How must be configured the sound in KDE?

felipe · 2013-07-07 16:31:34

Hello

I have installed alsa and pulseaudio and configure . In gnome 3 the sound work perfect. But in KDE not, have installed phonon-gstreamer and somedays work fine other not, and i have to select in VLC to use the alsa output, I don't have individual sound control for apps, some days yes.

And always get a message about "Falling back to default" on start. That troubles i have since the 2012 or even 2009

Last edited by felipe (2013-07-07 16:36:45)

cfr · 2013-07-07 17:49:40

I get the falling back message a lot too but every time I test the set up through KDE's system settings, everything works fine. And the sound seems to work OK though I don't use it much. I did have the impression that it said that if sound was muted on boot but I'm not sure if that's right as it doesn't always happen.

Opanos · 2013-07-07 19:24:15

I am on that problem too.
This message starts to appear to me after installation of the gnome DE.

Dont recall if there is any update about alsa and/or pulseaudio though.

donniezazen · 2013-07-07 22:37:36

KDE keeps telling me that device has been removed which is not the case and then it switches to dummy output. It seems to be a common problem but I haven't had time to read up on it.

cfr · 2013-07-07 23:11:25

I don't use pulseaudio (except insofar as minor bits are pulled in as dependencies) but only alsa. I wonder if that makes a difference?

I'm also using the gstreamer backend which is what was mentioned above.

Thinking about it, I haven't seen the error message the last few times I've booted but I have seen it recently - sometimes after waking from sleep, sometimes on reboot. But, as I say, sound still seems to work.

Do the devices show up in system settings? If so, do they work if you test them?

felipe · 2013-07-08 15:38:30

I have seen four devices, two usb headset(repeated), onboard audio, and ATI card hdmi sound, Somedays i get sound in the test speaker another days not(from the usb cards). i dont have more access to my arch partition because a specific Windows 8 "feature" so i can't give you more detail.

firekage · 2013-07-08 17:50:47

This is related to randomly switching "places" of detected sound devices. If you want to have sound on the same device, after reboot, after suspend, in KDE, you have to create sound config file, place it in /etc/modprobe.d/

See this:

cat alsa-base.conf 
options snd slots=snd_hda_intel,snd_SB-XFI
options snd_hda_intel index=0
options snd_SB_XFi index=1
#options snd_SB_XFI index=2
#options snd_ctxfi index=2

If i had not created it, than on every reboot, every suspend and wake it up, my cards would switches places and i would not have sound. In this config, my primary card is intel sound card (as a matter of fact this is only the driver for it, the sound card in fact is VIA integrated chipset operating on intel drive) and XFI that has "1' passed to config. What it means? Use as a secod device.

BTW -

 options snd slots=

is new order of setting devices here, old one is this:

options snd_hda_intel index=xxxx

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donniezazen · 2013-07-11 14:08:23

@firekage It worked initially but after a few reboots it doesn't seem to work. i am booting with no sound.

henk · 2013-07-11 15:54:56

For what it is worth, I use pulseaudio with a few alsa packages (alsa-lib alsa-plugins pulseaudio-alsa), because they were sort of
recommended during the install. Perhaps a difference is that I chose phonon-vlc over phonon-gstreamer.
In KDE I removed kmix and just use the pulseaudio volume control.
And I almost don't dare to write this down, but I have no problems with sound.

donniezazen · 2013-07-11 16:22:37

Pulseaudio volume control. What package are we talking about?

I found pavucontrol which doesn't seem to have system tray applet.

Edit:- Added more info.

Last edited by donniezazen (2013-07-11 16:50:06)

henk · 2013-07-11 17:45:26

Correct, pavucontrol doensn't have a systemtray applet.
You can find it in the menu under 'Multimedia', and - if you want-
just rightclick and add it to the panel

cfr · 2013-07-11 21:37:07

henk wrote:

For what it is worth, I use pulseaudio with a few alsa packages (alsa-lib alsa-plugins pulseaudio-alsa), because they were sort of
recommended during the install.

Maybe you could link to the instructions you followed?

donniezazen · 2013-07-11 23:47:59

@henk There is no system tray for pavucontrol so I an not sure how you are able to get in your panel. In fact there is no add to panel option. The only option I have is to add it to favorite.

@cfr He is probably talking about Pulseaudio Archwiki.

cfr · 2013-07-11 23:54:17

Thanks. I guess I didn't think of that as part of the install but I guess it is if you follow all of the tangential links...

Did you check that widgets weren't locked before trying to add it to the panel? The cashew thing offers a menu with the relevant option if they are locked.

donniezazen · 2013-07-12 02:00:49

@cfr Thanks for the tip. Since it doesn't come with systray it isn't a great solution but better than what I have. There's also veromix.

henk · 2013-07-12 03:52:15

cfr wrote:

henk wrote:
For what it is worth, I use pulseaudio with a few alsa packages (alsa-lib alsa-plugins pulseaudio-alsa), because they were sort of
recommended during the install.
Maybe you could link to the instructions you followed?

The pacman cache from my initial install is long gone, so I'm not able to show you that output, sorry.
As for instructions, I just installed those packages with the dependecies I thouhgt would be neccesary.
And it just worked.

donniezazen wrote:

so I an not sure how you are able to get in your panel. In fact there is no add to panel option.
The only option I have is to add it to favorite.

That's a bit weird. Maybe it is because I use the classic panel.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/573 … s/Menu.png

donniezazen · 2013-07-12 03:55:46

Thanks I was suppose to unlock widgets. After that I was able to add it to panel.

firekage · 2013-07-12 15:17:28

donniezazen wrote:

@firekage It worked initially but after a few reboots it doesn't seem to work. i am booting with no sound.

So, you propably set their ordering wrong. This metod is also useable on all KDE desktop - Slackware had the same problem. You have to find out name of your sound card/drivers and put them in correct order.

donniezazen · 2013-07-12 15:56:54

@firekage, order is correct as you have posted above. It is working again. I might be having some other problem like KDE hanging in at start.

henk · 2013-07-12 16:25:51

KDE hanging in at start is probably caused by the pulseaudio volumecontrol fighting a bit with kmix and Klipper in the panel.
Once I had those two removed from the panel KDE started normally.

donniezazen · 2013-07-19 16:39:04

On a new installation I used load-module module-device-manager from [1]. And it seems to have solved my problem.

[1]https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pu … es_and_Qt4

Thaodan · 2013-07-19 20:42:59

Why don't use veromix or even kmix? both provide a widget in taskbar and work without any issue.
BTW: kmix don't has any sound and when its used from phonon.

Last edited by Thaodan (2013-07-19 20:43:15)

donniezazen · 2013-07-19 21:57:44

@Thaodan I do use kmix but the problem here is not kmix or veromix but KDE removing sound devices.

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