine "640x400" 31.5 640 672 736 832 400 401 404 445 -hsync +vsync
# 720x400 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.9kHz
ModeLine "720x400" 35.5 720 756 828 936 400 401 404 446 -hsync +vsync
# 640x480 @ 60Hz (Industry standard) hsync: 31.5kHz
ModeLine "640x480" 25.2 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync
# 640x480 @ 72Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.9kHz
ModeLine "640x480" 31.5 640 664 704 832 480 489 491 520 -hsync -vsync
# 640x480 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.5kHz
ModeLine "640x480" 31.5 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync
# 640x480 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 43.3kHz
ModeLine "640x480" 36.0 640 696 752 832 480 481 484 509 -hsync -vsync
# 800x600 @ 56Hz (VESA) hsync: 35.2kHz
ModeLine "800x600" 36.0 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync
# 800x600 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.9kHz
ModeLine "800x600" 40.0 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync
# 800x600 @ 72Hz (VESA) hsync: 48.1kHz
ModeLine "800x600" 50.0 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync
# 800x600 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 46.9kHz
ModeLine "800x600" 49.5 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync
# 800x600 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 53.7kHz
ModeLine "800x600" 56.3 800 832 896 1048 600 601 604 631 +hsync +vsync
# 1024x768i @ 43Hz (industry standard) hsync: 35.5kHz
ModeLine "1024x768" 44.9 1024 1032 1208 1264 768 768 776 817 +hsync +vsync Interlace
# 1024x768 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 48.4kHz
ModeLine "1024x768" 65.0 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync
# 1024x768 @ 70Hz (VESA) hsync: 56.5kHz
ModeLine "1024x768" 75.0 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync
# 1024x768 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 60.0kHz
ModeLine "1024x768" 78.8 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync
# 1024x768 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 68.7kHz
ModeLine "1024x768" 94.5 1024 1072 1168 1376 768 769 772 808 +hsync +vsync
# 1152x864 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 67.5kHz
ModeLine "1152x864" 108.0 1152 1216 1344 1600 864 865 868 900 +hsync +vsync
# 1280x960 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 60.0kHz
ModeLine "1280x960" 108.0 1280 1376 1488 1800 960 961 964 1000 +hsync +vsync
# 1280x960 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 85.9kHz
ModeLine "1280x960" 148.5 1280 1344 1504 1728 960 961 964 1011 +hsync +vsync
# 1280x1024 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 64.0kHz
ModeLine "1280x1024" 108.0 1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync
# 1280x1024 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 80.0kHz
ModeLine "1280x1024" 135.0 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync
# 1280x1024 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 91.1kHz
ModeLine "1280x1024" 157.5 1280 1344 1504 1728 1024 1025 1028 1072 +hsync +vsync
# 1600x1200 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 75.0kHz
ModeLine "1600x1200" 162.0 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
# 1600x1200 @ 65Hz (VESA) hsync: 81.3kHz
ModeLine "1600x1200" 175.5 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
# 1600x1200 @ 70Hz (VESA) hsync: 87.5kHz
ModeLine "1600x1200" 189.0 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
# 1600x1200 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 93.8kHz
ModeLine "1600x1200" 202.5 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
# 1600x1200 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 106.3kHz
ModeLine "1600x1200" 229.5 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
# 1792x1344 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 83.6kHz
ModeLine "1792x1344" 204.8 1792 1920 2120 2448 1344 1345 1348 1394 -hsync +vsync
# 1792x1344 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 106.3kHz
ModeLine "1792x1344" 261.0 1792 1888 2104 2456 1344 1345 1348 1417 -hsync +vsync
# 1856x1392 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 86.3kHz
ModeLine "1856x1392" 218.3 1856 1952 2176 2528 1392 1393 1396 1439 -hsync +vsync
# 1856x1392 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 112.5kHz
ModeLine "1856x1392" 288.0 1856 1984 2208 2560 1392 1393 1396 1500 -hsync +vsync
# 1920x1440 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 90.0kHz
ModeLine "1920x1440" 234.0 1920 2048 2256 2600 1440 1441 1444 1500 -hsync +vsync
# 1920x1440 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 112.5kHz
ModeLine "1920x1440" 297.0 1920 2064 2288 2640 1440 1441 1444 1500 -hsync +vsync
# Additional modelines
ModeLine "1800x1440" 230 1800 1896 2088 2392 1440 1441 1444 1490 +HSync +VSync
ModeLine "1800x1440" 250 1800 1896 2088 2392 1440 1441 1444 1490 +HSync +VSync
# Extended modelines with GTF timings
# 640x480 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 50.90 kHz; pclk: 43.16 MHz
ModeLine "640x480" 43.16 640 680 744 848 480 481 484 509 -HSync +Vsync
# 768x576 @ 60.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 35.82 kHz; pclk: 34.96 MHz
ModeLine "768x576" 34.96 768 792 872 976 576 577 580 597 -HSync +Vsync
# 768x576 @ 72.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 43.27 kHz; pclk: 42.93 MHz
ModeLine "768x576" 42.93 768 800 880 992 576 577 580 601 -HSync +Vsync
# 768x576 @ 75.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 45.15 kHz; pclk: 45.51 MHz
ModeLine "768x576" 45.51 768 808 888 1008 576 577 580 602 -HSync +Vsync
# 768x576 @ 85.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 51.42 kHz; pclk: 51.84 MHz
ModeLine "768x576" 51.84 768 808 888 1008 576 577 580 605 -HSync +Vsync
# 768x576 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 61.10 kHz; pclk: 62.57 MHz
ModeLine "768x576" 62.57 768 816 896 1024 576 577 580 611 -HSync +Vsync
# 800x600 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 63.60 kHz; pclk: 68.18 MHz
ModeLine "800x600" 68.18 800 848 936 1072 600 601 604 636 -HSync +Vsync
# 1024x768 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 81.40 kHz; pclk: 113.31 MHz
ModeLine "1024x768" 113.31 1024 1096 1208 1392 768 769 772 814 -HSync +Vsync
# 1152x864 @ 60.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 53.70 kHz; pclk: 81.62 MHz
ModeLine "1152x864" 81.62 1152 1216 1336 1520 864 865 868 895 -HSync +Vsync
# 1152x864 @ 85.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 77.10 kHz; pclk: 119.65 MHz
ModeLine "1152x864" 119.65 1152 1224 1352 1552 864 865 868 907 -HSync +Vsync
# 1152x864 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 91.50 kHz; pclk: 143.47 MHz
ModeLine "1152x864" 143.47 1152 1232 1360 1568 864 865 868 915 -HSync +Vsync
# 1280x960 @ 72.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 72.07 kHz; pclk: 124.54 MHz
ModeLine "1280x960" 124.54 1280 1368 1504 1728 960 961 964 1001 -HSync +Vsync
# 1280x960 @ 75.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 75.15 kHz; pclk: 129.86 MHz
ModeLine "1280x960" 129.86 1280 1368 1504 1728 960 961 964 1002 -HSync +Vsync
# 1280x960 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 101.70 kHz; pclk: 178.99 MHz
ModeLine "1280x960" 178.99 1280 1376 1520 1760 960 961 964 1017 -HSync +Vsync
# 1280x1024 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 108.50 kHz; pclk: 190.96 MHz
ModeLine "1280x1024" 190.96 1280 1376 1520 1760 1024 1025 1028 1085 -HSync +Vsync
# 1400x1050 @ 60.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 65.22 kHz; pclk: 122.61 MHz
ModeLine "1400x1050" 122.61 1400 1488 1640 1880 1050 1051 1054 1087 -HSync +Vsync
# 1400x1050 @ 72.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 78.77 kHz; pclk: 149.34 MHz
ModeLine "1400x1050" 149.34 1400 1496 1648 1896 1050 1051 1054 1094 -HSync +Vsync
# 1400x1050 @ 75.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 82.20 kHz; pclk: 155.85 MHz
ModeLine "1400x1050" 155.85 1400 1496 1648 1896 1050 1051 1054 1096 -HSync +Vsync
# 1400x1050 @ 85.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 93.76 kHz; pclk: 179.26 MHz
ModeLine "1400x1050" 179.26 1400 1504 1656 1912 1050 1051 1054 1103 -HSync +Vsync
# 1400x1050 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 111.20 kHz; pclk: 214.39 MHz
ModeLine "1400x1050" 214.39 1400 1512 1664 1928 1050 1051 1054 1112 -HSync +Vsync
# 1600x1200 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 127.10 kHz; pclk: 280.64 MHz
ModeLine "1600x1200" 280.64 1600 1728 1904 2208 1200 1201 1204 1271 -HSync +Vsync
EndSection
# Auto-generated by Archie mkxcfg
Section "Device"
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "radeon"
VendorName "All"
BoardName "All"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultColorDepth 16
SubSection "Display"
Depth 1
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 4
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 15
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 32
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection
Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection
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SamuraiDan Thank you but its not better.
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Finally I managed to install the ati propiertary drivers. But my card is not supported (only radeon >9000 and radeon mobile >7500)...
Googled (google:radeon 7000 +xorg) a little bit about xorg and the inbuilt ati radeon drivers and it looks like a bug of xorg 6.8 and my radeon mobile 7000 :-(. Unfortunately I think I have to wait for a xorg update.
Thanks for all the input.
Cheers
thomas
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I've been thinking about recompiling(with ABS) xorg + kernel in my comp. This way I could prevent to have these packages compiled by different gcc?? What do you think about it? does it make any sense to you???
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I've been thinking about recompiling(with ABS) xorg + kernel in my comp. This way I could prevent to have these packages compiled by different gcc?? What do you think about it? does it make any sense to you???
Edit: Do you have any idea if this helps or does it make any sense to you:
nvidia-kernel packages older than 1.0.6106 only support kernels using an 8K stack size. More recent kernels (2.6.6 and higher) have support for 4K stack size's as well. Do not select 4K stack size in your kernel configuration if you are using such an nvidia-kernel package. You can find this option in the section Kernel Hacking.
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So it seems that no other NVIDIA users have the same problem. But let me ask a question is this dependent on the model of the particular card or manufacturer?
BTW yesterday I tried to install : Suse 9.3 – same, PCBSD – same, (Desktop BSD – was not able to install - didn't boot at all).
Please experienced users Dusty, Diblethewrecker, Theoden, Rensel and the others don't let me down.
Help me please.
:cry: :cry: :cry:
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Dunno if it helps, but my fairly new laptop is unusable with kernel 2.6.13.4: Sometimes the boot sequence halts due to ACPI errors, some other times it boots into KDE but it's dog slow/unstable. It does have an nvidia 6800 videocard, and I do use the "nvidia" driver.
With the Archck kernel it works just great (after some fancy footwork to make the Marvel Yukon online ethernet and the Realtek ALC880 HD audio to work properly- but that's another story).
Microshaft delenda est
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tony: some problems i've experienced in the past with my nvidia card...
:: udev + xorg = mouse at /dev/input/mice otherwise x crashes.
:: xorg.conf Section "Device" needs BusID "PCI:1:0:0" or x crashes.
Best of luck.
fck art, lets dance.
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