Application to watch youtube

McQueenNewbie · 2013-06-22 11:25:06

Hello,

I got much problem with flashplugin, its never working (piece of crap) i'm looking for some application to watch movies on youtube. You have any ideas for that ?

carukia · 2013-06-22 11:28:38

There's quite a few in the AUR.

karol · 2013-06-22 11:33:41

What problems?
Have you tried pepper instead of flashplugin?

McQueenNewbie · 2013-06-22 11:34:03

Can you recommend something?

karol wrote:

What problems?
Have you tried pepper instead of flashplugin?

no i have not. problem is with twin view and fullscreen on firefox. I was trying to edit hex, trying around 100 plugins and not working.

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SS4 · 2013-06-22 11:38:29

Hard to say without knowing what you want/run.
You can run youtube videos using gnash from [community]
For some videos you can view in html5 via the youtube html5 trial link

If you'd rather watch on your own application then you can use minitube or smplayer. youtube-dl to download and watch later. Personally I use smplayer with smtube to find youtube videos

edit: Don't know of many gtk versions, as I've ran KDE for years

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McQueenNewbie · 2013-06-22 11:41:40

Well i wanna use some program to watching movies on youtube (not by firefox) i spent 2 days to trying repair my flashplugit but it didnt help.

I got 2 monitors, i wanna watch fullscreen on one and work on 2nd one but when i make full screen and go to my 2nd monitor fullscreen is closed.

(i'm very apologise for my english i know it sux hard but i'm doing my best).

opt1mus · 2013-06-22 12:24:54

There are many different ways, my preference is to grab the URL of the YT video and then play it with mpv. A typical occasion of doing this would involve seeing what formats are available with quvi - so for me I'd be doing something like;

$ quvi --query-format <youtube-url-foo>
fmt05_240p|fmt17_144p|fmt18_360p|fmt22_720p|fmt34_360p|fmt35_480p|fmt36_240p|fmt43_360p|fmt44_480p|fmt45_720p : <youtube-url-foo>
$ mpv --quvi-format=fmt22_720p <youtube-url-foo> >/dev/null &

Everyone will have their own preferred methods to watch/stream/dump YT videos et al, I find this the most clutter free.

dag · 2013-06-22 12:39:06

I dont think youtube needs flash I have no flash or substitute and I can watch youtube in my browser think it has something to do with html5. that said I like youtube-viewer(no ads, comercials) which is a cli program that shows different views like todays top videos etc... and uses mplayer to watch.

ewaller · 2013-06-22 14:03:04

At this point, I need to bring up Youtube's Terms of Service and would like to bring your attention to paragraph 4C. As moderator, I may be obliged to limit the discussion on this thread as the intent is to circumvent that TOS paragraph. Can we wrap it up please?

Trilby · 2013-06-22 14:10:32

Yikes. While I advocate for FOSS, I am also a strong supporter of any content author's rights to protect their content in any way they see fit. But I find that link disturbing. Not the content/restrictions of it - but the fact that (they claim that) anyone who simply views their website is subject to that agreement.

I am subject to a publishers restrictions when I buy one of their products or enter into any form of contract with them. I am not bound by a publishers rules though when I simply walk by their offices!

(EDIT: this is OT, and not relevant to the discussion at hand, as downloading/copying something off of someone's site certainly should make you subject to their restrictions: you are copying their content. I'm just disturbed that they think they can impose rules on people for simply viewing their website.)

*off to blacklist youtube from all of my browsers*

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ewaller · 2013-06-22 14:30:02

Trilby wrote:

Yikes. While I advocate for FOSS, I am also a strong supporter of any content author's rights to protect their content in any way they see fit.

And how. My philosophy is a strange mix of hacker influenced "Data and programs are meant to be free" tempered with the legal realities surrounding most of the projects I have been involved with throughout my professional career. As moderator here, I have to balance the hacker ethic versus drawing undesired attention to Arch Linux from entities that may feel the need to protect their interests. It can be a PITA.

graysky · 2013-06-22 14:34:34

@ewaller - This is a sticky issue seeing how [community] contains software that can violate paragraph 4C, (youtube-dl for example).

ewaller · 2013-06-22 14:39:43

graysky wrote:

@ewaller - This is a sticky issue seeing how [community] contains software that can violate paragraph 4C, (youtube-dl for example).

That is not my department. (ewaller sticks his head back into the sand)

Trilby · 2013-06-22 14:43:06

I an extremist on both ends: I *prefer* open source licensing practices, but I will defend even the most puritanical license. However, just because a company claims certain rights doesn't mean they ever had the authority to do so.

I have a website - not that it gets much traffic yet - but if I were to bury a terms of service document somewhere on my website that said in clear terms that anyone who visited my website was obligated to forget everything they had seen or send me $100 ... well, it's clearly an absurd claim. There is no legal basis to make such claims. I can place restrictions on how someone uses content they download from my site (provided I wrote it in the first place) but I cannot dictate someones behavior simply because they viewed my site.

I support youtube's right to restrict use of their content in any way they see fit (which is why I'll now avoid their site entirely). But to say I am subject to their rules simply because I typed their url in my browser - that's absurd. I'm subject to their rules if/when I copy any of their content.

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graysky · 2013-06-22 14:44:38

Good point Trilby.

Trilby · 2013-06-22 14:55:35

Hmm, I'm actually thinking I can support these tools that download the videos (but I'm not a lawyer!). The terms of service make it clear that whomever *posts* a video to youtube retains full ownership of the video for copyright purposes.

If I were to download any html content produced by youtube, then I would be subject to youtube's restrictions. But if I download only the video itself, I have not downloaded nor copied *any* content that youtube owns or hold a copyright on. So their restrictions are irrelevant. They can no more restrict me from using someone else's content (only the copyright holder can), than they can restrict me from reading a book I checked out at the library: it's not their material, which they admit in their own terms of service.

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graysky · 2013-06-22 14:57:05

OP - Have you solved your problem?

McQueenNewbie · 2013-06-22 15:56:24

well still loking for some program to watch yt i agree with paragraph 4C but i CANT using flash / firefox to watch movies properly so i'm looking for some advice or tips how i can watch yt from program.

karol · 2013-06-22 15:59:29

Try html5 or pepper-based flash, as already have been suggested.

McQueenNewbie · 2013-06-22 16:06:17

Well html5 can work with some movies on youtbe, but not at all, also i'm watching movies from other site where html5 is not supported so i cant use it.

About paper-based flash is for chromium how i guess ?

/add

btw HTML5 got same problem with fullscreen like flashplugin its not working on twin view displays

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karol · 2013-06-22 16:11:58

McQueenNewbie wrote:

About paper-based flash is for chromium how i guess ?

Yup, at least chrome & chromium.

McQueenNewbie · 2013-06-22 16:30:50

i cant find any information about paper-based flash its some kind of plugin for chromium ?

karol · 2013-06-22 16:38:32

McQueenNewbie wrote:

i cant find any information about paper-based flash its some kind of plugin for chromium ?

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/chro … per-flash/

dag · 2013-06-22 16:50:14

yep 4c is pretty explicit and just means I wont use their service.

McQueenNewbie wrote:

well still loking for some program to watch yt smile i agree with paragraph 4C but i CANT using flash / firefox to watch movies properly so i'm looking for some advice or tips how i can watch yt from program.

if you are to comply with there terms of service you can not use any program(outside of a web browser) to access their content.

so do other web site have to now get permission to create embedded links on their sites, blogs and whatnot. I understand this is them pertecting their cash cow with ads but I wonder when someone posts a video on thier site do they no forfiet the ownership of the original video.6c

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McQueenNewbie · 2013-06-22 16:53:12

so i see i need to back to damn windows to watch movies in flash properly ?

btw

paper-flash fullscreen on dual screen is not working same like flashplugin on ff or chrome

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