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#101 2005-11-23 19:38:07

waldek_a
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From: Munich, Germany
Registered: 2005-04-19
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Re: [kernel] 2.6.14 : IMPORTANT CHANGES - upgraders please read

Hi!
I've just tried to upgrade from 2.6.13 (stock) to 2.6.14.2-1 and I got following error messages:

[waldek@wolfblade etc]$ sudo pacman -S kernel26

Targets: mkinitrd-1.01-16 kernel26-2.6.14.2-1

Total Package Size:   16.8 MB

Proceed with upgrade? [Y/n] y

checking package integrity... done.
loading package data... done.
checking for file conflicts...
error: the following file conflicts were found:
  kernel26: /boot/System.map26: exists in filesystem
  kernel26: /boot/kconfig26: exists in filesystem
  kernel26: /boot/vmlinuz26: exists in filesystem


errors occurred, no packages were upgraded.


I know they exist, they should I guess.

the upgrade from 2.6.14-1 to 2.6.14.2-1 works fine (I have it on VMware when I'm testing stuff). Any ideas? I could not find any entries from people having the same problem so either you go from 2.6.14-1 to 2.6.14.2-1 or I messed up my system somehow (I can't imagine how though). I cannot imagine even I can screw up "pacman -S kernel26' Any ideas?

cheers

waldek

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#102 2005-11-23 20:06:46

Richie
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From: Leverkusen, Germany
Registered: 2003-12-10
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Re: [kernel] 2.6.14 : IMPORTANT CHANGES - upgraders please read

Simply force it.  :twisted:

(Maybe you compiled your own kernel? Whatever, forcing should do the trick.)

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#103 2005-11-23 20:12:02

waldek_a
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Re: [kernel] 2.6.14 : IMPORTANT CHANGES - upgraders please read

I'm running the original 2.6.13 from the current repo. I know I can force it but I prefere to wait till 2.6.14 goes to the current - if nobody reports the same problem then I'll force it.

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#104 2005-11-24 10:21:18

waldek_a
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Re: [kernel] 2.6.14 : IMPORTANT CHANGES - upgraders please read

It seems there's a difference between:

pacman -S packagename

and

pacman -Su

the later one, besides of upgrading the system, removes the package first, the former one does not. It would work with "-Su" but I don't want to upgrade kde (I know I could flag it wiyh NoUpgrade but I'd rather be able to selectively upgrade packages).
Anyway I renamed the kernel 2.6.13 and updated grub, renamed two other files as well, I was told the kernel will work without them and it does. The installed the new one with "-S packagename".
Force would help but now I know the reason (at least I hope so).

cheers

wadlek

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#105 2005-11-28 18:54:13

MartinZ
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From: Chiloé, Chile
Registered: 2005-06-10
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Re: [kernel] 2.6.14 : IMPORTANT CHANGES - upgraders please read

rdoggsv wrote:

to stop from loading a lot of modules i did what u said about lshwd | grep IDE and its output was this

00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies|VT82C586 IDE [Apollo] (snd_via82xx)


so then i went to the mkinitrd.conf file and put it on the host controller ide , then i rebooted and *boom* im stuck after some messages.

so i started with some live cd and chrooted the enviroment and deleted the snd_via82xx module.

the rebooted back to my arch linux and i noticed that on the loaded modules was one that say via82cxxx so i put this instead. Then rebooted to the arhclinux and it worked fine with this addition.

So i just wanted to recall that lshwd | grep IDE didnt worked for me and lets hope anothers dont fall into this.

I had same problem. Unfortunelly, i read it after my computer couldn't start.
Instead of lshwd, i tried then tpowa's beautiful tool:

hwdetect --show-ide

...and got this

IDE    : ide-cd ide-core ide-disk generic via82cxxx

So, i would suggest to change the wiki from lshwd to hwdetect. I guess it detects devices better than hwd.


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#106 2005-11-28 19:03:40

MartinZ
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Re: [kernel] 2.6.14 : IMPORTANT CHANGES - upgraders please read

I already added some lines to the wiki explaining hwdetect stuff.


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#107 2005-12-05 16:05:23

phrakture
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Registered: 2003-10-29
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Re: [kernel] 2.6.14 : IMPORTANT CHANGES - upgraders please read

MartinZ wrote:

I already added some lines to the wiki explaining hwdetect stuff.

don't change it - hwd is still a valid app, and just because hwdetect is "better"  doesn't mean you should remove hwd - just write a new page.

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#108 2005-12-21 11:01:59

Susu
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Re: [kernel] 2.6.14 : IMPORTANT CHANGES - upgraders please read

I have a dvd-rom (hdc) and a dvd burner (hdd) and encountered strange behaviour when trying to mount a dvd-rw. With the dvd-rom it's just working fine, mounts correctly and shows the content, but mounting with the burner just don't work (neither does blanking). I tried that both with a custom kernel (2.6.14) and the latest Arch kernel (2.6.14-4) with initrd. It's been maybe two months since I'd burned or mounted a dvd-rw so I'm not sure if its working with kernel versions 2.6.13-x. The custom kernel has ide-cd compiled into the kernel while the Arch kernel loads the needed modules just fine. The dvd-rw was burned with the same burner I'm now trying to mount it with, and I could mount it with the burner before (as I said it's been a while). I tried to burn a regular data cd this morning and it was working so I'm positive to say the burner is definetely not broken.

Does anybody have similar problems? I don't know if it's a kernel thing or maybe a problem of udev and/or hal/dbus. If it's of any interest I tried with module autoloading (rc.conf) and with hwd. I missed out trying with hotplug but can do this late this night...

Susu


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#109 2005-12-22 22:44:27

scarecrow
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Registered: 2004-11-18
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Re: [kernel] 2.6.14 : IMPORTANT CHANGES - upgraders please read

My biggest issue is my SCSI CD-ROM...
It did work with -archck kernel, and it IS present with the current one. BUT it's only at /dev/scd0 (while udev expects a SCSI CD-ROM to a place like /dev/sg0, where there's no valid device- although the node does exist), and so some applications (= K3B ) do not see the device at all, and more than that it can't be added by k3bsetup.
Another annoyance is that xsane now sees my (USB) scanner only as root, but I guess I will find a way out for that...
Maybe it's the only package from testing I have ( udev 0.78-1) the one to blame.
Of course I can still return to -archck, but the new kernel is noticeably faster.


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#110 2005-12-23 12:45:14

iphitus
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Re: [kernel] 2.6.14 : IMPORTANT CHANGES - upgraders please read

scarecrow: modprobe sg

that will make the /dev/sgX devices.

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#111 2005-12-23 15:40:39

scarecrow
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Re: [kernel] 2.6.14 : IMPORTANT CHANGES - upgraders please read

iphitus wrote:

scarecrow: modprobe sg

that will make the /dev/sgX devices.

Thanks for the tip, but I had already tried it- but still no valid sgx devices.

My etc/udev/rules.d/00.rules file is pretty straightforward:

BUS="usb", SYSFS{serial}="614714000042", KERNEL="sd?1", NAME="%k", SYMLINK="usbdrive", GROUP="storage"
BUS="usb", SYSFS{serial}="A12000043431", KERNEL="sd?1", NAME="%k", SYMLINK="usbhd", GROUP="storage"
BUS="scsi", KERNEL=="sg[0-9]*", SYSFS{type}=="5", NAME="%k", GROUP="optical"

The first two (pendrive and external harddrive, respectively) work fine, the last one not. CD media inserted in the drive mount fine, provided that I keep a /dev/scd0 entry in fstab, but that's all I can do...
Is udev 0.78 problematic, or am I missing something?
Do I need inserting a device serial for the SCSI CD-ROM?


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