[SOLVED]Thunar-volman does not react to removable disk

DelusionalLogic · 2013-05-30 22:53:38

I've switched to thunar from pcmanfm on my openbox system.

Since thunar has the volume management plugin volman i decided to take advantage of this. Sadly it doesn't seem to work for me. Thunar never mounts the drive anywhere, and the device doesn't appear in the sidebar.

I've installed HAL and thunar/thunar-volman. I run thunar in daemon mode on openbox autostart. What could be wrong?

Last edited by DelusionalLogic (2013-06-02 11:08:53)

jasonwryan · 2013-05-30 22:57:00

You have installed HAL from where?

lagagnon · 2013-05-30 22:57:15

I think you also need gvfs installed. See the Thunar article in the wiki.

DelusionalLogic · 2013-05-30 23:15:15

jasonwryan wrote:

You have installed HAL from where?

From the AUR version 0.5.14. I did enable it using systemctl

lagagnon wrote:

I think you also need gvfs installed. See the Thunar article in the wiki.

I have that installed, even some of the modules for MTP and the like.

This is what dmesg has to say about the whole thing:
http://paste.ubuntu.com/5718329/

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lagagnon · 2013-05-31 00:35:44

Ah, those are hardware fault messages, nothing to do with Thunar. The system cannot assign a device name to whatever device because it cannot be read by the kernel for whatever reason. Usually indicates a faulty drive. Try reformatting the drive maybe...

drcouzelis · 2013-05-31 13:18:57

I, too, use Openbox with Thunar and automounting.

DelusionalLogic wrote:

I've installed HAL and thunar/thunar-volman. I run thunar in daemon mode on openbox autostart. What could be wrong?

I've been following this thread since it was created, and I kept waiting for someone to ask what I thought was an incredibly obvious question: Why are you using HAL? Because HAL hasn't been needed or even used at all for a very long time in Arch Linux.

...but, since you may be having hardware issues, I have a more important question: Can you mount the removable disk at all, even without using automount?

DelusionalLogic · 2013-05-31 20:28:01

drcouzelis wrote:

I, too, use Openbox with Thunar and automounting.
DelusionalLogic wrote:
I've installed HAL and thunar/thunar-volman. I run thunar in daemon mode on openbox autostart. What could be wrong?
I've been following this thread since it was created, and I kept waiting for someone to ask what I thought was an incredibly obvious question: Why are you using HAL? Because HAL hasn't been needed or even used at all for a very long time in Arch Linux.
...but, since you may be having hardware issues, I have a more important question: Can you mount the removable disk at all, even without using automount?

I heard that Thunar-volman depended on it for mounting CD/DVD's from a search, and after 4-5 hours i was willing to try everything. Mounting devices manually gets old really quickly. Since it made that long list of errors show up, i decided that it at least did something.

That being said, i can mount the usb drive manually without problem, thunar even shows it in the sidebar when i do. the only thing not working seems to be the automounting. Should i create any folder for volman to mount to?

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jasonwryan · 2013-05-31 20:39:14

drcouzelis wrote:

I've been following this thread since it was created, and I kept waiting for someone to ask what I thought was an incredibly obvious question: Why are you using HAL? Because HAL hasn't been needed or even used at all for a very long time in Arch Linux.

My assumption was that anyone using HAL wasn't using Arch...

65kid · 2013-05-31 20:44:41

have you actually enabled automounting in thunar-volman-settings? Also, afaik you must have thunar running in daemon mode if you want it to automount even when thunar isn't open.

DelusionalLogic · 2013-05-31 20:53:55

Lets just say, i'm not entirely sure what i'm doing at this point. Since HAL didn't do anything to futher my progress i decided to remove it.

I have thunar running in daemon mode on openbox startup. using the command:

thunar --daemon &

It is enabled in the thunar preferences, as well as in the volman preferences.

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stqn · 2013-06-01 00:42:23

If your device is listed in /etc/fstab then it won’t appear in the left pane of Thunar.

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dag · 2013-06-01 01:22:03

you have to auto start thunar-volman.

when testing; it would not work for me but then I strted thunar-volman and also configured via edit/prefference/advancd/configure(link) or just start thunar-volman-settings.

drcouzelis · 2013-06-01 01:37:22

One thing I haven't seen you mention is starting D-Bus. Do you start D-Bus before starting Openbox?

The command by itself is "dbus-launch", but you can start it "nicely" by copying the code from the skeleton ".xinitrc" file:

# Run the X startup scripts
if [ -d /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d ]; then
  for f in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/*; do
    [ -x "$f" ] && . "$f"
  done
  unset f
fi

exec openbox-session

Also, do you have the proper settings selected, as is listed in item #3 here? I ask because, up until last month, I didn't, and I was wondering why automount wasn't working.

One more thing: That thing in the wiki about not needing to be in special groups anymore? It doesn't work for me. So, for the record, these are my groups: "wheel audio optical storage power users"

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DelusionalLogic · 2013-06-02 11:11:37

drcouzelis wrote:

One thing I haven't seen you mention is starting D-Bus. Do you start D-Bus before starting Openbox?
The command by itself is "dbus-launch", but you can start it "nicely" by copying the code from the skeleton ".xinitrc" file:
# Run the X startup scripts
if [ -d /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d ]; then
  for f in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/*; do
    [ -x "$f" ] && . "$f"
  done
  unset f
fi

exec openbox-session
Also, do you have the proper settings selected, as is listed in item #3 here? I ask because, up until last month, I didn't, and I was wondering why automount wasn't working.
One more thing: That thing in the wiki about not needing to be in special groups anymore? It doesn't work for me. So, for the record, these are my groups: "wheel audio optical storage power users"

It turns out that i did not base my skeleton file on /etc/skel/.xinitrc. After copying that file to my home directory, editing it to fit with my old one, and rebooting thunar did exactly what i was looking for. The drive now automounts and (since i configured it) thunar now automatically opens to show the new mount.

Thanks you everyone who helped out.

Arch Linux

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