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#4926 2013-03-09 22:09:46

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

snack wrote:

xorg-server 1.14 hit [testing]. I'm afraid that catalyst-dkms is going to be purged from official repos, since Ubuntu 13.04 is going to be shipped with xorg-server 1.13, thus meaning that catalyst support for 1.14 could be aeons away...

We'll have to wait and see, I don't think there was any outcome on the question what would be done if this would happen.


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#4927 2013-03-10 00:05:55

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Unia wrote:
snack wrote:

xorg-server 1.14 hit [testing]. I'm afraid that catalyst-dkms is going to be purged from official repos, since Ubuntu 13.04 is going to be shipped with xorg-server 1.13, thus meaning that catalyst support for 1.14 could be aeons away...

We'll have to wait and see, I don't think there was any outcome on the question what would be done if this would happen.

Yes, I remember... but I also remember that the original decision to remove catalyst from official repos was made to be able to roll out xorg-server and kernel upgrades without having to wait AMD to release a compatible version of catalyst (which used to take some months, at that time). It seems to me that, as one could easily guess given that AMD is the same old AMD, we are more or less back to that situation. And I fear that the outcome could be the same...

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#4928 2013-03-10 00:33:24

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

That's a very plausible outcome, yes. However, we still have Vi0L0 with his excellent work! wink


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#4929 2013-03-10 06:44:27

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

snack wrote:

@yell!: let's see if it is a problem with your cached pacman data. Try to remove catalyst repo entries from you pacman.conf, then pacman -Syy and pacman -Scc (this will delete all your pacman cache). Then add again catalyst entries to pacman.conf and pacman -Syy.

Thanks. Unfortunately it didn't work sad

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#4930 2013-03-10 09:48:49

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

yell! wrote:
snack wrote:

@yell!: let's see if it is a problem with your cached pacman data. Try to remove catalyst repo entries from you pacman.conf, then pacman -Syy and pacman -Scc (this will delete all your pacman cache). Then add again catalyst entries to pacman.conf and pacman -Syy.

Thanks. Unfortunately it didn't work sad

Then I have absolutely no idea, sorry... sad

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#4931 2013-03-10 15:36:14

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Hello.i have this problem here : https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 8#p1242378

I already posted it on this thread before but since i was not entirely sure if it was a amd issue i posted it on another thread i made...but now xD i'am sure it is a amd issue..someone can help me in this issue without giving me the "turn off effects solution"? Many thanks ^^

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#4932 2013-03-10 16:12:58

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Finally I'm using catalyst legacy drivers for my HD4200.
But... catalyst with xorg1.12 does not work sad I get a black screen, I can only shutdown my laptop.
With xorg1.11 it works but I need 1.12 for my synaptic clickpad: synaptics drivers in 1.12 are fully working instead of 1.11.
Anyone here knows why or how xorg 1.12 is not supported?
I HATE AMD.
Unfortunately I have no money to buy an AMD-free laptop. I'm going insane.

snack wrote:

Then I have absolutely no idea, sorry... sad

It was a DNS problem. Don't know why. I put my home router nameservers (I use google ones) into resolv.conf and all is working now. hmm

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#4933 2013-03-10 16:14:36

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

yell! wrote:

Anyone here knows why or how xorg 1.12 is not supported?

xorg 1.12 is supported by the legacy-drivers for a long time.

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#4934 2013-03-10 16:18:10

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

I know, for this reason I re-installed linux on my pc. I am sorry, I wrote a bad sentence.
But on my laptop it does not work. I am reading about acpi issues but I am too noobie to understand.

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#4935 2013-03-10 16:37:03

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

yell! wrote:

Finally I'm using catalyst legacy drivers for my HD4200.
But... catalyst with xorg1.12 does not work sad I get a black screen, I can only shutdown my laptop.
With xorg1.11 it works but I need 1.12 for my synaptic clickpad: synaptics drivers in 1.12 are fully working instead of 1.11.
Anyone here knows why or how xorg 1.12 is not supported?

I don't have a solution but I can confirm your issue.

My desktop machine has a Radeon HD 4200 (motherboard IGP) and works fine with latest Catalyst 13.1 [Legacy] + xorg-server 1.12.

The damn laptop with the same card only works with xorg-server 1.11; with 1.12 it will hang on X startup (blank screen, X using 100% CPU). And it also can't resume from suspend-to-ram when using recent kernels in combination with the fglrx driver, so I'm stuck with linux-lts as well. >.>

I have searched for hours in the past, and tried several things to solve this but it always kept hanging on X startup so I gave up.

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#4936 2013-03-10 17:04:37

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Hi everyone sorry tried and searched everything i have an amd  6950 card and 8 g of ram with unofficial drivers im getting 10 fps on WOW i have it running in OpenGL and have the regedit mod done the drivers are the very latest from ViOLO anyone have any idea im tearing my hair out thankyou .

also deleted WTF and cache etc sad

If i am in wrong section i appologise please move this.

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#4937 2013-03-10 17:41:34

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

foutrelis wrote:
yell! wrote:

Finally I'm using catalyst legacy drivers for my HD4200.
But... catalyst with xorg1.12 does not work sad I get a black screen, I can only shutdown my laptop.
With xorg1.11 it works but I need 1.12 for my synaptic clickpad: synaptics drivers in 1.12 are fully working instead of 1.11.
Anyone here knows why or how xorg 1.12 is not supported?

I don't have a solution but I can confirm your issue.

My desktop machine has a Radeon HD 4200 (motherboard IGP) and works fine with latest Catalyst 13.1 [Legacy] + xorg-server 1.12.

The damn laptop with the same card only works with xorg-server 1.11; with 1.12 it will hang on X startup (blank screen, X using 100% CPU). And it also can't resume from suspend-to-ram when using recent kernels in combination with the fglrx driver, so I'm stuck with linux-lts as well. >.>

I have searched for hours in the past, and tried several things to solve this but it always kept hanging on X startup so I gave up.

Thank you for your feedback.

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#4938 2013-03-10 22:34:42

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

According to arch-dev-public, catalyst is going to be removed from official repos...

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#4939 2013-03-11 02:01:38

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Ah, well, it was great while the up to date xorg support lasted, ive always used catalyst-total from the aur, but its annoying having to ignore xorg updates for the foreseeable future.

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#4940 2013-03-11 08:02:14

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Roukoswarf wrote:

Ah, well, it was great while the up to date xorg support lasted, ive always used catalyst-total from the aur, but its annoying having to ignore xorg updates for the foreseeable future.

I'm sure Vi0l0 will set up an xorg113 repo soon, so it will be sufficient for you to put it at the top of repo list in /etc/pacman.conf, and you won't have to bother with ignored packages. Yes, you'll have to stay with 1.13, but you could do it in a very clean way (I'm still on 1.12 with legacy drivers without any issues nor mess in config files).

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#4941 2013-03-11 08:43:01

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

snack wrote:
Roukoswarf wrote:

Ah, well, it was great while the up to date xorg support lasted, ive always used catalyst-total from the aur, but its annoying having to ignore xorg updates for the foreseeable future.

I'm sure Vi0l0 will set up an xorg113 repo soon

I did it on saturday, also placed note about that fact on the wiki.

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#4942 2013-03-13 16:28:08

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/e … linux.aspx

maybe it was posted...

13.3 is out! (afaik it should works on non-embedded systems too)

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#4943 2013-03-13 18:36:32

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Hello,

I'm using the latest Catalyst 13.2 beta 7 from the custom [catalyst] repo and I cannot set the brightness anymore hmm
I've tried everything : Fn keys, echo 0 > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness, none of them works...
Sometimes (after mashing the previous command for a while) the brightness decrease but it's totally random.

If this is important, I'm on a laptop, running Arch x64, under XFCE4, with the automatic "login to X" (so no GDM/KDM/Slim/lightDM...).
My CPU is an AMD A6-3420 (1.5Ghz quad-core), with a discrete Radeon HD 7650M card.

With the stable release (13.2), the brightness was working as expected, but I'd had really really bad Kernel Panics on shutdown and reboot, and also my laptop wouldn't resume from suspend (to ram) correctly (black screen).

$ lspci | grep VGA
00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI BeaverCreek [Radeon HD 6520G]
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Thames XT/GL [Radeon HD 7600M Series] (rev ff)
[organ@Wormhole ~]$ cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/actual_brightness 
0
[organ@Wormhole ~]$ cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness 
0
[organ@Wormhole ~]$ cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/max_brightness 
10

^----- My brightness is at max setting right now, although as you can see it should be "0".

Has anyone experienced the same issue ?

Thank you smile

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#4944 2013-03-13 19:33:05

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

MadNoob wrote:

http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/e … linux.aspx

maybe it was posted...

13.3 is out! (afaik it should works on non-embedded systems too)

Naaah, embedded is useless tongue


@Organ:
it's well known betas problem. If you want you can post a bug report or add the note to existing one ie: http://ati.cchtml.com/buglist.cgi?query … brightness

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#4945 2013-03-13 23:12:17

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

MadNoob wrote:

13.3 is out! (afaik it should works on non-embedded systems too)

Someone at reddit tested it and had a massive fps-drop. You can try it, too. :-)

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#4946 2013-03-14 05:08:42

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Organ wrote:

Hello,

I'm using the latest Catalyst 13.2 beta 7 from the custom [catalyst] repo and I cannot set the brightness anymore hmm
I've tried everything : Fn keys, echo 0 > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness, none of them works...
Sometimes (after mashing the previous command for a while) the brightness decrease but it's totally random.

If this is important, I'm on a laptop, running Arch x64, under XFCE4, with the automatic "login to X" (so no GDM/KDM/Slim/lightDM...).
My CPU is an AMD A6-3420 (1.5Ghz quad-core), with a discrete Radeon HD 7650M card.

With the stable release (13.2), the brightness was working as expected, but I'd had really really bad Kernel Panics on shutdown and reboot, and also my laptop wouldn't resume from suspend (to ram) correctly (black screen).

$ lspci | grep VGA
00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI BeaverCreek [Radeon HD 6520G]
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Thames XT/GL [Radeon HD 7600M Series] (rev ff)
[organ@Wormhole ~]$ cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/actual_brightness 
0
[organ@Wormhole ~]$ cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness 
0
[organ@Wormhole ~]$ cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/max_brightness 
10

^----- My brightness is at max setting right now, although as you can see it should be "0".

Has anyone experienced the same issue ?

Thank you smile

Try using catalyst 12.8. Its the last good driver for my dual 6755g2
No segfaults on shutdown and brightness changes work.

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#4947 2013-03-14 11:21:53

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Anon11 wrote:

Try using catalyst 12.8. Its the last good driver for my dual 6755g2
No segfaults on shutdown and brightness changes work.

Anon have you tried 13.3? is still bugged with shutdown segmentation fault when integrated GPU is active?


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#4948 2013-03-14 12:28:28

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

IVIonty wrote:
Anon11 wrote:

Try using catalyst 12.8. Its the last good driver for my dual 6755g2
No segfaults on shutdown and brightness changes work.

Anon have you tried 13.3? is still bugged with shutdown segmentation fault when integrated GPU is active?

There is no 13.3 driver, only the embedded and that one doesn't help.

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#4949 2013-03-14 12:30:13

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

IVIonty wrote:
Anon11 wrote:

Try using catalyst 12.8. Its the last good driver for my dual 6755g2
No segfaults on shutdown and brightness changes work.

Anon have you tried 13.3? is still bugged with shutdown segmentation fault when integrated GPU is active?

No, now i will keep 12.8 for some time as it works. Wanted to try 13.* for TF but now i got some work piled up and dont want to mess too much.

AMD seems to be so slow in solving stuff. I don't update windows/linux drivers now cause everytime they break something.
And i hear Nvidia dropped support for kernel 2.4!  recently.

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#4950 2013-03-14 15:46:25

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Anon11 wrote:
IVIonty wrote:
Anon11 wrote:

Try using catalyst 12.8. Its the last good driver for my dual 6755g2
No segfaults on shutdown and brightness changes work.

Anon have you tried 13.3? is still bugged with shutdown segmentation fault when integrated GPU is active?

No, now i will keep 12.8 for some time as it works. Wanted to try 13.* for TF but now i got some work piled up and dont want to mess too much.

AMD seems to be so slow in solving stuff. I don't update windows/linux drivers now cause everytime they break something.
And i hear Nvidia dropped support for kernel 2.4!  recently.

True... I hope that Steam and linux gaming in general will make the proprietary GPUs support better. At this moment only Intel truly supports his graphical chips under linux...


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