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#1 2013-03-29 09:07:23

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[SOLVED] Problem with X Server

Hey guys
I found 4 repositories for Xorg. One of them was mesa and another on was nvidia-340xx-utils (because of GeForce 610).
I have an NVIDIA OPTIMUS laptop and as you know my first GPU is Intel and the second one is NVIDIA.
Which one is better and works as dream with bumblebee and Intel GPU?!
I mean if I install Xorg with nvidia-utils, it will NOT break my system, will it (will work with Intel GPU, won't it)?
Thanks

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#2 2013-03-29 09:46:15

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Re: [SOLVED] Problem with X Server

4 repositories? There is just one official repository for xorg packages - Arch's [extra], which is enabled by default on your system.

For Optimus info, try the wiki's Bumblebee page.

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#3 2013-03-29 15:53:11

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Re: [SOLVED] Problem with X Server

tomk wrote:

4 repositories? There is just one official repository for xorg packages - Arch's [extra], which is enabled by default on your system.

For Optimus info, try the wiki's Bumblebee page.

pacman gave me these options:

#pacman -S xorg-server xorg-xinit xorg-server-utils xorg-utils
resolving dependencies
::There are 4 providers available for libgl:
::Repository extra:
1)mesa-libgl        2)nvidia-304xx-utils        3)nvidia-utils
::Repository community
4)catalyst-utils

Is there anyone who saw it and could help me! I used to use mesa-libgl but I don't know if I install nvidia-304xx-utils, everything going to be OK?

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#4 2013-03-29 15:59:42

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Re: [SOLVED] Problem with X Server

First, that is not the X server, that is libgl.  Second, those are not 4 repositories, those are 4 packages in the [extra] repository.

Clear descriptions can be hard until you learn about how arch works - so start by posting the actual output you recieve as you've now done in your second post.

When you install nvidia-304xx-utils, it will (should) let you know that the two packages conflict, and it will ask if you want to remove mesa-libgl.  If you do, simply say yes.


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#5 2013-03-29 16:18:05

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Re: [SOLVED] Problem with X Server

Trilby wrote:

First, that is not the X server, that is libgl.  Second, those are not 4 repositories, those are 4 packages in the [extra] repository.

Clear descriptions can be hard until you learn about how arch works - so start by posting the actual output you recieve as you've now done in your second post.

When you install nvidia-304xx-utils, it will (should) let you know that the two packages conflict, and it will ask if you want to remove mesa-libgl.  If you do, simply say yes.

WOW... Okay next time I'll try to ask better... You're right...

But I don't know if I install nvidia-304xx-utils my first GPU (Intel 4000) works correctly or not.
Because as you know first graphical processor on Optimus laptops is Intel and the second one is NVIDIA.
Am I clear or not?

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#6 2013-03-29 16:34:54

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Re: [SOLVED] Problem with X Server

Have you read the bumblebee wiki page yet?

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#7 2013-03-29 16:53:44

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Re: [SOLVED] Problem with X Server

tomk wrote:

Have you read the bumblebee wiki page yet?

Yes
A couple of time.
Maybe twice...
What do you mean?

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#8 2013-03-29 18:56:33

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Re: [SOLVED] Problem with X Server

And one another point:
I'm between installation Arch.
Today I want to remove and install it again.
But the last time I want to install nvidia-304xx-utils it told me that I have to remove mesa-libgl. ==> and my answer to tomk is YES.

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#9 2013-03-29 19:27:30

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Re: [SOLVED] Problem with X Server

Trilby wrote:

When you install nvidia-304xx-utils, it will (should) let you know that the two packages conflict, and it will ask if you want to remove mesa-libgl.  If you do, simply say yes.

Known wrote:

But the last time I want to install nvidia-304xx-utils it told me that I have to remove mesa-libgl.


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#10 2013-03-29 20:32:16

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Re: [SOLVED] Problem with X Server

No, it's not working...
I've installed nvidia-304xx-utils and xorg. But after that when I want to install xf86-video-intel and lib32-intel-dri it says I have to remove nvidia-304xx-utils...
Maybe it's better Nouveau instead of NVIDIA proprietary driver...!

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#11 2013-03-29 23:08:23

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Re: [SOLVED] Problem with X Server

For an easier setup it's better to use both opensource drivers, because of dependencies, that will work out-of-box by installing the needed packages from arch repositories. The only downside is that nouveau performance in really behind nvidia's proprietary drivers.

If you want the best graphic performance you will need to use the nvidia proprietary drivers, but be in mind that the nvidia packages from arch repositories won't work with bumblebee. If you read the wiki with attention you will find that you must install packages from AUR for it to work.

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#12 2013-03-29 23:28:45

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Re: [SOLVED] Problem with X Server

Known wrote:
tomk wrote:

Have you read the bumblebee wiki page yet?

Yes
A couple of time.
Maybe twice...
What do you mean?

Glad you asked. Here's what I mean:

bumblebee wiki page wrote:

Warning: Don't install the original nvidia-utils with Bumblebee - it will break your system!
Install the special nvidia package nvidia-utils-bumblebee for bumblebee from AUR.

As you haven't made any reference at all to nvidia-utils-bumblebee, it seemed reasonable to ask if you had actually read the wiki page.

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#13 2013-03-29 23:52:02

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tomk wrote:

As you haven't made any reference at all to nvidia-utils-bumblebee, it seemed reasonable to ask if you had actually read the wiki page.

Thank you
I think it's better to use Nouveau instead of Nvidia proprietary driver couse if I try my best and install Nvidia successfully maybe I have some problem after.
And as s1ln7m4s7r wrote:

s1ln7m4s7r wrote:

For an easier setup it's better to use both opensource drivers, because of dependencies, that will work out-of-box by installing the needed packages from arch repositories. The only downside is that nouveau performance in really behind nvidia's proprietary drivers.

But I have some problems with bbswitch.
It's better to ask them after completely install my Arch!

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#14 2016-04-14 12:33:48

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Re: [SOLVED] Problem with X Server

I came across the same problem when installing xorg-server in Arch(installed in virtualbox).
After I selected choice 1: the mesa-libgl, another question pop up:
2 providers for xf86-input-driver
1) xf86-input-evdev  2)xf86-input-libinput
so I choose 1), and a lot of packages(about 150M after installation) need to be installed.

The question is , which one should I choose, and is it normal to have 150M(I think this is rather big) packages to install?

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#15 2016-04-14 14:45:02

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Re: [SOLVED] Problem with X Server

Mesopotamian, please do not "necrobumping" old threads.

Continue in your own thread that you've already started.

Closed.


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