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#1 2005-10-26 07:26:01

subatomic
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powering down

recently my mainboard died and after I replaced it I updated my system, so Im not really sure if its a bios thing or not, but Ive tried changing most of the power setting in the bios menu.

anyway, before my machine would power down after shutdown, now it just sits there and waits for me to push the power button.

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#2 2005-10-26 07:39:27

LudoTheGreat
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Re: powering down

This usally works for me.

shutdown -h now 

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#3 2005-10-26 08:31:15

Cam
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Re: powering down

Sounds like an ACPI issue. Are you running a stock kernel or one you built yourself?

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#4 2005-10-26 18:57:43

subatomic
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Re: powering down

yeah it's a stock 2.6 kernel from the archlinux 0.7 release. I can't remember if there was an ACPI entry in my kernel boot line. If there hasn't been a mod since I updated then it must be a bios issue.

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#5 2005-10-26 19:37:16

Snowman
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Re: powering down

Just a guess : maybe running the acpid daemon might help.

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#6 2005-10-26 19:59:36

grandmouse
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Re: powering down

append acpi=off

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#7 2005-10-27 10:57:02

Arn0
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Re: powering down

Have you tried "shutdown -hP now" ?


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#8 2005-10-27 19:22:00

subatomic
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Re: powering down

none of this is working. I don't have acpi running. should I? what I think I need is to have my machine interpret the signal 'poweroff' which is being sent from the shutdown script. sounds more like a bios adjustment to me.

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#9 2005-10-27 21:34:45

Arn0
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Re: powering down

Have you treid booting into kernel 2.4 to see if power off works with a difrent kernel?

I've googled a bit and found some post about power off not working after a kernel updat (2.0 to 2.2 and 2.2 to 2.4).


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#10 2005-10-27 21:52:56

subatomic
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Re: powering down

it worked with the stock 2.6.10 kernel before I did a system update

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#11 2005-10-30 19:35:07

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Re: powering down

subatomic wrote:

none of this is working. I don't have acpi running. should I? what I think I need is to have my machine interpret the signal 'poweroff' which is being sent from the shutdown script. sounds more like a bios adjustment to me.

The machine will not power down without you pushing the power button unless APCI is turned on. 'poweroff' is an APCI signal, so ... you get the point. Unless you have a reason for turning off APCI, why do it?


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#12 2005-10-31 22:34:25

subatomic
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Re: powering down

what is acpi and what is acpid? do I need to install both? I installed acpid but it appears I need some events. I'm certain I've never had to do this before.

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#13 2005-11-01 10:50:16

subatomic
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Re: powering down

is reboot an acpi signal? that still works.

# Power off or reboot
if [ "$RUNLEVEL" = "0" ]; then
    printsep
    printhl "${C_H2}POWER OFF"
    /sbin/poweroff -d -f -h -i
else
    printsep
    printhl "${C_H2}REBOOTING"
    /sbin/reboot -d -f -i
fi

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#14 2005-11-04 07:46:31

subatomic
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Re: powering down

still not solved...

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#15 2005-11-04 11:40:32

AndyRTR
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Re: powering down

Maybe you have to add acpi=force to the append line in the lilo.conf. My laptop needed this for a long time of kernel releases.

What motherboard/chipset is it?

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#16 2005-11-04 17:57:17

subatomic
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Re: powering down

It is an MSI K7T Turbo mainboard with a VIA KT133A chipset and Award BIOS. Previous to it I had a Chaintech with the same chip I believe, but it was a diff BIOS, AMI or Phoenix.

I'm using Grub, have installed acpi and acpid, although I have no events. As I have said, I never had any and not running it in the past and therefore don't believe this is the prob - but I will try anything!

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#17 2005-11-06 20:56:37

cs25x
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Re: powering down

have you turned on acpi in the bios?


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#18 2005-12-14 15:58:14

subatomic
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Re: powering down

acpi is and has always been on

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#19 2005-12-14 17:50:27

paranoos
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Re: powering down

to clear things up a little bit, acpid is not required. it lets you do cool things during acpi events ... such as clicking the power button. for instance, i have my computer do a clean shutdown when i click the power button.

have you tried downgrading your kernel to make sure shutdown still works with the old version?

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#20 2005-12-14 20:55:49

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Re: powering down

A friend of mine tried several hardware variations of the MSI K7T Turbo board, and some of them are not working correctly.

one for example could only run windows 98, but crashed on windows 2k & xp.
another ran only stable under wxp.

All had the same chipset and bios ....


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Try clean chroot manager by graysky

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#21 2005-12-14 21:03:39

subatomic
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Re: powering down

as I said I never had acpi running nor any events with the other mainboard. I'm certain it's somewhere in the bios.
It's not really a problem, just puzzles me why it doesn't work with this mobo.
Let's just close this thread. Thanks everyone.

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#22 2005-12-15 13:45:52

subatomic
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Re: powering down

well, you guys are not going to beleive this.

when I put in the new mainboard I only attached the power connector, but never the power or hdd LEDs. Im sure I just wanted to see if it booted and was probably so excited I forgot.

well I got around to it today and what do you know, it powered complete off.

told you you wouildn't beleive it.

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