The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Unia · 2013-07-10 16:06:40

Catalyst-daemon? Double check this, please. Catalyst-daemon isn't compatible with systemd, which you are most likely using.

Luye · 2013-07-10 23:14:27

Hi, thanks for the tip. I tried both catalyst and catalyst-generator, but not much has changed other than that I can now box stuff on the desktop. Xrandr still doesnt recognize the monitor as connected despite output, and dragging windows to it is the same as before. It is weird, the last thing I was expecting was a partial fix.

Edit: It seems like switching to xinerama and back fixed the issue. I'm still not sure what the issue was. Thinking I might have had an old fglrx module active, and installing catalyst-daemon cleaned it up. Thanks anyways

Last edited by Luye (2013-07-11 01:54:56)

zoqaeski · 2013-07-11 01:15:24

Vi0L0 wrote:

zoqaeski wrote:
If any of you use lightdm as a display manager along with atieventsd, you’ll need to patch /etc/ati/authatieventsd.sh so it can find where lightdm stores the X authority data. Here’s a modification that works for me.
Looks useful, can I borrow it from you and use inside catalyst-utils?

Sorry for the late reply, but sure; you’re a more skilled programmer/dev than me so you can probably improve it too. As far as I know it doesn’t eat babies, but you can never be sure with these things.

Last edited by zoqaeski (2013-07-11 01:16:04)

Sheva · 2013-07-12 13:50:07

Hi folks,
I'm pretty new to Arch Linux and tried to install gala + plank on my system. Problem is: Even after compiling and installing them, gala won't start. My system freezes when I try to and I have to killall X to get back to my previous states. That being said, I fear the problem lurks around the drivers, as I was not able to compile gala + plank with the propreatary drivers, but with the open source ones. Still, even with the open source ones, I cannot get gala to run. I've made backups of my .config and all that stuff, but I have no idea what to do to get gala running. Can anyone help me out on this?

jones · 2013-07-14 17:21:23

Hi folks.

So I am in the last steps of setting up my system. However the one thing that keeps me getting there is the fan speed of my Gigabyte OC 7870. It's quite annoying and just impossible to work like that more than hour. Due to the wiki's clear stance against Catalyst I decided to not install it. Not that I follow any advice on the wiki to the letter overall but it's just the next best advice I got. Also, the last pages read like a nightmare, always using some additional build (although I can understand that it's highly appreciated by all users!).

For finding out more about using xf86-video-ati I have been to hell and back on google. So far I've found that influencing the card's performance is the way to go. So I have already added radeon.modeset=1 to the boot options and added "radeon" as a module to mkinitcpio.conf and rebuild the initrd (must say I don't know if I'm saying this right). Then I used, according to http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/

echo dynpm > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_method

and/or

echo low > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile

But nothing changed, at least no in the following ~20 minutes I did something in Arch.

Does anyone have any more pointers?

snack · 2013-07-14 20:42:13

henrik wrote:

Does anyone have any more pointers?

Only one: since you stated that you are not using the catalyst driver, it's a bit unlikely that you will find help here in the catalyst thread... Try posting in the radeon ope source driver thread.

Anon11 · 2013-07-15 03:48:42

henrik wrote:

Hi folks.
So I am in the last steps of setting up my system. However the one thing that keeps me getting there is the fan speed of my Gigabyte OC 7870. It's quite annoying and just impossible to work like that more than hour. Due to the wiki's clear stance against Catalyst I decided to not install it. Not that I follow any advice on the wiki to the letter overall but it's just the next best advice I got. Also, the last pages read like a nightmare, always using some additional build (although I can understand that it's highly appreciated by all users!).
For finding out more about using xf86-video-ati I have been to hell and back on google. So far I've found that influencing the card's performance is the way to go. So I have already added radeon.modeset=1 to the boot options and added "radeon" as a module to mkinitcpio.conf and rebuild the initrd (must say I don't know if I'm saying this right). Then I used, according to http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/
echo dynpm > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_method
and/or
echo low > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile
But nothing changed, at least no in the following ~20 minutes I did something in Arch.
Does anyone have any more pointers?

This used to work in my laptop ( dynpm was still hot )

echo "profile" > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_method
echo "low" > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile

Even so , catalyst is better for PM than radeon right now. It gives me atleast 10 C less on my laptop.

Kernel 3.11 will have changes that should bring radeon on par with catalyst for PM
I will change to it once its stable.

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=n … px=MTM5NjE

jones · 2013-07-15 09:16:47

snack wrote:

henrik wrote:
Does anyone have any more pointers?
Only one: since you stated that you are not using the catalyst driver, it's a bit unlikely that you will find help here in the catalyst thread... Try posting in the radeon ope source driver thread.

Oh, you're right, sorry.

Anon11 wrote:

This used to work in my laptop ( dynpm was still hot )
echo "profile" > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_method
echo "low" > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile

I am pretty sure that did something, but only to a minimal amount. It is now a liiiitle bit more quiet than before.

Even so , catalyst is better for PM than radeon right now. It gives me atleast 10 C less on my laptop.
Kernel 3.11 will have changes that should bring radeon on par with catalyst for PM
I will change to it once its stable.
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=n … px=MTM5NjE

Interesting, think I'll consider that too!

lano1106 · 2013-07-16 05:27:46

Vi0L0 wrote:

@lano1106:
tomorrow I will check is 13.4 still spamming and add the comment into bug report, for now I can only say that also firepro driver in version 12.104.2 got this bug.
As for the depmod I am surprised that catalyst-generator didn't do that for you because it has got depmod inside /usr/share/ati/build_mod/catalyst.install file which is used by catalyst_build_module's makepkg.
Can you comment rm -rf "${workdir}" line on /usr/bin/catalyst_build_module and after running catalyst_build_module check what's inside /tmp/catalyst.XXXXXX/catalyst.install (XXXXXX is random)?

You're right. depmod is called from the install script. My guess: If old uncompressed kernel mod file is laying around when depmod is called, it will prefer uncompressed version over the gzipped one.

At some point, for some unknown reason, I got an uncompressed version of fglrx and until I realised the problem, I was stuck into a vicious circle everytime I was rebuilding catalyst!

pYrO1v1aniac · 2013-07-21 11:09:13

A bit of a segue here, but does anyone know of a repo or package for arch of the latest xf86-video-ati plus the new gallium with DX9 support (or wine package) and any other packages we might need to test out the performance improvements. I'd love to run some benchmarks against the new catalyst (13.7? 13.8?) whenever it's released.

EDIT: Sorry, I found the relevant thread, apologies.

Last edited by pYrO1v1aniac (2013-07-21 11:15:14)

12eason · 2013-07-23 19:31:12

http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pa … river.aspx

Vi0L0 · 2013-07-24 07:39:42

I've been pretty busy, but latelly I've cleaned up catalyst repo from some archive repositories, the ones which weren't mentioned latelly. I had to do this because there was no space left. No one noticed it so I guess it wasn't that bad.
I've also update repos with amdapp-sdk and amdapp-codexl packages. amdapp-sdk @ AUR is from now on a splitted package with 3 packages inside:
amdapp-sdk :: main package
amdapp-sdk-aparapi :: AparapiUtil and aparapi samples
amdapp-sdk-opencv :: OpenCVUtils and opencv samples

@zoqaeski:
ok, thanks, I will borrow it then

lano1106 wrote:

At some point, for some unknown reason, I got an uncompressed version of fglrx and until I realised the problem, I was stuck into a vicious circle everytime I was rebuilding catalyst!

maybe I will implement some function into catalyst_build_module which will remove every fglrx module, also the one created by some other soft.

12eason wrote:

http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pa … river.aspx

thanks for the head up! I will look at it after getting back from work. I didn't find any information about supported xorg-servers, but it look like 1.14 isn't supported:

nm -Ca xpic_64a/usr/X11R6/lib64/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so | grep xserver114

returns nothing.
Interesting coincidence that catalyst with opengl 4.3 support was released one day after nvidia's driver with opengl 4.4 support.

Last edited by Vi0L0 (2013-07-24 07:42:21)

brittyazel · 2013-07-24 07:49:40

Nice work on that laggyness fix Violo, I will just keep tear free disabled for the time being, but man is it nice to have smooth snappy window moving back!!!

Also, as per Phoronix, the new 13.7 beta hit yesterday: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=n … px=MTQxODU
(There is a rumor that the 13.7 final will drop on the 31st fyi)

It looks like this beta has cleaned up some code and fixed some issues with maya and source games.

Since it is an update to the 13.6 beta which had xorg server 1.14 support, I am assuming that this one will as well.

Vi0L0 · 2013-07-24 20:05:20

brittyazel wrote:

Since it is an update to the 13.6 beta which had xorg server 1.14 support, I am assuming that this one will as well.

Yes, turned out that it does support xorg-server 1.14, it's just missing symbols
I've updated catalyst-test@AUR, but it's rather imposible that I will find time today to update [catalyst] repo, expect it tomorrow then, anyway here's my experience on hd 7850 (in comparison to 13.6 beta):
- still same laggy DE behaviour when compositing and Tear-Free Desktop are enabled: http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=838
- games performance is better, serious sam 3 just a tiny bit, but left 4 dead 2 shines like on windows
- unigine haeven and valley works a bit better
- opencl performance is pretty same (tested on oclHashcat), amdapp-sdk samples are working fine except for GL ones, which aren't rendering correctly
- i added zoqaeski's patch for authatieventsd' lightdm

andy123 · 2013-07-24 20:39:58

Any news on the brightness bug with this release? I still have to write a few (hundred, thousand, …?) times to this file in /sys/ to change the brightness on my laptop (with the release before this one).

snowblind · 2013-07-24 20:47:51

Vi0L0 wrote:

brittyazel wrote:
Since it is an update to the 13.6 beta which had xorg server 1.14 support, I am assuming that this one will as well.
Yes, turned out that it does support xorg-server 1.14, it's just missing symbols
I've updated catalyst-test@AUR, but it's rather imposible that I will find time today to update [catalyst] repo, expect it tomorrow then, anyway here's my experience on hd 7850 (in comparison to 13.6 beta):
- still same laggy DE behaviour when compositing and Tear-Free Desktop are enabled: http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=838
- games performance is better, serious sam 3 just a tiny bit, but left 4 dead 2 shines like on windows
- unigine haeven and valley works a bit better
- opencl performance is pretty same (tested on oclHashcat), amdapp-sdk samples are working fine except for GL ones, which aren't rendering correctly
- i added zoqaeski's patch for authatieventsd' lightdm

Does this include support for PXP/Enduro laptops? I know that the raw ATI drivers (off their site) should automatically support Enduro/PXP, but that's all been shaky at best.

Vi0L0 · 2013-07-24 21:11:00

btw: about great i/o catalyst bug:
catalyst opengl 4.3 beta generates 1 rewrite of amdpcsdb and 1 open of atiapfxx.blb / per gl app

snowblind wrote:

Vi0L0 wrote:
...
Does this include support for PXP/Enduro laptops?

Not catalyst-test, atm there's no pxp package on the aur for beta drivers, but you can always download catalyst-utils-pxp and lib32-catalyst-utils-pxp from catalyst repo (it will be, like said, updated tomorrow)

clfarron4 · 2013-07-24 22:34:02

Hmm... I'm still having problems with not being able to set my brightness on my AMD Radeon 6480G HD without having to use this useful script given a few pages back.

I'm trying to get it so that about 15 seconds after log-in, mate-terminal runs the script, asking for my password (of course, it comes up with a password prompt). Sometimes it works and other times it doesn't... The code I am using is

 #! /usr/bin/bash
sleep 15
#conky
mate-terminal --command="sudo sh ~/modify-brightness set 2"

What do you think?

Last edited by clfarron4 (2013-07-24 22:34:18)

causa-prima · 2013-07-25 23:49:11

Sorry for crossposting, but I've got a problem with underscan I thought you guys might be able to help me with.

ChemBro · 2013-07-26 13:56:58

So there is now a Catalyst 13.7 driver in the repo. What is that? I thought that version will be out next week. I looked at the AMD website and it says 13.4 stable and 13.6 beta and I know, that there is the 13.15 beta driver for OpenGL 4.3, but what is this 13.7 driver?

Vi0L0 · 2013-07-26 14:26:37

ChemBro wrote:

So there is now a Catalyst 13.7 driver in the repo. What is that? I thought that version will be out next week. I looked at the AMD website and it says 13.4 stable and 13.6 beta and I know, that there is the 13.15 beta driver for OpenGL 4.3, but what is this 13.7 driver?

I versioned it that way simply to avoid problems with next update. 13.15.100.1 - actual version - doesn't look good.
Besides you can always check out package description with pacman -Qi, there you will find right version.

Shinto · 2013-07-26 15:37:54

Upgrading to 13.7 freezes my KDE desktop after 5 seconds...
I can't find anything useful in the logs. Any ideas?

ChemBro · 2013-07-26 20:53:26

Shinto wrote:

Upgrading to 13.7 freezes my KDE desktop after 5 seconds...
I can't find anything useful in the logs. Any ideas?

You are the third that says, that 13.7-1 freezes your system. Downgrading should be the solution. 13.7-1 seems to be very unstable.

Vi0L0 · 2013-07-26 21:12:04

Is disabling ie. tear-free or kwin helping?

BTW: i'm amazed by dota 2, was always thinking that such games are for kids, but now i see what its all about , been playing of it for about 2 hours on "13.7-1" without freeze or slow down.
I'm also surprised that catalyst is working so well with nvidia's togl - yeah surelly it's not a crysis 3, but still. Hmm... good job valve?

Last edited by Vi0L0 (2013-07-26 21:30:58)

Ftroop · 2013-07-27 05:54:44

yeah agree ViOLO dota2 is super smooth with 13.7 and the game is very addictive

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