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#1 2013-01-31 17:15:56

89c51
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Some Enlightenment 0.17.1 questions/troubleshooting.

I am reading through the change log for the latest e release and i observe some things that should work and in practice they don't with the arch package.

1) When clicking a link the efm is supposed to open the target directory (ie. click /lib or /lib64). Instead i get.

EOPbgtg.png

2) DND on mounted drive icons is supposed to work -and the new release even fixes a bug for it- but it doesn't. Someone told me that this should work so is it just a configuration problem?

3) Trying to change the notification urgency level (Settings>Extension>Notification) crashes e17.




Bonus (you can ignore these since there are topics on them):

4) Video previews still crash (https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=156754). Also i don't get sound on .mkv previews.

5) Startup apps didn't start after the update and after a few reboots it fixed itself. hmm

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#2 2013-02-04 10:32:49

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Re: Some Enlightenment 0.17.1 questions/troubleshooting.

Hi,

I have pretty much the same first problem.

Here my configuration, problem and quick analyse:

I have two nfs mount from my nas: /mnt/backup and /mnt/media
In my home I have to symlink to these mounts ie:
~/Backup -> /mnt/backup
~/Media  -> /mnt/media

With the file manager open on my home diretory the icon of Backup is a directory icon but the icon of Media is a icon of a file/sheet/paper with an asking mark in it.
When I double click on Backup every things go right, I see the content of my nas for the directory backup. But when I click on Media I have the weird error window "Nonexistent path" with the following message /home/me/mnt/nas/media doesn't exist. But if I put the mouse on it the file manager open the preview windows with the correct dirs and files in it. And if I try to open /mnt/nas/media e17 freeze completely.

As I can see the things there are two linked problemes. e17  crash when it checks what is inside my mount point media (some video it can't run perhaps?), and the window error message concatenate <<wrongly>> the path of the link and the link.

any clue or idea are welcome, cause I love very very much e17, but with a bug like this e17 is totally unusable (for me)

Best Regards

Last edited by humhumhum (2013-02-04 10:57:41)

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#3 2013-02-04 12:40:44

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Re: Some Enlightenment 0.17.1 questions/troubleshooting.

EFM needs quite some work (probably things will be much better in E18 which is comming). You can use an alternative File manager up unlit then.

The "problem" seems to be that E is developed by people who don't use the desktop in a joe average user way so you end up with features that are used by commoners but are not important to a dev.

BTW could you test the Drag and drop thing. It IS supposed to work i had a dev confirming it should and i can't get it to work.

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#4 2013-02-05 13:47:53

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Re: Some Enlightenment 0.17.1 questions/troubleshooting.

Two more:

1)When i launch Avahi VNC browser and hit cancel i get an Application execution error window saying

Error Information:
	An exit code of 1 was returned from /usr/bin/bvnc.

Output Data:
	There was no output

Error Logs:
	There was no error message

2) What options you have to tick in the Settings>Launcher> Everything Plugins:Files in order to get Everything show files as i type?

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#5 2013-02-11 08:25:47

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Re: Some Enlightenment 0.17.1 questions/troubleshooting.

Anyone else having enlightenment crash when Menu> Enlightenment> Restart or Exit ???

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#6 2013-02-11 09:18:02

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Re: Some Enlightenment 0.17.1 questions/troubleshooting.

Yes, it's because of curl 7.29. I looked into it some, but don't have a fix other than downgrading. In my case, it's also throwing a segv when opening the file manager or closing a Terminology window.

It's been reported on the Enlightenment mailing list, but nothing much happens over a weekend.

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#7 2013-02-11 12:36:24

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Re: Some Enlightenment 0.17.1 questions/troubleshooting.

https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/33811

Bug in libcurl. falconindy has already already backported the fix and pushed the new version to testing. I just tested it, works here.

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#8 2013-02-11 15:33:45

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Re: Some Enlightenment 0.17.1 questions/troubleshooting.

Thanks.

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#9 2013-02-13 12:21:53

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Re: Some Enlightenment 0.17.1 questions/troubleshooting.

I just started using e17 seriously for the first time and I was a bit worried about the frequent segfaults. It's good to see that the errors are known.

How can I make sure that I have the latest version? Since many packages come as *-svn, does this mean I'll have to reinstall the package manually when I think that something has changed in the svn? or would it be enough to update all AUR packages with 'yaourt -Syua'?

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#10 2013-02-13 13:47:32

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Re: Some Enlightenment 0.17.1 questions/troubleshooting.

SoleSoul wrote:

I just started using e17 seriously for the first time and I was a bit worried about the frequent segfaults. It's good to see that the errors are known.

How can I make sure that I have the latest version? Since many packages come as *-svn, does this mean I'll have to reinstall the package manually when I think that something has changed in the svn? or would it be enough to update all AUR packages with 'yaourt -Syua'?


If you want stability -better stability than the quite stable svn- you better use the packages from the official repo.

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#11 2013-02-13 13:51:01

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Re: Some Enlightenment 0.17.1 questions/troubleshooting.

Thanks for the answer.

I have installed the packages from the official repo but many parts are missing, like engage and EConnMan. I use the packages from the repo with AUR packages for additional modules.

About the second question (updating the svn packages), if anyone knows, it would let me sleep well at night smile

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#12 2013-02-13 14:07:48

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Re: Some Enlightenment 0.17.1 questions/troubleshooting.

SoleSoul wrote:

Thanks for the answer.

I have installed the packages from the official repo but many parts are missing, like engage and EConnMan. I use the packages from the repo with AUR packages for additional modules.

About the second question (updating the svn packages), if anyone knows, it would let me sleep well at night smile


I might be wrong here but isn't EconnMan the same as Settings>Modules>System>Connection Manager that is included by default??


May i also ask whats your experience with DND on mounted drives on the desktop?? Does it work for you?

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#13 2013-02-13 14:20:18

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Re: Some Enlightenment 0.17.1 questions/troubleshooting.

About EConnMan, I don't know. I was new to e17 when I made it work. Before installing EConnMan it didn't work, and after that, it worked. Maybe It would have worked without installing EConnMan. Now I recall that I've read somewhere that ConnMan is required for network management and that EConMan adds configuration options. Maybe that is the answer.

Aboud DND, I'm not sure I understand the quesion. I can drag the icon of a USB device around. If I drag a file on top of the icon, the file does not get copied to the device but to the Desktop.

And I also have a quesion if you don't mind. Does mounting of internal hard drives work for you? I couldn't make it work as non root in any way.

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#14 2013-02-13 14:27:31

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Re: Some Enlightenment 0.17.1 questions/troubleshooting.

SoleSoul wrote:

Aboud DND, I'm not sure I understand the quesion. I can drag the icon of a USB device around. If I drag a file on top of the icon, the file does not get copied to the device but to the Desktop.

You answered it. It is supposed to copy the file in the drive. And it is supposed to work out of the box. hmm

SoleSoul wrote:

And I also have a quesion if you don't mind. Does mounting of internal hard drives work for you? I couldn't make it work as non root in any way.

I don't have an extra internal drive so i can't answer that. Sorry.

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#15 2013-02-13 23:55:43

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Re: Some Enlightenment 0.17.1 questions/troubleshooting.

89c51 wrote:

I might be wrong here but isn't EconnMan the same as Settings>Modules>System>Connection Manager that is included by default??

No, it's not. That module is a very basic interface, you click on it and pick a wifi network, that's it. You'll notice that when you do, there's a button at the bottom that says "Configure", this launches EConnMan, which is a python interface that gives you a lot more information and configuration.

Edit: to answer the question about -svn packages, yaourt will check for new versions of the package whenever you do your -Syua, but it will only trigger an update if the maintainer updates the version of the package in the AUR. This is usually only done if something major changes that requires changes in the PKGBUILD. Every once in a while, you can do yaourt -Syua --devel. This will check each of the VCS packages you have installed to see if there's a new version of the actual source. If there is, it will rebuild; if not, it will just skip it. I'll give you a hint, there hasn't been any real change in EConnMan or Engage for months.

Last edited by Scimmia (2013-02-14 00:04:03)

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#16 2013-02-14 12:15:56

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Re: Some Enlightenment 0.17.1 questions/troubleshooting.

Thank you!
You have answered my question completely.

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