Gnome 2.12 the slowest desktop ever? )-:

Gullible Jones · 2005-11-05 11:17:57

Hmmm, Metacity 2.12.1 seems a bit faster to me. Me still no like the way windows behave though.

iBertus · 2005-11-05 19:40:14

Well, I just installed GNOME and checked it out. I seems pretty quick over here with metacity 2.12.1. I'm running with the closed-source nvidia drivers, render enabled and composite. The only thing that bothers me is how composite support still sucks!

Gullible Jones · 2005-11-05 20:03:29

Just wait until Xorg 7.0 final...

CyberTron · 2005-11-06 11:35:00

Gullible Jones wrote:

Just wait until Xorg 7.0 final...

when is that one coming? to X-mas?

Gullible Jones · 2005-11-06 14:54:01

Maybe. I'm willing to wait.

(If I wanted raw eyecandy, I'd be using KDE.)

CyberTron · 2005-11-06 14:56:32

Gullible Jones wrote:

Maybe. I'm willing to wait.
(If I wanted raw eyecandy, I'd be using KDE.)

why not use e17 for raw eyecandy at a good speed:D

Thikasabrik · 2005-11-10 18:45:31

The main reason gnome 2.12 feels slower is that now gtk (as of 2.8) is using cairo for its rendering. Cairo is getting faster, but it isn't as fast as the previous code yet. It does, however, make things look nicer by, for instance, anti-aliasing hard edges. Cairo is also good because it can have different rendering backends such as OpenGL.

See: http://cairographics.org/introduction

siimo · 2005-11-10 20:31:52

ahh, not exactly when it is atleast 10x as fast on ubuntu. Arch needs the patch for something im not sure what!

Gullible Jones · 2005-11-10 21:02:05

Hmmm... Try enabling the RENDER extension in xorg.conf. I've heard that Cairo uses it.

siimo · 2005-11-23 04:45:27

Hi
any update on this? I have been test driving more distributions with gnome 2.12 such as ubuntu, foresight linux and mandriva's breeding edge cooker on all these systems gnome flies even with the nv driver so i'm doubting if something got compiled wrongly on archlinux.

It may be worth noting again that this happened to me on opensuse as well as arch and they don't seem to care about gnome being kde guys.

Hope this gets sorted out soon I am bored of my temporary shelters in these other distros and miss the usual arch speediness

jesus franco · 2005-11-23 21:18:11

I don't see what the problem is, I don't have any problems at all. I use the latest stable stock Arch Kernel (2.6.13 at time of writing) and latest Arch gnome and metacity. I have experienced problems with slowdowns while watching videos on totem-xine during a clean install, but after I installed the ati closed-source drivers Everything was fine. Playback was amazing, especially in Mplayer (using the GL video output).

You people should try gtk-engines 2.7 (unstable) it has clearlooks using the cairo backend. Things certainly feel snapier if you ask me.

http://blogs.gnome.org/view/thos/2005/11/21/0

And if you have the guts...

Cario-gtk-engine (Things certainly work very well with that. Very snappy, and full of eye candy)

http://cvs.freedesktop.org/cairo/cairo-gtk-engine/

To get it just,

*as root*
pacman -S cvs
*as normal user*
cd
cvs -d :pserver:anoncvs@cvs.cairographics.org:/cvs/cairo login
cvs -d :pserver:anoncvs@cvs.cairographics.org:/cvs/cairo co cairo-gtk-engine
cd cairo-gtk-engine
./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr
make
*as root*
make install

for those that are wondering, yes you can use these engines with the current Cairo in the repos.

Cairo-Gtk-Engine
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JGC · 2005-11-23 22:28:37

Running glib 2.9.0 with pango 1.11.0 and the new gtk-engines 2.7.0 as of a few days ago. It doesn't crash as alpha/beta software usually does.
Everything feels better with the new gtk-engines, fonts are rendered faster, etc. Pango 1.11 is the branch where they do the cairo optimizations for fontrendering, it should be done once GNOME 2.14 is released.

Gullible Jones · 2005-11-23 23:31:11

Perhaps this newer stuff should be transferred to Current branch, if there are not bugs.

That said... I just installed Gnome, and it seems very snappy to me. Much more responsive than KDE anyway.

siimo · 2005-11-23 23:34:41

i suggest you guys install ubuntu and see the difference, actually just try the live CD even the live CD is much faster for me than arch's gnome.

Gullible Jones · 2005-11-23 23:51:30

For you, anyway. You seem to be the only one experience Gnome slowness right now.

Hmm, let's see... Do you have UDMA enabled for your hard drives?

pressh · 2005-11-24 11:58:39

jesus franco wrote:

And if you have the guts...
Cario-gtk-engine (Things certainly work very well with that. Very snappy, and full of eye candy)
http://cvs.freedesktop.org/cairo/cairo-gtk-engine/
To get it just,
*as root*
pacman -S cvs
*as normal user*
cd
cvs -d :pserver:anoncvs@cvs.cairographics.org:/cvs/cairo login
cvs -d :pserver:anoncvs@cvs.cairographics.org:/cvs/cairo co cairo-gtk-engine
cd cairo-gtk-engine
./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr
make
*as root*
make install
for those that are wondering, yes you can use these engines with the current Cairo in the repos.

Uhmm, it's in AUR mate.
I just installed it, no slowdowns and a bit more eye-candy.
Now let's hunt for some nicer themes: somebody any?

Arch Linux

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