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#4901 2013-03-02 19:06:44

kaszak696
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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

PLANTROON wrote:

AMD cards are getting rly good nowadays, right?? Is there anything from AMD about legacy hd234k support ?

Their last release was a very polite 'f**k you' to users of old radeons users.


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#4902 2013-03-03 06:12:48

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

kaszak696 wrote:
PLANTROON wrote:

AMD cards are getting rly good nowadays, right?? Is there anything from AMD about legacy hd234k support ?

Their last release was a very polite 'f**k you' to old radeon users.

This sums it up.

But I will say, as someone who owns the HD 6870 for the past ~2 years.  The experience under Linux has gotten slightly better and better.  It used to be unbearable, and now it competes with nvidia very much so.  Radeon cards will give you more performance per dollar, but it used to be that their drivers were garbage.  I can't say that with a straight face now because I've enjoyed recent performance quite a bit.  There have been quirks, though.  If running a full screen game, the gui often freezes when you alt+tab out of a game.  I have a older nvidia system that does not do this.  There are also occasional graphical glitches you see with radeon over nvidia.  But this is all becoming less common.

-ak

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#4903 2013-03-03 18:41:49

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

deden wrote:
Unia wrote:

You could try running a standalone compositor (like xcompmgr or compton - cairo-compmgr always gave me trouble) in Fluxbox/Openbox/whatever standalone WM you have installed, just to see if it it is with compositing in general or just XFCE's compositor.

Good idea, I'll try and let you know about it.

So, I have tried and i have the same problem on FluxBox with xcompmgr that I have with XFCE and its compositor.

fgl_glxgears in window mode on fluxbox without xcompmgr

[deden@archlinux-salon ~]$ fgl_glxgears 
Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer
6964 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1392.800 FPS
7784 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1556.800 FPS
8454 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1690.800 FPS

fgl_glxgears in fullscreen mode on fluxbox without xcompmgr

[deden@archlinux-salon ~]$ fgl_glxgears 
Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer
7049 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1409.800 FPS
7367 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1473.400 FPS
7610 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1522.000 FPS

fgl_glxgears in window mode on fluxbox with xcompmgr

[deden@archlinux-salon ~]$ fgl_glxgears 
Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer
360 frames in 5.0 seconds = 72.000 FPS
474 frames in 5.0 seconds = 94.800 FPS
474 frames in 5.0 seconds = 94.800 FPS

fgl_glxgears in fullscreen mode on fluxbox with xcompmgr

[deden@archlinux-salon ~]$ fgl_glxgears 
Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer
145 frames in 5.0 seconds = 29.000 FPS
88 frames in 5.0 seconds = 17.600 FPS
88 frames in 5.0 seconds = 17.600 FPS
88 frames in 5.0 seconds = 17.600 FPS

The problem doesn't come from XFCE at all. To be continued.


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#4904 2013-03-04 22:28:09

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Phitherek_ wrote:

@Vi0LO: I think something has happened to your [catalyst] repo:

błąd:  nie udało się otworzyć pliku /var/lib/pacman/sync/catalyst.db: Unrecognized archive format
błąd:  nie udało się otworzyć pliku /var/lib/pacman/sync/catalyst.db: Unrecognized archive format
błąd:  nie udało się otworzyć pliku /var/lib/pacman/sync/catalyst.db: Unrecognized archive format
błąd:  nie udało się otworzyć pliku /var/lib/pacman/sync/catalyst.db: Unrecognized archive format
błąd:  nie udało się otworzyć pliku /var/lib/pacman/sync/catalyst.db: Unrecognized archive format
błąd:  nie udało się otworzyć pliku /var/lib/pacman/sync/catalyst.db: Unrecognized archive format

Ok, you should understand that, for the rest this is error: could not open a file.


I'm seeing this now too, and an -Syy doesn't help.  The site with the DB download now appears to be a link farm: http://apocalypsus.net/

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#4905 2013-03-04 22:52:39

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Don't you guys follow the news at all? https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 9#p1229999


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#4906 2013-03-05 16:28:13

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Unia wrote:

Don't you guys follow the news at all? https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 9#p1229999

Not to this thread, but I will now.  Thanks for the info.

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#4907 2013-03-07 10:59:38

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

A couple of bad news about xserver 1.14 which you may already know but it's still important ant worth to mention...

xserver 1.14 was released yesterday, and while it's not as pretty as many would like to see (no XWayland, no dynamic switching) it's coming with a new ABI and so it won't work with current catalysts.
Now this news would not be so bad if only ubuntu 13.04 would come with xserv 1.14. It turns out that upcoming ubu 13.04 will be served on xser 1.13, the reason of this move was described on phoronix as:

phoronix wrote:

The basis for this decision is the AMD Catalyst driver not being ready and, of course, Canonical's heavy focus now on phones and tablets. Bryce says, "the general interest of avoiding disrupting folks working on phone/tablet, we're going to hold off on uploading xserver to the archive for a month or two. We may end up skipping 1.14.0 entirely and wait for 1.14.1, but we'll see."

While Phoronix isn't providing more informations and is not quoting anyone's words about not-ready-catalyst (so it's easy to call it a fud since latelly amd has no problems with providing xserv support on time) the information about tablets/phone seems to be a true and could be the real reason.

Ubuntu seems to be a real show stopper latelly - not supporting Wayland, developing own display server (Mir), not providing latest software, huh...

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#4908 2013-03-07 20:55:38

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

I updated my pacman.conf as directed in Arch wiki and then added the GPG key with the following commands.

# pacman-key --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 0xabed422d653c3094
# pacman-key --lsign-key 0xabed422d653c3094

However, I still get the following error on :

 $ pacman -Syy
error GPGME error: No data
error GPGME error: No data
:: Synchronizing package database...
xorg112 is up to date
catalyst-hd234k is up to date
core is up to date
extra is up to date 
community is up to date
multilib is up to date
error: database 'xorg112' is not valid (invalid or corrupted database (PGP signature))
error: database 'catalyst-hd234k' is not valid (invalid or corrupted database (PGP signature))

Please help.

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#4909 2013-03-07 23:58:45

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Make sure you are using "catalyst.wirephire.com", then run "pacman -Syy".

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#4910 2013-03-08 14:16:48

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

I'm having similar errors. Using wirephire repo.

sudo pacman -Syu
error: xorg112: signature from "Vi0L0 <@gmail.com>" is invalid
:: Synchronizing package databases...
 xorg112 is up to date                0.0   B  0.00B/s 00:00 [c  o  o  o  o  o  o  o  o  o  o  ]   0%
 catalyst-hd234k is up to date
 core is up to date
 extra is up to date
 community is up to date
 multilib is up to date
error: database 'xorg112' is not valid (invalid or corrupted database (PGP signature))

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#4911 2013-03-08 18:51:30

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Radioactiveman wrote:

Make sure you are using "catalyst.wirephire.com", then run "pacman -Syy".

Here is my pacman.conf

#
# /etc/pacman.conf
#
# See the pacman.conf(5) manpage for option and repository directives

#
# GENERAL OPTIONS
#
[options]
# The following paths are commented out with their default values listed.
# If you wish to use different paths, uncomment and update the paths.
#RootDir     = /
#DBPath      = /var/lib/pacman/
#CacheDir    = /var/cache/pacman/pkg/
#LogFile     = /var/log/pacman.log
#GPGDir      = /etc/pacman.d/gnupg/
HoldPkg     = pacman glibc
# If upgrades are available for these packages they will be asked for first
SyncFirst   = pacman
#XferCommand = /usr/bin/curl -C - -f %u > %o
#XferCommand = /usr/bin/wget --passive-ftp -c -O %o %u
#CleanMethod = KeepInstalled
Architecture = auto

# Pacman won't upgrade packages listed in IgnorePkg and members of IgnoreGroup
#IgnorePkg   =
#IgnoreGroup =

#NoUpgrade   =
#NoExtract   =

# Misc options
#UseSyslog
#UseDelta
#TotalDownload
CheckSpace
#VerbosePkgLists

# By default, pacman accepts packages signed by keys that its local keyring
# trusts (see pacman-key and its man page), as well as unsigned packages.
#SigLevel = Optional TrustedOnly

# NOTE: You must run `pacman-key --init` before first using pacman; the local
# keyring can then be populated with the keys of all official Arch Linux
# packagers with `pacman-key --populate archlinux`.

#
# REPOSITORIES
#   - can be defined here or included from another file
#   - pacman will search repositories in the order defined here
#   - local/custom mirrors can be added here or in separate files
#   - repositories listed first will take precedence when packages
#     have identical names, regardless of version number
#   - URLs will have $repo replaced by the name of the current repo
#   - URLs will have $arch replaced by the name of the architecture
#
# Repository entries are of the format:
#       [repo-name]
#       Server = ServerName
#       Include = IncludePath
#
# The header [repo-name] is crucial - it must be present and
# uncommented to enable the repo.
#

# The testing repositories are disabled by default. To enable, uncomment the
# repo name header and Include lines. You can add preferred servers immediately
# after the header, and they will be used before the default mirrors.

#[testing]
#SigLevel = PackageRequired
#Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

[b][xorg112]
Server = http://catalyst.wirephire.com/repo/xorg112/$arch

[catalyst-hd234k]
Server = http://catalyst.wirephire.com/repo/catalyst-hd234k/$arch
[/b]
[core]
SigLevel = PackageRequired
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

[extra]
SigLevel = PackageRequired
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

#[community-testing]
#SigLevel = PackageRequired
#Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

[community]
SigLevel = PackageRequired
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

# If you want to run 32 bit applications on your x86_64 system,
# enable the multilib repositories as required here.

#[multilib-testing]
#SigLevel = PackageRequired
#Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

[multilib]
SigLevel = PackageRequired
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

# An example of a custom package repository.  See the pacman manpage for
# tips on creating your own repositories.
#[custom]
#SigLevel = Optional TrustAll
#Server = file:///home/custompkgs

EDIT: Strangely, I did a pacman -Syu and it worked well without any error. This is solved now.

Last edited by ravisghosh (2013-03-08 20:33:55)

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#4912 2013-03-08 20:39:24

Radioactiveman
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Posts: 376

Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Looks fine (without the [b ] tags of course).
Have you tried pacman -Syy?

man pacman:
"Passing two --refresh or -y flags will force a refresh of all package lists even if they appear to be up to date."

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#4913 2013-03-08 20:42:20

ravisghosh
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Posts: 516
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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Radioactiveman wrote:

Looks fine (without the [b ] tags of course).
Have you tried pacman -Syy?

man pacman:
"Passing two --refresh or -y flags will force a refresh of all package lists even if they appear to be up to date."

Precisely that's what worked. But I had tried that yesterday, and it wasn't working at all.

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#4914 2013-03-08 20:55:24

omeringen
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Posts: 109

Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

I guess there was an issue on server side, it works fine now.

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#4915 2013-03-09 01:42:23

jeremmm
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Registered: 2013-03-09
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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Hello,

I'm new to the forum and also with archlinux.

I have a problem with my two graphics cards 6870. They are not recognized when I do a fglrxinfo :

Error: unable to open display (null)

.

I followed the procedure that is in the wiki (xorg 1.12 and catalyst by Vi0L0).

I looked quickly xorg log and there are errors http://pastebin.com/u9TDmbrw

lsmod | grep fglrx
fglrx                5089921  121
amd_iommu_v2            7400  1 fglrx
button                  4670  1 fglrx

If someone has an idea.

Thanks

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#4916 2013-03-09 16:27:45

yell!
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Posts: 45

Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Hi,
I am sorry for posting this but I am encountering problems with wirephire.com repository.
I am getting this error: database file for 'xorg112' does not exist
and a timeout error.
Also for catalyst-hd234k.

I just installed Archlinux but without AMD legacy drivers my laptop burns big_smile (HD4200).
The server is simply down or I have to check something else than repository addresses in /etc/pacman.conf ?
Thank you for your time.

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#4917 2013-03-09 16:52:43

snack
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Registered: 2009-01-13
Posts: 673

Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

I just checked wirephire. It seems to be up and I got no problems in retrieving db and signatures for x86_64.

$ ping catalyst.wirephire.com
PING catalyst.wirephire.com (91.196.124.154) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from host124-154.superhosting.bg (91.196.124.154): icmp_seq=1 ttl=56 time=78.7 ms
64 bytes from host124-154.superhosting.bg (91.196.124.154): icmp_seq=2 ttl=56 time=78.5 ms
64 bytes from host124-154.superhosting.bg (91.196.124.154): icmp_seq=3 ttl=56 time=79.5 ms
^C
--- catalyst.wirephire.com ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2002ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 78.554/78.938/79.555/0.440 ms

$ sudo pacman -Syy
:: Synchronizing package databases...
 catalyst-hd234k                                                                      6,3 KiB   750K/s 00:00 [################################################################] 100%
 catalyst-hd234k.sig                                                                287,0   B  2,99K/s 00:00 [################################################################] 100%
 xorg112                                                                             11,5 KiB  1037K/s 00:00 [################################################################] 100%
 xorg112.sig                                                                        287,0   B  2,91K/s 00:00 [################################################################] 100%
 repo-ck                                                                             39,3 KiB  95,9K/s 00:00 [################################################################] 100%
 core                                                                               105,1 KiB   614K/s 00:00 [################################################################] 100%
 extra                                                                             1412,4 KiB   643K/s 00:02 [################################################################] 100%
 community                                                                         1929,3 KiB   713K/s 00:03 [################################################################] 100%
 multilib                                                                            95,7 KiB   571K/s 00:00 [################################################################] 100%

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#4918 2013-03-09 17:18:15

yell!
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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

thanks
I miss to insert Vi0l0 gpg keys. Doing it right now.

edit: still doesn't work, same errors:

$ sudo pacman -Syy
 
attenzione: database file for 'xorg112' does not exist
attenzione: database file for 'catalyst-hd234k' does not exist
:: Sincronizzazione dei database in corso...
errore: impossibile scaricare il pacchetto 'xorg112.db' da catalyst.wirephire.com : Resolving timed out after 10000 milliseconds
errore: impossibile aggiornare xorg112 (si è verificato un errore della libreria di download)
errore: impossibile scaricare il pacchetto 'catalyst-hd234k.db' da catalyst.wirephire.com : Resolving timed out after 10000 milliseconds
errore: impossibile aggiornare catalyst-hd234k (si è verificato un errore della libreria di download)
 core                     105,1 KiB   125K/s 00:01 [######################] 100%
 extra                   1412,3 KiB   412K/s 00:03 [######################] 100%
 community               1929,3 KiB   443K/s 00:04 [######################] 100%
 multilib                  95,7 KiB   116K/s 00:01 [######################] 100%

sorry for partial italian output.

Last edited by yell! (2013-03-09 17:25:06)

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#4919 2013-03-09 17:21:29

snack
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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

@yell!: it seems a timeout problem. Try to ping catalyst.wirephire.com or open this link:

http://catalyst.wirephire.com/repo/

in your web browser.

Last edited by snack (2013-03-09 17:21:50)

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#4920 2013-03-09 17:27:09

yell!
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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

snack wrote:

@yell!: it seems a timeout problem. Try to ping catalyst.wirephire.com or open this link:

http://catalyst.wirephire.com/repo/

in your web browser.

it's the first thing that I did but ping works
I can also open the url on my browser.

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#4921 2013-03-09 17:35:08

snack
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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

yell! wrote:
snack wrote:

@yell!: it seems a timeout problem. Try to ping catalyst.wirephire.com or open this link:

http://catalyst.wirephire.com/repo/

in your web browser.

it's the first thing that I did but ping works
I can also open the url on my browser.

AFAIK, pacman uses curl to retrieve files from the net. Try to download directly the database file with curl:

$ curl -O http://catalyst.wirephire.com/repo/catalyst-hd234k/x86_64/catalyst-hd234k.db

Try for i686 if you are on a 32 bit system.

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#4922 2013-03-09 17:56:07

ravisghosh
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Registered: 2006-10-12
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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

yell! wrote:

Hi,
I am sorry for posting this but I am encountering problems with wirephire.com repository.
I am getting this error: database file for 'xorg112' does not exist
and a timeout error.
Also for catalyst-hd234k.

I just installed Archlinux but without AMD legacy drivers my laptop burns big_smile (HD4200).
The server is simply down or I have to check something else than repository addresses in /etc/pacman.conf ?
Thank you for your time.

I was having the trouble and it got solved yesterday on its own. Not sure how to solve, but just my 2 cents - I found that Arch was best for HD345k series graphic cards. I have a similar card and I found Arch to be best supported compared to Ubuntu, Fedora.

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#4923 2013-03-09 18:49:01

yell!
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Registered: 2011-05-16
Posts: 45

Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

snack wrote:

AFAIK, pacman uses curl to retrieve files from the net. Try to download directly the database file with curl:

$ curl -O http://catalyst.wirephire.com/repo/catalyst-hd234k/x86_64/catalyst-hd234k.db

works. :!

ravisghosh wrote:

I was having the trouble and it got solved yesterday on its own. Not sure how to solve, but just my 2 cents - I found that Arch was best for HD345k series graphic cards. I have a similar card and I found Arch to be best supported compared to Ubuntu, Fedora.

I hope that the problem vanishes itself because I don't know what to look toward.

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#4924 2013-03-09 21:36:20

snack
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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

@yell!: let's see if it is a problem with your cached pacman data. Try to remove catalyst repo entries from you pacman.conf, then pacman -Syy and pacman -Scc (this will delete all your pacman cache). Then add again catalyst entries to pacman.conf and pacman -Syy.

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#4925 2013-03-09 21:38:41

snack
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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

xorg-server 1.14 hit [testing]. I'm afraid that catalyst-dkms is going to be purged from official repos, since Ubuntu 13.04 is going to be shipped with xorg-server 1.13, thus meaning that catalyst support for 1.14 could be aeons away...

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