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#1 2013-03-22 13:45:30

adwaita45
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[SOLVED] How to install a terminal without a terminal?

I have somehow managed to uninstall all my terminal emulators.When I try to run xterm from the applications menu in mate I get

Could not launch xterm Failed to execute child process "xterm" (No such file or directory)

. Also, if I try to use a tty using 'Ctrl + Alt + F1' etc all I get is a blank screen.
So, I would like to know if there is a way to install xterm again.

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#2 2013-03-22 13:48:05

drcouzelis
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Re: [SOLVED] How to install a terminal without a terminal?

Use Ctrl + Alt + F2?

Log out of X?

Boot into a live Arch Linux CD and arch-chroot to victory?

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#3 2013-03-22 13:52:15

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Re: [SOLVED] How to install a terminal without a terminal?

use a runner
login as root (to avoid the sudo prompt) on kde, press Alt-f2 (by default), and enter
pacman -Sy konsole

done!

pd: haven't tried it, but cannot think any reason why it wouldn't work.
pd2: also, i'm pretty sure you can unistall terminal clients, but i'm also pretty sure you still have a bash prompt somewhere

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#4 2013-03-22 13:54:46

lesto
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Re: [SOLVED] How to install a terminal without a terminal?

xterm is the terminal emulator for Xorg, so it use the GUI.

I don't know if is possible delete all terminal from the system, i think the basic terminal have dependencies with the core.

So the problem is all your tty are GUI related (BAD! leave at least one of them as text-only).

Actually you can solve this by booting linux in the runlevel 3 (no GUI) just by editing your boot and adding a final 3 on the "kernel" string.

This procedure vary from bootloader to bootloader, but can be done "on the fly" without using live cd or other "trick"

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#5 2013-03-22 14:05:59

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Re: [SOLVED] How to install a terminal without a terminal?

How will you interface with the system without a terminal? Bizzare.


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#6 2013-03-22 14:58:12

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Re: [SOLVED] How to install a terminal without a terminal?

In addition to all of the above, ssh into the box.


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#7 2013-03-22 15:31:32

adwaita45
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Re: [SOLVED] How to install a terminal without a terminal?

chroot did the trick! Thank you everyone smile

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#8 2013-03-22 17:53:23

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Re: [SOLVED] How to install a terminal without a terminal?

A related question. Just for curiosity and to learn.

I don't understand why the CTRL+ALT+FX tty's don't work in this case. Are they xterm? I always have though that they are indeed text virtual consoles by default, and that "xterm" was the name for a terminal window: terminal emulator for X to use the terminal from a GUI. Isn't it?

Somebody mentioned

lesto wrote:

So the problem is all your tty are GUI related (BAD! leave at least one of them as text-only).

It this even possible? I mean, without having to go through a complex set of steps that probably require you to know what you're doing?

Regards,

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#9 2013-03-22 19:28:00

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Re: [SOLVED] How to install a terminal without a terminal?

X terminal emulators are completely separate from agetty, which runs (or 'runs on') the tty. DE dependencies aside, I suppose it's easy to have some kind of graphical environment installed, but no terminal emulator.

In the initscripts days you could easily disable ttys through inittab. Presumably you could disable all but one for X. Don't know if it's possible under systemd.

It could just be that the OP encountered a bug, or graphical issues with KMS/framebuffer/etc.


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#10 2013-03-22 21:41:23

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Re: [SOLVED] How to install a terminal without a terminal?

There is no seperate *getty package installed per default anymore. It seems to be part of systemd now. I could only think of a bad configuration or maybe a forced removal of bash.

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#11 2013-03-23 00:00:15

lesto
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Re: [SOLVED] How to install a terminal without a terminal?

Nico666 wrote:

A related question. Just for curiosity and to learn.
I mean, without having to go through a complex set of steps that probably require you to know what you're doing?

Regards,

well, basically it is as easy as editing one text file. Practically you have to pay attention at what you do, as always smile

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#12 2013-03-23 10:30:59

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Re: [SOLVED] How to install a terminal without a terminal?

Awebb wrote:

There is no seperate *getty package installed per default anymore. It seems to be part of systemd now. I could only think of a bad configuration or maybe a forced removal of bash.

# find / -name *getty
/sbin/agetty
/var/abs/community/fbgetty
/var/abs/community/mingetty
#
pacman -Qo /sbin/agetty
/sbin/agetty is owned by util-linux 2.22.2-2
# 

Nope, not part of systemd.


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#13 2013-03-24 00:14:43

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Re: [SOLVED] How to install a terminal without a terminal?

Oh, thanks Lone_Wolf.

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