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#1 2013-07-01 00:21:49

abrambleninja
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x.org refuses to start

Hello,
I just installed Arch Linux for the first time today. Everything went well until I tried to start the xorg server using

startx

. X appears to have initialized all of the built in extensions correctly, but right after the "Loading extension GLX" log, it complained about not finding the screen. I checked the Xorg log (/var/log/Xorg.0.log), and I saw this:

[   731.306] (==) Matched intel as autoconfigured driver 0
[   731.306] (==) Matched intel as autoconfigured driver 1
[   731.306] (==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 2
[   731.306] (==) Matched modesetting as autoconfigured driver 3
[   731.306] (==) Matched fbdev as autoconfigured driver 4
[   731.306] (==) Assigned the driver to the xf86ConfigLayout
[   731.306] (II) LoadModule: "intel"
[   731.306] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module intel
[   731.306] (II) UnloadModule: "intel"
[   731.306] (II) Unloading intel
[   731.306] (EE) Failed to load module "intel" (module does not exist, 0)
[   731.306] (II) LoadModule: "vesa"
[   731.306] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module vesa
[   731.306] (II) UnloadModule: "vesa"
[   731.306] (II) Unloading vesa
[   731.306] (EE) Failed to load module "vesa" (module does not exist, 0)
[   731.306] (II) LoadModule: "modesetting"
[   731.306] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module modesetting
[   731.306] (II) UnloadModule: "modesetting"
[   731.306] (II) Unloading modesetting
[   731.306] (EE) Failed to load module "modesetting" (module does not exist, 0)
[   731.306] (II) LoadModule: "fbdev"
[   731.306] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module fbdev
[   731.306] (II) UnloadModule: "fbdev"
[   731.306] (II) Unloading fbdev
[   731.306] (EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0)
[   731.306] (EE) No drivers available.
[   731.306] (EE) 
Fatal server error:
[   731.307] (EE) no screens found(EE) 
[   731.308] (EE) 
Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support 
	 at http://wiki.x.org
 for help. 
[   731.311] (EE) Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information.
[   731.311] (EE) 

I'm wondering: is Xorg complaining about graphics cards? I already have the right NVIDIA driver installed (the official proprietary one). How can I fix this without just installing vesa or the Intel module?

My computer has an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670, and an Intel motherboard-integrated card also. I want to use the NVIDIA one.

Thanks so much!


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#2 2013-07-01 00:40:45

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Re: x.org refuses to start

abrambleninja,
                      Have you disabled the Intel motherboard-integrated card in BIOS?

You should also have, in BIOS, something like "Primary Display Adaptor"? Check that this is pointed at your Nvidia card (normally PCI-E).

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#3 2013-07-01 01:04:19

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Re: x.org refuses to start

straykat wrote:

abrambleninja,
                      Have you disabled the Intel motherboard-integrated card in BIOS?

I don't think I have. How would I go about doing that?

If I run

lspci | grep VGA

I get:

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF114M [GeForce GTX 670M] (rev a1)

which I understand to mean that they're both enabled.


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#4 2013-07-01 01:16:53

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Re: x.org refuses to start

How to do it depends on your BIOS. You have to boot into it and see or read the documentation for your motherboard/computer.


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#5 2013-07-01 01:28:39

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Re: x.org refuses to start

Or you could put

Driver "nvidia"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"

in an xorg.conf "Device" section.


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#6 2013-07-01 01:40:56

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Re: x.org refuses to start

ConnorBehan wrote:

Or you could put

Driver "nvidia"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"

in an xorg.conf "Device" section.

Where is xorg.conf located? I've searched around and people say it's at /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but my X11 directory only contains other directories. Do I create one?

I tried running 'find / | grep xorg.conf' but only directories came up.

Sorry, really new to Arch here.

Thanks!

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#7 2013-07-01 01:43:49

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Re: x.org refuses to start


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#8 2013-07-01 02:08:40

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Re: x.org refuses to start

ConnorBehan wrote:

Or you could put

Driver "nvidia"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"

in an xorg.conf "Device" section.

OK, I did that, and now xorg is complaining about 'No devices detected.' in addition to 'No screens found.'

Xorg.0.log:

[  1834.388] (II) LoadModule: "glx"
[  1834.388] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
[  1834.393] (II) Module glx: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
[  1834.394] 	compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
[  1834.394] 	Module class: X.Org Server Extension
[  1834.394] (II) NVIDIA GLX Module  304.88  Wed Mar 27 14:46:57 PDT 2013
[  1834.394] Loading extension GLX
[  1834.394] (II) LoadModule: "nvidia"
[  1834.394] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so
[  1834.395] (II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
[  1834.395] 	compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
[  1834.395] 	Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[  1834.395] (II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver  304.88  Wed Mar 27 14:28:14 PDT 2013
[  1834.395] (II) NVIDIA Unified Driver for all Supported NVIDIA GPUs
[  1834.395] (++) using VT number 1

[  1834.395] (EE) No devices detected.
[  1834.395] (EE) 
Fatal server error:
[  1834.395] (EE) no screens found(EE) 
[  1834.395] (EE) 
Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support 
	 at http://wiki.x.org
 for help. 
[  1834.395] (EE) Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information.
[  1834.395] (EE) 

Thanks for the help everyone!


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#9 2013-07-01 02:23:33

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Re: x.org refuses to start

Post the config you created.


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#10 2013-07-01 02:33:35

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Re: x.org refuses to start

cfr wrote:

Post the config you created.

# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
# nvidia-xconfig:  version 304.88  (buildmeister@swio-display-x86-rhel47-06)  Wed Mar 27 15:32:58 PDT 2013

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier     "Layout0"
    Screen      0  "Screen0"
    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
    InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
EndSection

Section "Files"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    # generated from default
    Identifier     "Mouse0"
    Driver         "mouse"
    Option         "Protocol" "auto"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/psaux"
    Option         "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
    Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    # generated from default
    Identifier     "Keyboard0"
    Driver         "kbd"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier     "Monitor0"
    VendorName     "Unknown"
    ModelName      "Unknown"
    HorizSync       28.0 - 33.0
    VertRefresh     43.0 - 72.0
    Option         "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Device0"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Screen0"
    Device         "Device0"
    Monitor        "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth    24
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       24
    EndSubSection
EndSection

EDIT: I followed the guide here (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/NVidia/nvi … ny_screens), and now xorg is saying "Screens found, but none have a usable configuration." Making progress!

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#11 2013-07-02 01:58:32

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Re: x.org refuses to start

I still have the "Screens found, but none have a usable configuration" error. My Xorg.0.log is:

[  1385.299] 
X.Org X Server 1.14.2
Release Date: 2013-06-25
[  1385.303] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
[  1385.305] Build Operating System: Linux 3.9.7-1-ARCH x86_64 
[  1385.306] Current Operating System: Linux hidden 3.9.8-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Jun 27 21:37:31 CEST 2013 x86_64
[  1385.306] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-linux root=UUID=11326e68-dd84-4575-8a97-067094d61d91 ro quiet
[  1385.308] Build Date: 25 June 2013  06:53:24PM
[  1385.309]  
[  1385.309] Current version of pixman: 0.30.0
[  1385.311] 	Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
	to make sure that you have the latest version.
[  1385.311] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
	(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
	(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[  1385.313] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Jul  1 18:40:37 2013
[  1385.314] (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[  1385.314] (==) ServerLayout "Layout0"
[  1385.314] (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0)
[  1385.314] (**) |   |-->Monitor "Monitor0"
[  1385.314] (**) |   |-->Device "Device0"
[  1385.314] (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0"
[  1385.314] (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0"
[  1385.314] (==) Automatically adding devices
[  1385.314] (==) Automatically enabling devices
[  1385.314] (==) Automatically adding GPU devices
[  1385.314] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/" does not exist.
[  1385.314] 	Entry deleted from font path.
[  1385.314] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/OTF/" does not exist.
[  1385.314] 	Entry deleted from font path.
[  1385.314] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/" does not exist.
[  1385.314] 	Entry deleted from font path.
[  1385.314] (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/".
[  1385.314] 	Entry deleted from font path.
[  1385.314] 	(Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/").
[  1385.314] (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/".
[  1385.314] 	Entry deleted from font path.
[  1385.314] 	(Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/").
[  1385.314] (==) FontPath set to:
	/usr/share/fonts/misc/
[  1385.314] (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
[  1385.314] (WW) Hotplugging is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or 'vmmouse' will be disabled.
[  1385.314] (WW) Disabling Keyboard0
[  1385.314] (WW) Disabling Mouse0
[  1385.314] (II) Loader magic: 0x7fdc20
[  1385.314] (II) Module ABI versions:
[  1385.314] 	X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
[  1385.314] 	X.Org Video Driver: 14.1
[  1385.314] 	X.Org XInput driver : 19.1
[  1385.314] 	X.Org Server Extension : 7.0
[  1385.314] (II) xfree86: Adding drm device (/dev/dri/card0)
[  1385.316] (--) PCI:*(0:0:2:0) 8086:0166:1462:10cb rev 9, Mem @ 0xf6400000/4194304, 0xd0000000/268435456, I/O @ 0x0000f000/64
[  1385.316] (--) PCI: (0:1:0:0) 10de:1213:1462:10cb rev 161, Mem @ 0xf4000000/33554432, 0xe0000000/134217728, 0xe8000000/67108864, I/O @ 0x0000e000/128, BIOS @ 0x????????/524288
[  1385.316] Initializing built-in extension Generic Event Extension
[  1385.317] Initializing built-in extension SHAPE
[  1385.318] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM
[  1385.318] Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension
[  1385.319] Initializing built-in extension XTEST
[  1385.320] Initializing built-in extension BIG-REQUESTS
[  1385.320] Initializing built-in extension SYNC
[  1385.321] Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD
[  1385.322] Initializing built-in extension XC-MISC
[  1385.322] Initializing built-in extension SECURITY
[  1385.323] Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA
[  1385.323] Initializing built-in extension XFIXES
[  1385.324] Initializing built-in extension RENDER
[  1385.325] Initializing built-in extension RANDR
[  1385.325] Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE
[  1385.326] Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE
[  1385.326] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[  1385.327] Initializing built-in extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
[  1385.328] Initializing built-in extension RECORD
[  1385.328] Initializing built-in extension DPMS
[  1385.329] Initializing built-in extension X-Resource
[  1385.330] Initializing built-in extension XVideo
[  1385.330] Initializing built-in extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
[  1385.331] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
[  1385.332] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-DGA
[  1385.332] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-DRI
[  1385.333] Initializing built-in extension DRI2
[  1385.333] (II) LoadModule: "glx"
[  1385.333] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
[  1385.338] (II) Module glx: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
[  1385.338] 	compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
[  1385.338] 	Module class: X.Org Server Extension
[  1385.338] (II) NVIDIA GLX Module  304.88  Wed Mar 27 14:46:57 PDT 2013
[  1385.339] Loading extension GLX
[  1385.339] (II) LoadModule: "nvidia"
[  1385.339] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so
[  1385.339] (II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
[  1385.339] 	compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
[  1385.339] 	Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[  1385.340] (II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver  304.88  Wed Mar 27 14:28:14 PDT 2013
[  1385.340] (II) NVIDIA Unified Driver for all Supported NVIDIA GPUs
[  1385.340] (++) using VT number 1

[  1385.340] (II) Loading sub module "fb"
[  1385.340] (II) LoadModule: "fb"
[  1385.340] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libfb.so
[  1385.340] (II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[  1385.340] 	compiled for 1.14.2, module version = 1.0.0
[  1385.340] 	ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4
[  1385.340] (II) Loading sub module "wfb"
[  1385.340] (II) LoadModule: "wfb"
[  1385.340] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so
[  1385.340] (II) Module wfb: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[  1385.340] 	compiled for 1.14.2, module version = 1.0.0
[  1385.340] 	ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4
[  1385.340] (II) Loading sub module "ramdac"
[  1385.340] (II) LoadModule: "ramdac"
[  1385.340] (II) Module "ramdac" already built-in
[  1385.340] (**) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
[  1385.340] (==) NVIDIA(0): RGB weight 888
[  1385.340] (==) NVIDIA(0): Default visual is TrueColor
[  1385.340] (==) NVIDIA(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
[  1385.340] (**) NVIDIA(0): Enabling 2D acceleration
[  1385.491] (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU GeForce GTX 670M (GF114) at PCI:1:0:0 (GPU-0)
[  1385.492] (--) NVIDIA(0): Memory: 3145728 kBytes
[  1385.492] (--) NVIDIA(0): VideoBIOS: 70.24.43.00.ea
[  1385.492] (II) NVIDIA(0): Detected PCI Express Link width: 16X
[  1385.492] (--) NVIDIA(0): Interlaced video modes are supported on this GPU
[  1385.494] (--) NVIDIA(0): Valid display device(s) on GeForce GTX 670M at PCI:1:0:0
[  1385.494] (--) NVIDIA(0):     CRT-0
[  1385.494] (--) NVIDIA(0): CRT-0: 400.0 MHz maximum pixel clock
[  1385.494] (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to assign any connected display devices to X screen 0
[  1385.496] (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failing initialization of X screen 0
[  1385.506] (II) UnloadModule: "nvidia"
[  1385.506] (II) UnloadSubModule: "wfb"
[  1385.506] (II) UnloadSubModule: "fb"
[  1385.506] (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[  1385.506] (EE) 
Fatal server error:
[  1385.506] (EE) no screens found(EE) 
[  1385.507] (EE) 
Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support 
	 at http://wiki.x.org
 for help. 
[  1385.507] (EE) Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information.
[  1385.507] (EE) 
[  1385.510] (EE) Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file.

I've google'd my eyes out and can't find anything! Help would be greatly appreciated.


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#12 2013-07-02 02:05:27

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Re: x.org refuses to start

Have you tried following the Arch wiki? If so, did you try the automatic or minimal configurations at all?


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#13 2013-07-02 02:23:53

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Re: x.org refuses to start

cfr wrote:

Have you tried following the Arch wiki? If so, did you try the automatic or minimal configurations at all?

I followed the Arch Wiki's guide almost word-for-word. I used

nvidia-xconfig

to generate my /etc/X11/xorg.conf (which is what I assume you meant by configurations). I also tried

Xorg :0 -configure

(and then started X with

X -config /root/xorg.conf.new

which resulted in the same error.

I've also read through Troubleshooting (on the Arch Wiki) and I've looked at the X wiki.

EDIT: I have now also tried

Xorg -configure 

and, after switching out the config file with the new one, I ended up with the same error.

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#14 2013-07-02 19:32:00

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Re: x.org refuses to start

Have you tried assigning a Screen in the Device section as they do in the wiki example?

Note that I know nothing about this - I am just comparing your config with the example. So if you think you know better, you are almost certainly correct wink.

EDIT: Hopefully somebody who uses nvidia (or at least knows how to configure X) will happen by now your config and stuff is up. I'm pretty useless at this point (most points).

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#15 2013-07-02 21:14:40

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Re: x.org refuses to start

I'm starting to get really frustrated. I've tried #xorg on freenode, and they said it was an nvidia problem. Someone on #nvidia was helping me (I installed the official driver from their website rather than pacman), but then their Internet died and couldn't help me anymore. The #nvidia channel is next to dead. Does anyone know of a better place to get help?

Also, I'm kinda bumping this post because maybe someone new will see it.

Thanks everyone for your help so far!


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#16 2013-07-03 00:57:12

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Re: x.org refuses to start

No usable configuration could mean that you haven't listed modes in the "Display" subsection. Right under "Depth 24", try writing "Modes 1600x1200" or whatever you want to use. Are you loading the nvidia kernel module first? Maybe you can change the HorizSync and VertRefresh values in the "Monitor" section or just remove that section altogether.


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#17 2013-07-03 11:19:28

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Re: x.org refuses to start

I have the same problem, just installed Arch for the first time, right now. I've generated a Xorg config file, just as abrambleninja (OP), same command and everything, then made the

BusID "PCI:1:0:0"

I put that line just under the Driver line, which already said "nvidia" (My GPU/screencard (whatever) is nvidia, I followed the Arch Linux Beginner Guide and installed Arch successfully, first error that I can't handle myself is now).

When I try to start Xorg with "startx", I get the same error, refering to the Xorg.0.log file. I check that file, and it still says

(...)Fatal server error: 
(....) no screens found(EE) (.....)

Above that it says:

Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.

Does anyone know, how I give my screen a usable configuration? It's an Alienware m11" (laptop).

Also, should I post the .log file and .conf file? I'm on another laptop right now, googling my way through everything, I tried using the elinks in another tty, but I didn't like that at all. Is there some easier way to share the log? Should I transfer the .log and .conf etc. to an USB pen, then open here? Just wondering how you do it tongue

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Re: x.org refuses to start

Rohdehoved wrote:

I have the same problem, just installed Arch for the first time, right now. I've generated a Xorg config file, just as abrambleninja (OP), same command and everything, then made the

BusID "PCI:1:0:0"

I put that line just under the Driver line, which already said "nvidia" (My GPU/screencard (whatever) is nvidia, I followed the Arch Linux Beginner Guide and installed Arch successfully, first error that I can't handle myself is now).

When I try to start Xorg with "startx", I get the same error, refering to the Xorg.0.log file. I check that file, and it still says

(...)Fatal server error: 
(....) no screens found(EE) (.....)

Above that it says:

Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.

Does anyone know, how I give my screen a usable configuration? It's an Alienware m11" (laptop).

Also, should I post the .log file and .conf file? I'm on another laptop right now, googling my way through everything, I tried using the elinks in another tty, but I didn't like that at all. Is there some easier way to share the log? Should I transfer the .log and .conf etc. to an USB pen, then open here? Just wondering how you do it tongue

You probably have optimus, which makes this a totally different problem than the one OP had. Check out the bumblebee wiki page.


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#19 2013-07-03 16:08:53

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Re: x.org refuses to start

I'm now using the nouveau driver, and now X can't detect any devices, even after I put the bus ID from

lspci | grep -i vga

in the config. I'll post my config and logs in a few hours or so, I have to run right now.

Rohdehoved wrote:

Should I transfer the .log and .conf etc. to an USB pen, then open here? Just wondering how you do it tongue

I set up an SSH server on my Arch machine using OpenSSH:

pacman -S openssh
systemctl enable sshd.service
systemctl start sshd

then I logged in from a different laptop and copy pasted the cat output.

EDIT: I have Optimus also, just like Rohdehoved. I installed Bumblebee, but when I run

optirun glxgears -info

it gives an error. I'll post it in a bit.

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#20 2013-07-03 20:47:11

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Re: x.org refuses to start

wgetpaste is the easiest way to post stuff.

For nouveau, try not using a config file for it at all - it should just work stuff out for itself automatically. The main thing if I remember correctly is to either not have conflicting drivers installed or to blacklist them as they prevent nouveau loading. That said, things may have changed since then so may no longer be a problem.


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#21 2013-07-03 23:36:46

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Re: x.org refuses to start

cfr wrote:

wgetpaste is the easiest way to post stuff.

How did I just find out about this?

cfr wrote:

For nouveau, try not using a config file for it at all - it should just work stuff out for itself automatically. The main thing if I remember correctly is to either not have conflicting drivers installed or to blacklist them as they prevent nouveau loading. That said, things may have changed since then so may no longer be a problem.

I don't have any conflicting drivers. I removed everything that said nvidia. I tried moving my xorg.conf so X would start without it, but X couldn't find any drivers:

[ 78419.474] 
X.Org X Server 1.14.2
Release Date: 2013-06-25
[ 78419.479] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
[ 78419.480] Build Operating System: Linux 3.9.7-1-ARCH x86_64 
[ 78419.481] Current Operating System: Linux hidden 3.9.8-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Jun 27 21:37:31 CEST 2013 x86_64
[ 78419.481] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-linux root=UUID=11326e68-dd84-4575-8a97-067094d61d91 ro quiet
[ 78419.483] Build Date: 01 July 2013  10:48:42AM
[ 78419.484]  
[ 78419.485] Current version of pixman: 0.30.0
[ 78419.487] 	Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
	to make sure that you have the latest version.
[ 78419.487] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
	(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
	(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[ 78419.491] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Wed Jul  3 14:26:55 2013
[ 78419.492] (==) Using config directory: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d"
[ 78419.492] (==) No Layout section.  Using the first Screen section.
[ 78419.492] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults.
[ 78419.492] (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0)
[ 78419.492] (**) |   |-->Monitor "<default monitor>"
[ 78419.492] (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section".
	Using a default monitor configuration.
[ 78419.492] (==) Automatically adding devices
[ 78419.492] (==) Automatically enabling devices
[ 78419.492] (==) Automatically adding GPU devices
[ 78419.492] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/" does not exist.
[ 78419.492] 	Entry deleted from font path.
[ 78419.492] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/OTF/" does not exist.
[ 78419.492] 	Entry deleted from font path.
[ 78419.492] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/" does not exist.
[ 78419.492] 	Entry deleted from font path.
[ 78419.492] (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/".
[ 78419.492] 	Entry deleted from font path.
[ 78419.492] 	(Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/").
[ 78419.492] (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/".
[ 78419.492] 	Entry deleted from font path.
[ 78419.492] 	(Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/").
[ 78419.492] (==) FontPath set to:
	/usr/share/fonts/misc/
[ 78419.492] (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
[ 78419.492] (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices.
	If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable AutoAddDevices.
[ 78419.492] (II) Loader magic: 0x7fdc20
[ 78419.492] (II) Module ABI versions:
[ 78419.492] 	X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
[ 78419.492] 	X.Org Video Driver: 14.1
[ 78419.492] 	X.Org XInput driver : 19.1
[ 78419.492] 	X.Org Server Extension : 7.0
[ 78419.492] (II) xfree86: Adding drm device (/dev/dri/card1)
[ 78419.493] (--) PCI:*(0:0:2:0) 8086:0166:1462:10cb rev 9, Mem @ 0xf6400000/4194304, 0xd0000000/268435456, I/O @ 0x0000f000/64
[ 78419.495] Initializing built-in extension Generic Event Extension
[ 78419.496] Initializing built-in extension SHAPE
[ 78419.496] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM
[ 78419.497] Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension
[ 78419.498] Initializing built-in extension XTEST
[ 78419.499] Initializing built-in extension BIG-REQUESTS
[ 78419.500] Initializing built-in extension SYNC
[ 78419.501] Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD
[ 78419.502] Initializing built-in extension XC-MISC
[ 78419.503] Initializing built-in extension SECURITY
[ 78419.504] Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA
[ 78419.505] Initializing built-in extension XFIXES
[ 78419.506] Initializing built-in extension RENDER
[ 78419.506] Initializing built-in extension RANDR
[ 78419.507] Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE
[ 78419.508] Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE
[ 78419.509] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[ 78419.510] Initializing built-in extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
[ 78419.510] Initializing built-in extension RECORD
[ 78419.511] Initializing built-in extension DPMS
[ 78419.512] Initializing built-in extension X-Resource
[ 78419.513] Initializing built-in extension XVideo
[ 78419.514] Initializing built-in extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
[ 78419.514] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
[ 78419.515] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-DGA
[ 78419.516] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-DRI
[ 78419.517] Initializing built-in extension DRI2
[ 78419.517] (II) LoadModule: "glx"
[ 78419.517] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
[ 78419.517] (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[ 78419.517] 	compiled for 1.14.2, module version = 1.0.0
[ 78419.517] 	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 7.0
[ 78419.517] (==) AIGLX enabled
[ 78419.517] Loading extension GLX
[ 78419.517] (==) Matched intel as autoconfigured driver 0
[ 78419.517] (==) Matched intel as autoconfigured driver 1
[ 78419.517] (==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 2
[ 78419.517] (==) Matched modesetting as autoconfigured driver 3
[ 78419.517] (==) Matched fbdev as autoconfigured driver 4
[ 78419.517] (==) Assigned the driver to the xf86ConfigLayout
[ 78419.517] (II) LoadModule: "intel"
[ 78419.518] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module intel
[ 78419.518] (II) UnloadModule: "intel"
[ 78419.518] (II) Unloading intel
[ 78419.518] (EE) Failed to load module "intel" (module does not exist, 0)
[ 78419.518] (II) LoadModule: "vesa"
[ 78419.518] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module vesa
[ 78419.518] (II) UnloadModule: "vesa"
[ 78419.518] (II) Unloading vesa
[ 78419.518] (EE) Failed to load module "vesa" (module does not exist, 0)
[ 78419.518] (II) LoadModule: "modesetting"
[ 78419.518] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module modesetting
[ 78419.518] (II) UnloadModule: "modesetting"
[ 78419.518] (II) Unloading modesetting
[ 78419.518] (EE) Failed to load module "modesetting" (module does not exist, 0)
[ 78419.518] (II) LoadModule: "fbdev"
[ 78419.518] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module fbdev
[ 78419.518] (II) UnloadModule: "fbdev"
[ 78419.518] (II) Unloading fbdev
[ 78419.518] (EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0)
[ 78419.518] (EE) No drivers available.
[ 78419.518] (EE) 
Fatal server error:
[ 78419.519] (EE) no screens found(EE) 
[ 78419.520] (EE) 
Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support 
	 at http://wiki.x.org
 for help. 
[ 78419.523] (EE) Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information.
[ 78419.523] (EE) 
abrambleninja wrote:

I'll post my config and logs in a few hours or so, I have to run right now.

Log:

[ 79763.911] 
X.Org X Server 1.14.2
Release Date: 2013-06-25
[ 79763.917] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
[ 79763.919] Build Operating System: Linux 3.9.7-1-ARCH x86_64 
[ 79763.919] Current Operating System: Linux hidden 3.9.8-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Jun 27 21:37:31 CEST 2013 x86_64
[ 79763.919] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-linux root=UUID=11326e68-dd84-4575-8a97-067094d61d91 ro quiet
[ 79763.921] Build Date: 01 July 2013  10:48:42AM
[ 79763.922]  
[ 79763.923] Current version of pixman: 0.30.0
[ 79763.924] 	Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
	to make sure that you have the latest version.
[ 79763.924] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
	(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
	(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[ 79763.928] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Wed Jul  3 14:49:19 2013
[ 79763.929] (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[ 79763.930] (==) Using config directory: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d"
[ 79763.930] (==) ServerLayout "Layout0"
[ 79763.930] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults.
[ 79763.930] (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0)
[ 79763.930] (**) |   |-->Monitor "<default monitor>"
[ 79763.930] (==) No device specified for screen "Default Screen Section".
	Using the first device section listed.
[ 79763.930] (**) |   |-->Device "DiscreteNvidia"
[ 79763.930] (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section".
	Using a default monitor configuration.
[ 79763.930] (**) Option "AutoAddDevices" "false"
[ 79763.930] (**) Option "AutoAddGPU" "true"
[ 79763.930] (**) Not automatically adding devices
[ 79763.930] (==) Automatically enabling devices
[ 79763.930] (**) Automatically adding GPU devices
[ 79763.930] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/" does not exist.
[ 79763.930] 	Entry deleted from font path.
[ 79763.930] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/OTF/" does not exist.
[ 79763.930] 	Entry deleted from font path.
[ 79763.930] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/" does not exist.
[ 79763.930] 	Entry deleted from font path.
[ 79763.930] (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/".
[ 79763.930] 	Entry deleted from font path.
[ 79763.930] 	(Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/").
[ 79763.930] (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/".
[ 79763.930] 	Entry deleted from font path.
[ 79763.930] 	(Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/").
[ 79763.930] (==) FontPath set to:
	/usr/share/fonts/misc/
[ 79763.930] (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
[ 79763.930] (==) |-->Input Device "<default pointer>"
[ 79763.930] (==) |-->Input Device "<default keyboard>"
[ 79763.930] (==) The core pointer device wasn't specified explicitly in the layout.
	Using the default mouse configuration.
[ 79763.930] (==) The core keyboard device wasn't specified explicitly in the layout.
	Using the default keyboard configuration.
[ 79763.930] (II) Loader magic: 0x7fdc20
[ 79763.930] (II) Module ABI versions:
[ 79763.930] 	X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
[ 79763.930] 	X.Org Video Driver: 14.1
[ 79763.930] 	X.Org XInput driver : 19.1
[ 79763.930] 	X.Org Server Extension : 7.0
[ 79763.930] (II) xfree86: Adding drm device (/dev/dri/card1)
[ 79763.931] (--) PCI:*(0:0:2:0) 8086:0166:1462:10cb rev 9, Mem @ 0xf6400000/4194304, 0xd0000000/268435456, I/O @ 0x0000f000/64
[ 79763.932] Initializing built-in extension Generic Event Extension
[ 79763.933] Initializing built-in extension SHAPE
[ 79763.934] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM
[ 79763.935] Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension
[ 79763.936] Initializing built-in extension XTEST
[ 79763.937] Initializing built-in extension BIG-REQUESTS
[ 79763.937] Initializing built-in extension SYNC
[ 79763.938] Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD
[ 79763.939] Initializing built-in extension XC-MISC
[ 79763.940] Initializing built-in extension SECURITY
[ 79763.941] Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA
[ 79763.942] Initializing built-in extension XFIXES
[ 79763.942] Initializing built-in extension RENDER
[ 79763.943] Initializing built-in extension RANDR
[ 79763.944] Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE
[ 79763.945] Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE
[ 79763.945] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[ 79763.946] Initializing built-in extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
[ 79763.947] Initializing built-in extension RECORD
[ 79763.948] Initializing built-in extension DPMS
[ 79763.948] Initializing built-in extension X-Resource
[ 79763.949] Initializing built-in extension XVideo
[ 79763.950] Initializing built-in extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
[ 79763.951] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
[ 79763.951] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-DGA
[ 79763.952] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-DRI
[ 79763.953] Initializing built-in extension DRI2
[ 79763.953] (II) LoadModule: "glx"
[ 79763.953] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
[ 79763.953] (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[ 79763.953] 	compiled for 1.14.2, module version = 1.0.0
[ 79763.953] 	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 7.0
[ 79763.953] (==) AIGLX enabled
[ 79763.954] Loading extension GLX
[ 79763.954] (II) LoadModule: "nouveau"
[ 79763.954] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nouveau_drv.so
[ 79763.954] (II) Module nouveau: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[ 79763.954] 	compiled for 1.14.1, module version = 1.0.8
[ 79763.954] 	Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[ 79763.954] 	ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 14.1
[ 79763.954] (II) LoadModule: "mouse"
[ 79763.954] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so
[ 79763.954] (II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[ 79763.954] 	compiled for 1.14.0, module version = 1.9.0
[ 79763.954] 	Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
[ 79763.954] 	ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 19.1
[ 79763.954] (II) LoadModule: "kbd"
[ 79763.954] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/kbd_drv.so
[ 79763.954] (II) Module kbd: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[ 79763.954] 	compiled for 1.14.0, module version = 1.7.0
[ 79763.954] 	Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
[ 79763.954] 	ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 19.1
[ 79763.954] (II) NOUVEAU driver 
[ 79763.954] (II) NOUVEAU driver for NVIDIA chipset families :
[ 79763.954] 	RIVA TNT        (NV04)
[ 79763.954] 	RIVA TNT2       (NV05)
[ 79763.954] 	GeForce 256     (NV10)
[ 79763.954] 	GeForce 2       (NV11, NV15)
[ 79763.954] 	GeForce 4MX     (NV17, NV18)
[ 79763.954] 	GeForce 3       (NV20)
[ 79763.954] 	GeForce 4Ti     (NV25, NV28)
[ 79763.954] 	GeForce FX      (NV3x)
[ 79763.954] 	GeForce 6       (NV4x)
[ 79763.954] 	GeForce 7       (G7x)
[ 79763.954] 	GeForce 8       (G8x)
[ 79763.954] 	GeForce GTX 200 (NVA0)
[ 79763.954] 	GeForce GTX 400 (NVC0)
[ 79763.954] (++) using VT number 2

[ 79763.954] (EE) No devices detected.
[ 79763.954] (EE) 
Fatal server error:
[ 79763.954] (EE) no screens found(EE) 
[ 79763.954] (EE) 
Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support 
	 at http://wiki.x.org
 for help. 
[ 79763.954] (EE) Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information.
[ 79763.954] (EE) 

Config:

Section "ServerLayout
    Identifier  "Layout0"
    Option      "AutoAddDevices" "false"
    Option      "AutoAddGPU" "true"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier  "DiscreteNvidia"
    Driver      "nouveau"

#   If the X server does not automatically detect your VGA device,
#   you can manually set it here.
#   To get the BusID prop, run `lspci | egrep 'VGA|3D'` and input the data
#   as you see in the commented example.
#   This Setting is needed on Ubuntu 13.04.
    BusID "PCI:1:0:0"

EndSection

Earlier, I said my Bumblebee wasn't working. I'm not sure what I did, but I fixed it. Running

optirun glxgears -info

produces a "Failed to find screens" error, because X isn't running.


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#22 2013-07-03 23:46:37

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Re: x.org refuses to start

So are you trying to use just the nvidia card (in which case you need to disable the intel one in bios probably as mentioned above) or to configure it with bumblebee? If the latter, don't you need the intel driver installed as well? I don't have optimus or know much about it but I thought that was the point of bumblebee...


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#23 2013-07-04 00:07:28

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Re: x.org refuses to start

cfr wrote:

So are you trying to use just the nvidia card (in which case you need to disable the intel one in bios probably as mentioned above) or to configure it with bumblebee? If the latter, don't you need the intel driver installed as well? I don't have optimus or know much about it but I thought that was the point of bumblebee...

I'm not too sure, that's the problem. On the Arch Wiki page for Bumblebee (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Bu … .2FNouveau), it doesn't say to get the Intel driver, but it does if you are looking to use the NVIDIA driver rather than nouveau. I looked through my BIOS settings, and there was nothing relevant to disabling the motherboard card. I thought Bumblebee could be configured to just use the NVIDIA card, which is what I was trying to do. Anyways, I just got the Intel drivers, and still no change in anything.


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#24 2013-07-04 00:14:32

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Re: x.org refuses to start

That seems odd to me as far as I know the point of bumblebee is to use both cards and you must then need the drivers for both. Scroll up the page you linked to and read the description: the point of bumblebee is to use both cards, disabling the nvidia card when appropriate. So if you just want to use that card, you don't want or need bumblebee. In that case, you just need to figure out how to disable the intel card.

EDIT: Note that you can use bumblebee to disable the *nvidia* card. Perhaps that is what you were thinking of?

Last edited by cfr (2013-07-04 00:17:10)


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#25 2013-07-04 00:28:15

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Re: x.org refuses to start

cfr wrote:

That seems odd to me as far as I know the point of bumblebee is to use both cards and you must then need the drivers for both. Scroll up the page you linked to and read the description: the point of bumblebee is to use both cards, disabling the nvidia card when appropriate. So if you just want to use that card, you don't want or need bumblebee. In that case, you just need to figure out how to disable the intel card.

EDIT: Note that you can use bumblebee to disable the *nvidia* card. Perhaps that is what you were thinking of?

Well, both cards would be okay to save power, that's what it did on windows. Anyways, as I said in my last post, I got the Intel driver also, and no change in anything.

thanks for your help so far though!


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