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#1 2013-03-22 14:59:12

agaric
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agave - a monospaced font

agave is a monospaced outline font.

homepage
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more info (has alternate download links)

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ttf-agave

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glyph listing
sample text

about

  • free to use/scrutinise/modify/whatever (mit license)

  • designed with coding in mind

  • geometrically simple, with emphasis on regularity and consistency

  • bold and italic variants not implemented yet (though your font renderer might auto-generate them)

note

  • a version of the font is provided (at the homepage, suffixed -just) that is aimed at ascii-only, vertical-space-conscious users -- it has a smaller line gap at the cost of mutilation/invisibility of certain accents.

try it out -- give agave a go!

Last edited by agaric (2015-03-28 07:51:37)

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#2 2013-03-22 18:00:54

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Re: agave - a monospaced font

Just my $0.02 but I find the serifs on the uppercase "C", "P", "U", "V", and "Z" too blocky. Also in the uppercase "J", having the stem off center to the bar looks odd.

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#3 2013-03-22 19:12:09

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Re: agave - a monospaced font

remmember not forget characters like Ñ, Ö, Ú, ñ, þ, ð, æ ǽ ÿ and others
non english peoples going to say thanks to you if you not foget about the rest of the world

And for now look good, really good

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Well, I suppose that this is somekind of signature, no?

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#4 2013-03-23 06:22:03

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Re: agave - a monospaced font

Looking forward to an AUR package so I don't have to keep track of updates myself.

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#5 2013-03-23 07:19:59

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Re: agave - a monospaced font

Nice and interesting font. Be sure to polish it well cool

@dauerbaustelle
I usually just put custom fonts into .fonts folder and do fc-cache -vf but that's just me. But I don't think having AUR package would hurt at all.

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#6 2013-03-23 10:03:30

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Re: agave - a monospaced font

Thanks for the feedback, peeps.
I'm not an arch user myself but I sure appreciate the arch community and the helpfulness of its forum, so hats off to all the arch-villains out there.

Which also brings me to the packaging of this font for AUR: I don't really know how to do that. yet.

anonymous_user wrote:

Just my $0.02 but I find the serifs on the uppercase "C", "P", "U", "V", and "Z" too blocky. Also in the uppercase "J", having the stem off center to the bar looks odd.

Indeed, I had to fight with myself putting serifs on those capitals, and am still not sure how best to do away with case-ambiguity at small sizes. And yes, the "J" needs revisiting.

Jristz wrote:

remmember not forget characters like Ñ, Ö, Ú, ñ, þ, ð, æ ǽ ÿ and others

The current state of the font does include some non-ascii extensions (eg. it has the characters you mentioned except the "ae-ligature with acute" and the "n with bar").

My immediate non-ascii concern for the moment is with greek and cyrillic, which are mostly missing. And after they're done maybe spread out into other areas of unicode.
That said, I have yet to gauge the value of such an undertaking as this project is the first of its kind that I've tried, and it only started as a dab at designing latin characters.

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#7 2013-03-23 12:57:51

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#8 2013-03-24 15:06:12

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Re: agave - a monospaced font

agaric, here's a stub (but working) AUR package I made: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ttf-agave/ I disowned it - create an account and press the "adopt" button to make it yours.

To update the package, download the source tarball (menu on the right) and edit the PKGBUILD: pkgver/pkgrel and sha51sums. The meaning of these options is described here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PKGBUILD

Then use

makepkg --source

to create the updated package and submit it to the site using "submit" in the top menu. There are also tools that automate the submission process, see wiki.

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#9 2013-03-24 16:40:05

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Re: agave - a monospaced font

@anonymous_user
Thanks, it was fun writing a PKGBUILD.

@dauerbaustelle
Very much appreciate the AUR upload.
AUR registration seems to be having a little spam issue, so as soon as it lifts, I'm all over it.

I had also made a PKGBUILD meanwhile, and it's pretty much like yours except the use of package() instead of build(); not explicitly extracting the tarball (I think makepkg does this for us); and some license shtuff (as per these threads).
edit: license is now that of MIT X.

Also, does anyone know of a de facto (or documented) way of naming font packages? Why are there both foo-font and ttf-foo type names? I've searched forum/wiki to no avail.
edit: I realised that most truetype fonts on pacman have ttf- prefixes. So I'm sticking to that.

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#10 2013-03-26 09:01:37

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Re: agave - a monospaced font

dauerbaustelle wrote:

Looking forward to an AUR package so I don't have to keep track of updates myself.

Done, ttf-agave. Updated the first post with the AUR link.

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#11 2013-03-26 11:19:59

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Re: agave - a monospaced font

It looks quite nice. I use Greek all the time though, so I can't actually use it yet, but I'm installing it so it'll be updated when Greek characters are added. Oh, don't forget the Greek Extended too big_smile


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#12 2013-03-29 01:27:20

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Re: agave - a monospaced font

@GordonGR
Thank you. I've been working on the greek after your post, and pretty much filled it all out (including basic and extended greek). I've updated the AUR to reflect this.

I should mention that I rarely type or read greek, so I don't have the same "aesthetic handle" on its letters as I do the latin ones. Therefore any suggestion or criticism could be quite helpful -- even on little things like the shape of alpha, lack of curvature on pi, indistinct psili/dasia, etc.

Enjoy!

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#13 2013-03-29 15:13:17

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Re: agave - a monospaced font

Cool! I'll play with it and report back smile


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#14 2013-04-01 18:37:26

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Re: agave - a monospaced font

Now with basic cyrillic. AUR package updated. All and any feedback welcomed.

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#15 2013-04-02 11:43:59

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Re: agave - a monospaced font

I played with Greek yesterday. Basic Greek is very good! Extended can do better though. I haven't done an extensive tryout (I will though), but for the time being it seems that characters like ἁ–ἀ or ά–ὰ look too much alike, not to mention combinations such as ἄ–ἂ–ἃ-ἅ (which are four completely different things). But your font has great merit already! It's very easy on the eyes. I used it for TeX-ing yesterday and loved it! Great work!


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#16 2013-04-07 14:06:38

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Re: agave - a monospaced font

I'm very glad you like the font, GordonGR.

Your note on the diacritics is helpful.
As you might imagine, it's a bit challenging to make psili and dasia distinct at small sizes, and especially so, considering the limited space that I've allotted to accents and diacritics (limited, that is, for the sake of regularity).

I've made an attempt at an improvement (AUR package revision 3-5), but I'm uncertain that it'll completely fix things, so I'll keep working on it. Hmph, if only this were a bitmap font... :-P

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#17 2013-04-19 06:51:23

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Re: agave - a monospaced font

I just finished the cyrillic glyphs. Cheers.
Next up, complete latin extensions & ipa.

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#18 2013-04-19 12:24:41

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Re: agave - a monospaced font

Oh you're absolutely great! Agave is my new favourite monospace font smile I hope maths glyphs are in your todo list as well big_smile


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#19 2013-04-19 14:23:40

agaric
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Re: agave - a monospaced font

GordonGR wrote:

my new favourite monospace font

Yay!

I hope maths glyphs are in your todo list

Certainly, and I'm open to any calls for addition/improvement, so my todo list is pretty loose.

Feel free to let me know if there are particular math symbols you'd like to see implemented -- for the sake of expedience you see; there are quite a few mathematical symbols and a lot of them look rather obscure to my untrained eyes.

You could also make a more formal request by using the bitbucket bug report if you so wish.

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#20 2013-05-15 01:10:22

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Re: agave - a monospaced font

Now with ipa and latin extensions a & b.

In the next several days I'll probably start looking into bold and/or italic design. If anyone currently trying out agave would like to see particular features or have certain expectations in those styles, please don't hesitate to jump in and mention them.

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#21 2013-05-15 01:41:59

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Re: agave - a monospaced font

I'm just posting to say that i liked it a lot. I just use plain latin characters but the font is very cool. Thank you for your time working on it!


Satisfied users don't rant, so you'll never know how many of us there are.

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#22 2013-05-16 10:45:02

agaric
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Re: agave - a monospaced font

@denisfalqueto
Thanks for the kind words. It's a pleasure to work on a monospaced font and to share it with others.

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