Xorg 6.9/7.0 RC2

Gullible Jones · 2005-11-12 19:41:24

w00t!

(Yep, I can't wait until the final version's released...)

dtw · 2005-11-12 22:06:54

Why? I mean, I barely noticed any differences after the last big upgrade - what's so great about this one?

Snowman · 2005-11-12 22:34:48

dibblethewrecker wrote:

Why? I mean, I barely noticed any differences after the last big upgrade

I did noticed a difference: my FPS doubled after the last big upgrade! 8)

dibblethewrecker wrote:

what's so great about this one?

This one is supposed to be modular. I don't know what benefits it will bring. I doubt that my FPS will double again.

nightfrost · 2005-11-13 14:43:06

dibblethewrecker wrote:

Why? I mean, I barely noticed any differences after the last big upgrade - what's so great about this one?

I also noticed, while running RC0, that translucency effects works at a decent speed (on my 855GM)

No one happens to have PKGBUILD hidden somewhere for this one, ey?
I would've written one myself, but I've never gotten wise on the build process of xorg..

Gullible Jones · 2005-11-13 19:28:19

Mandrake's already using 6.9.... Maybe it should be available in the Community repo?

Bralkein · 2005-11-14 17:55:34

I have tried to read about the differences between monolithic (6.9) and modular (7.0) X.org releases, and still I am confused.

Is it similar to the difference between an entirely monolithic kernel image and a kernel image with modules? If I have X.org 7.0 and there is some new development-version feature I am interested in trying out, would I be able to build just that module and install it in my current X.org instead of checking out a whole new X.org CVS? Is there some kind of performance/disk space gain from using a modular X.org? Or is this all really just for developers and distribution packagers to worry about, and will it have really no effect on me whatsoever?

nightfrost · 2005-11-14 18:02:20

I'm pretty sure the basic idea has been to make it easier for developers to contribute. It will be a lot easier for people to get into the code. As far as I understand this will not (at least by itself) imply any performance optimizations. Perhaps there will be disk gain though, as you might not need to install the drivers you don't need. But I'm not entirely sure.

Snowman · 2005-11-14 18:20:14

Have you read this: http://www.archlinux.org/blog/2005/11/0 … archlinux/ ?

nightfrost · 2005-11-14 18:49:40

I knew JGC wasn't a fan of the split up, but I'm not sure I entirely understand what he is planning for the new release. Does he mean that that Xorg will first install to /usr/X11R6, and after nvidia releases their drivers move the installation to /usr? Or does he mean that he'll use a symlink to start with?

Either case, I'm sure it's gonna be great. JGC's a great package maintainer

Snowman · 2005-11-14 19:57:44

What I have understood is that it will be install in /usr. The part about the nvidia drivers is that he will use differents parts (fonts, drivers, etc.) of 6.8, 6.9 and 7.0 to make one xorg package. I guess it is for backward compatibility. Then, he'll drop out the 6.8 stuff. :?

CyberTron · 2005-11-14 20:04:54

i think he mean like this:

it will be installed in /usr and there will be package groups instead of individual packages for every module ....in the beginning he will mix together the different trees (to keep some compatibility) and then try and fade out more and more when it Xorg gets more stable..

or am I misreading?

Snowman · 2005-11-14 23:47:28

CyberTron wrote:

i think he mean like this:
it will be installed in /usr and there will be package groups instead of individual packages for every module ....in the beginning he will mix together the different trees (to keep some compatibility) and then try and fade out more and more when it Xorg gets more stable..
or am I misreading?

No, I understood the same thing.

atze · 2005-11-15 20:31:00

is there any repo with xorg-cvs or xorg rc2? i really would like to use the dri extention for my savage card.

CyberTron · 2005-11-15 20:56:47

atze wrote:

is there any repo with xorg-cvs or xorg rc2? i really would like to use the dri extention for my savage card.

can'y you just activate dri in your xorg.conf?...seems alot easierthan instaöling a new Xserver

Gullible Jones · 2005-11-15 21:03:09

You can already. Use the snapshots from http://dri.freedesktop.org/snapshots - go into "archive" and get the most recent "commmon" and "savage" snapshots from this July (common-20050707 and savage-20050718). (The snapshots after that don't seem to work with XOrg 6.8.2, though I can't confirm that for anything other than the via drivers.)

Anyway, unzip the packages, cd into the dripkg dir they unpack into and run ./install as root. Then make a xorg.conf with hwd (or edit your old one). If you get any weird problems, switch to the VESA driver and refer to Dan Gray's xorg.conf file. If you used hwd to make xorg.conf, I think you should be fine already (though you might want to comment out the modeline stuff and set the UseBIOS option to "true" instead). If your monitor goes into power saving mode when you start X, set IgnoreEDID to "false" in the "Screen" secion, like so:

Subsection "Display"
Depth 16
Option "IgnoreEDID" "false"
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubsection

atze · 2005-11-15 21:03:29

there is no dri driver for my savage chip in the 6.8 series of Xorg, the 6.9 series has the dri driver

CyberTron · 2005-11-15 21:15:07

atze wrote:

there is no dri driver for my savage chip in the 6.8 series of Xorg, the 6.9 series has the dri driver

ah, ok, sorry, thought that it was "standard" in all drivers

Bralkein · 2005-11-16 00:48:18

Personally, I find the whole thing very strange. I am using kernel 2.6.14, which apparently contains a version of DRI that supports direct rendering for Radeon >9200. However, the current X.org does not support DRI for this chipset, so if I want to use it I must use an unstable version of X.org. Granted, I don't know much about programming this low-level, but it seems insane that the hardware acceleration is not abstracted to the point at which it is beyond the concern of the X Server.

xerverius · 2005-11-16 08:06:02

Does someone has pkgbuilds for Xorg 7.0? And is it in the new Xorg also possible to compile only the driver you need?

Gr. Xerverius

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#1 2005-11-12 19:41:24

Xorg 6.9/7.0 RC2

#2 2005-11-12 22:06:54

Re: Xorg 6.9/7.0 RC2

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Re: Xorg 6.9/7.0 RC2

#4 2005-11-13 14:43:06

Re: Xorg 6.9/7.0 RC2

#5 2005-11-13 19:28:19

Re: Xorg 6.9/7.0 RC2

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Re: Xorg 6.9/7.0 RC2

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