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#1 2013-01-27 17:52:16

mini
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Kernel freezing since 3.4 (radeon X2300) - [SOLVED]

The last working kernel for me is 3.4.9-1
system info:
VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI M64-S
[Mobility Radeon X2300] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company 6910p

With the all new kernels I cannot get my laptop to work.
Without nomodeset in Kernel Mode Setting the system freezes momentarily
-Decompresing Linux...Parsing ELF..done
Booting the kernel

When i pun nomodeset in Kernel Mode Setting the freezing is by
-Reached target Graphical Interface

Last edited by mini (2013-02-07 20:08:29)

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#2 2013-01-27 18:07:35

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Re: Kernel freezing since 3.4 (radeon X2300) - [SOLVED]

Have you tried nomodeset with xorg-video-modesetting installed?


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#3 2013-01-27 18:14:09

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Re: Kernel freezing since 3.4 (radeon X2300) - [SOLVED]

I cannot find any xorg-video-modesetting in Package Database

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#4 2013-01-27 18:31:21

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Re: Kernel freezing since 3.4 (radeon X2300) - [SOLVED]

Sorry, xf86-video-modesetting.


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#5 2013-01-27 19:36:16

mini
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Re: Kernel freezing since 3.4 (radeon X2300) - [SOLVED]

Thank you for your help, but system still freezes at
-Reached target Graphical Interface

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#6 2013-01-28 10:21:11

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Re: Kernel freezing since 3.4 (radeon X2300) - [SOLVED]

Does CTRL+ALT+F1 work ?
if so , you can login to console and view Xorg.0.log for errors.

If not, boot from a rescue cd/usbstick and use chroot (see the wiki for details) to troubleshoot.


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Automounting : not needed, i prefer pmount
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#7 2013-01-28 18:08:24

mini
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Re: Kernel freezing since 3.4 (radeon X2300) - [SOLVED]

Yes, i can read  xorg.0.log but i do not know what is the problem:

....
(II) KMS  drm report modesetting isn't supported
KMS  drm report modesetting isn't supported
KMS  drm report modesetting isn't supported
(EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section
(II)UnloadModule "radeon"
(II)UnloadModule "radeon"
Fatal server error..

I have not any xorg.conf file

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#8 2013-01-29 16:17:29

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Re: Kernel freezing since 3.4 (radeon X2300) - [SOLVED]

Ok, the failure when starting X is now clear :
you boot up with nomodeset = KMS disabled, and xf86-video-ati only works with KMS enabled, so x fails to start.

As a temporary workaround you could remove xf86-video-ati , and install xf86-video-vesa instead.
graphics will be slow then without any accelaration, but X should work.

did you have the ati proprietary driver fglrx installed in the past ?
if so, a remnant of fglrx might be preventing KMS to work correctly.
Check the arch wiki on radeon.

the output of lspci on your system and a dmesg from a boot with a recent kernel would be helpful.


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Automounting : not needed, i prefer pmount
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#9 2013-01-29 20:40:13

mini
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Re: Kernel freezing since 3.4 (radeon X2300) - [SOLVED]

Thanks a lot for your input. I have not installed catalyst (fglrx) in the past, maybe for many weeks ago.
Sorry for stupid question. Which way can I check remnant of fglrx driver?

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#10 2013-01-30 09:47:40

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Re: Kernel freezing since 3.4 (radeon X2300) - [SOLVED]

mini wrote:

Thanks a lot for your input. I have not installed catalyst (fglrx) in the past, maybe for many weeks ago.
Sorry for stupid question. Which way can I check remnant of fglrx driver?

that can be tough, but some things to check :

/etc/modules-load.d/
/etc/modprobe/

pacman -Qs dkms (if any dkms pacakages are present, they should be removed)

dmesg | grep fglrx

Last edited by Lone_Wolf (2013-01-30 09:48:48)


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#11 2013-01-31 17:53:45

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Re: Kernel freezing since 3.4 (radeon X2300) - [SOLVED]

I do not find any remnant of fglrx driver. It is something strange with the new kernels because my radeon driver works very well with kernel 3.4.9-1, so i am back on it.

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#12 2013-02-02 13:39:50

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Re: Kernel freezing since 3.4 (radeon X2300) - [SOLVED]

Check your Xorg0.log from 3.4.9-1 .

I think you'll find X is using User Mode Switching (UMS) instead of Kernel Mode Switching (KMS) .
If that's correct, then the problem between KMS and your card exists in kernel 3.4.9 also.
(UMS was disabled in the radeon kernel module at some point, but i can't find in which kernel version that was)

Either way, this seems to be a kernel/driver bug.


Booting with apg Openrc, NOT systemd.
Automounting : not needed, i prefer pmount
Aur helpers : makepkg + my own local repo === rarely need them

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#13 2013-02-02 16:09:11

mini
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Re: Kernel freezing since 3.4 (radeon X2300) - [SOLVED]

From my Xorg0.log:

[    18.088] (II) [KMS] Kernel modesetting enabled.
[    18.088] (II) RADEON(0): Creating default Display subsection in Screen section
    "Default Screen Section" for depth/fbbpp 24/32
[    18.088] (==) RADEON(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
[    18.088] (II) RADEON(0): Pixel depth = 24 bits stored in 4 bytes (32 bpp pixmaps)
[    18.088] (==) RADEON(0): Default visual is TrueColor
[    18.088] (==) RADEON(0): RGB weight 888
[    18.088] (II) RADEON(0): Using 8 bits per RGB (8 bit DAC)
[    18.088] (--) RADEON(0): Chipset: "ATI Mobility Radeon X2300" (ChipID = 0x7188)
[    18.088] (II) Loading sub module "dri2"
[    18.088] (II) LoadModule: "dri2"
[    18.088] (II) Module "dri2" already built-in
[    18.088] (II) Loading sub module "exa"
[    18.088] (II) LoadModule: "exa"
[    18.088] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libexa.so
[    18.104] (II) Module exa: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[    18.104]     compiled for 1.13.2, module version = 2.6.0
[    18.104]     ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 13.1
[    18.104] (II) RADEON(0): KMS Color Tiling: enabled
[    18.104] (II) RADEON(0): KMS Color Tiling 2D: disabled
[    18.104] (II) RADEON(0): KMS Pageflipping: enabled

BTW today it has been updated ati driver to xf86-video-ati 1:7.1.0-1, but for my Radeon X2300 it has not helped.

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#14 2013-02-03 14:34:45

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Re: Kernel freezing since 3.4 (radeon X2300) - [SOLVED]

Ok, my assumption about UMS was clearly wrong, so i did some searching.

Check out this redhat bug report : https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=845745

In comment #102 of that bugreport a workaround is mentioned that solved the problem for several people.
I suggest you try out that workaround


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#15 2013-02-05 19:47:46

mini
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Re: Kernel freezing since 3.4 (radeon X2300) - [SOLVED]

You are the best. When I run:

modprobe -r radeon
modprobe -r drm
modprobe radeon modeset=1

the windows manager starter correctly.

I have created /etc/rc.local:

modprobe -r radeon
modprobe -r drm
modprobe radeon modeset=1
and
mod a+x /etc/rc.local

but the script will not start at boot. Which way can I make it executable?

Last edited by mini (2013-02-05 19:48:17)

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#16 2013-02-06 09:48:30

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Re: Kernel freezing since 3.4 (radeon X2300) - [SOLVED]

rc.local depends on initscripts, but systemd doesn't use initscripts anymore.

arch Systemd wiki suggests you have to write your own systemd .service file.
I can't help with that, but i think you'll find several threads about writing .service files on forum.
If you want to go that way, imo it would be best to start a new thread.

Incase you use startx to get into x, an alternative would be to put those commands in ~/.xinitrc.
modprobe requires root-rights, so you'll have to use /etc/sudoers to give your user those rights (check the wiki).

If you use a login manager (xdm, gdm , kdm etc) i think only the systemd .service file way will work.


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Automounting : not needed, i prefer pmount
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#17 2013-02-07 11:15:38

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Re: Kernel freezing since 3.4 (radeon X2300) - [SOLVED]

Thank you for the info, I packaged such a service file for our convenience: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/rade … t-service/

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#18 2013-02-07 20:07:15

mini
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Re: Kernel freezing since 3.4 (radeon X2300) - [SOLVED]

Thanks a lot. Now my system works very well with the last kernel 3.7.5-1-ARCH

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#19 2013-06-17 13:57:17

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Re: Kernel freezing since 3.4 (radeon X2300) - [SOLVED]

Finally, with 3.9.6, the issue seems to be fixed on my system (RV516/M62-S [Mobility Radeon X1350]).

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