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Rydberg95

Member

From: Stockholm, Sweden

Registered: 2013-01-25

Posts: 51

Strange Lagging in GNOME and KDE

Hey there!

I installed arch and Gnome (and later tried) on my desktop computer today and it worked free from lag for about one hour. Now it's behaving very strange, and I've been close to throwing my monitors out the window about 20 times.

However, I don't know what's causing the problem and therefore don't know how to fix it. I will try to describe this mysterious lagging:

Sometimes when I'm surfing the web with chromium (or using any other application so far) the windows kind of freeze. I'm unable to click anything in the window, and I can't go to the "Activities" in the top left corner. It always happens when I'm running the terminal (rxvt) and chromium at the same time. I can't change the focus of the windows by clicking on them, but I can change the focus by alt-tabbing.

Can I debug this or something, cause now it's close to unusable? (I'm quite new to arch, so please don't reply with ultra-advanced maneuvers)

Last edited by Rydberg95 (2013-07-23 19:37:35)

Jodell

Member

Registered: 2009-10-09

Posts: 285

Re: Strange Lagging in GNOME and KDE

What's your graphics card?

Check dmesg or Xorg.0.log after it freezes to see if there's anything weird.

Rydberg95

Member

From: Stockholm, Sweden

Registered: 2013-01-25

Posts: 51

Re: Strange Lagging in GNOME and KDE

My graphics card is a Nvidia GTX660, but I don't think it has to do with the graphics, since it's mostly the focus of the windows that isn't functioning properly. Sometimes when I'm in a program that I have focused, I can't even click anything in it (for example i can't scroll or click links in chromium).

Here's my Xorg.0.log anyways:

[     9.052] 
X.Org X Server 1.14.2
Release Date: 2013-06-25
[     9.052] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
[     9.052] Build Operating System: Linux 3.9.7-1-ARCH x86_64 
[     9.052] Current Operating System: Linux hackycracky 3.9.9-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Jul 3 22:45:16 CEST 2013 x86_64
[     9.052] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-linux root=UUID=9bd81756-d741-46bd-8604-5c542ff1125e ro quiet
[     9.052] Build Date: 01 July 2013  10:48:42AM
[     9.052]  
[     9.052] Current version of pixman: 0.30.0
[     9.052] 	Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
	to make sure that you have the latest version.
[     9.052] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
	(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
	(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[     9.052] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Tue Jul 23 11:34:00 2013
[     9.115] (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[     9.115] (==) Using config directory: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d"
[     9.178] (==) ServerLayout "Layout0"
[     9.178] (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0)
[     9.178] (**) |   |-->Monitor "Monitor0"
[     9.178] (**) |   |-->Device "Device0"
[     9.178] (**) |-->Input Device "evdev keyboard catchall"
[     9.178] (**) |-->Input Device "Evdev Mouse"
[     9.178] (==) Automatically adding devices
[     9.178] (==) Automatically enabling devices
[     9.178] (==) Automatically adding GPU devices
[     9.197] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/OTF/" does not exist.
[     9.197] 	Entry deleted from font path.
[     9.197] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/" does not exist.
[     9.197] 	Entry deleted from font path.
[     9.197] (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/".
[     9.197] 	Entry deleted from font path.
[     9.197] 	(Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/").
[     9.197] (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/".
[     9.197] 	Entry deleted from font path.
[     9.197] 	(Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/").
[     9.197] (==) FontPath set to:
	/usr/share/fonts/misc/,
	/usr/share/fonts/TTF/
[     9.197] (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
[     9.198] (II) Loader magic: 0x7fdc20
[     9.198] (II) Module ABI versions:
[     9.198] 	X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
[     9.198] 	X.Org Video Driver: 14.1
[     9.198] 	X.Org XInput driver : 19.1
[     9.198] 	X.Org Server Extension : 7.0
[     9.198] (II) xfree86: Adding drm device (/dev/dri/card0)
[     9.200] (--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 10de:11c0:1458:354e rev 161, Mem @ 0xf9000000/16777216, 0xe0000000/134217728, 0xee000000/33554432, I/O @ 0x0000af00/128, BIOS @ 0x????????/524288
[     9.201] Initializing built-in extension Generic Event Extension
[     9.201] Initializing built-in extension SHAPE
[     9.201] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM
[     9.201] Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension
[     9.201] Initializing built-in extension XTEST
[     9.201] Initializing built-in extension BIG-REQUESTS
[     9.201] Initializing built-in extension SYNC
[     9.201] Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD
[     9.201] Initializing built-in extension XC-MISC
[     9.201] Initializing built-in extension SECURITY
[     9.201] Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA
[     9.201] Initializing built-in extension XFIXES
[     9.201] Initializing built-in extension RENDER
[     9.201] Initializing built-in extension RANDR
[     9.201] Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE
[     9.201] Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE
[     9.201] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[     9.201] Initializing built-in extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
[     9.201] Initializing built-in extension RECORD
[     9.201] Initializing built-in extension DPMS
[     9.201] Initializing built-in extension X-Resource
[     9.201] Initializing built-in extension XVideo
[     9.201] Initializing built-in extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
[     9.201] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
[     9.201] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-DGA
[     9.201] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-DRI
[     9.201] Initializing built-in extension DRI2
[     9.201] (II) LoadModule: "glx"
[     9.231] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
[    10.226] (II) Module glx: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
[    10.226] 	compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
[    10.226] 	Module class: X.Org Server Extension
[    10.226] (II) NVIDIA GLX Module  319.32  Wed Jun 19 14:55:38 PDT 2013
[    10.234] Loading extension GLX
[    10.234] (II) LoadModule: "nvidia"
[    10.234] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so
[    10.311] (II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
[    10.311] 	compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
[    10.311] 	Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[    10.332] (II) LoadModule: "evdev"
[    10.332] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/evdev_drv.so
[    10.343] (II) Module evdev: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[    10.343] 	compiled for 1.14.2, module version = 2.8.1
[    10.343] 	Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
[    10.343] 	ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 19.1
[    10.343] (II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver  319.32  Wed Jun 19 14:34:12 PDT 2013
[    10.343] (II) NVIDIA Unified Driver for all Supported NVIDIA GPUs
[    10.353] (++) using VT number 1

[    10.354] (II) Loading sub module "fb"
[    10.354] (II) LoadModule: "fb"
[    10.362] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libfb.so
[    10.379] (II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[    10.379] 	compiled for 1.14.2, module version = 1.0.0
[    10.379] 	ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4
[    10.379] (WW) Unresolved symbol: fbGetGCPrivateKey
[    10.379] (II) Loading sub module "wfb"
[    10.379] (II) LoadModule: "wfb"
[    10.379] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so
[    10.386] (II) Module wfb: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[    10.386] 	compiled for 1.14.2, module version = 1.0.0
[    10.386] 	ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4
[    10.386] (II) Loading sub module "shadow"
[    10.386] (II) LoadModule: "shadow"
[    10.386] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libshadow.so
[    10.387] (II) Module shadow: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[    10.387] 	compiled for 1.14.2, module version = 1.1.0
[    10.387] 	ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4
[    10.387] (II) Loading sub module "ramdac"
[    10.387] (II) LoadModule: "ramdac"
[    10.387] (II) Module "ramdac" already built-in
[    10.395] (**) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
[    10.395] (==) NVIDIA(0): RGB weight 888
[    10.395] (==) NVIDIA(0): Default visual is TrueColor
[    10.395] (==) NVIDIA(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
[    10.395] (**) NVIDIA(0): Enabling 2D acceleration
[    11.004] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Display (BenQ GL2450 (DFP-0)) does not support NVIDIA 3D
[    11.004] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0):     Vision stereo.
[    11.009] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Display (BenQ G2420HDBL (DFP-3)) does not support NVIDIA 3D
[    11.009] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0):     Vision stereo.
[    11.011] (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU GeForce GTX 660 (GK106) at PCI:1:0:0 (GPU-0)
[    11.011] (--) NVIDIA(0): Memory: 2097152 kBytes
[    11.011] (--) NVIDIA(0): VideoBIOS: 80.06.28.00.66
[    11.011] (II) NVIDIA(0): Detected PCI Express Link width: 16X
[    11.015] (--) NVIDIA(0): Valid display device(s) on GeForce GTX 660 at PCI:1:0:0
[    11.015] (--) NVIDIA(0):     CRT-0
[    11.015] (--) NVIDIA(0):     BenQ GL2450 (DFP-0) (boot, connected)
[    11.015] (--) NVIDIA(0):     DFP-1
[    11.015] (--) NVIDIA(0):     DFP-2
[    11.015] (--) NVIDIA(0):     BenQ G2420HDBL (DFP-3) (connected)
[    11.015] (--) NVIDIA(0):     DFP-4
[    11.015] (--) NVIDIA(0): CRT-0: 400.0 MHz maximum pixel clock
[    11.015] (--) NVIDIA(0): BenQ GL2450 (DFP-0): 330.0 MHz maximum pixel clock
[    11.015] (--) NVIDIA(0): BenQ GL2450 (DFP-0): Internal Dual Link TMDS
[    11.015] (--) NVIDIA(0): DFP-1: 165.0 MHz maximum pixel clock
[    11.015] (--) NVIDIA(0): DFP-1: Internal Single Link TMDS
[    11.015] (--) NVIDIA(0): DFP-2: 165.0 MHz maximum pixel clock
[    11.015] (--) NVIDIA(0): DFP-2: Internal Single Link TMDS
[    11.016] (--) NVIDIA(0): BenQ G2420HDBL (DFP-3): 330.0 MHz maximum pixel clock
[    11.016] (--) NVIDIA(0): BenQ G2420HDBL (DFP-3): Internal Dual Link TMDS
[    11.016] (--) NVIDIA(0): DFP-4: 960.0 MHz maximum pixel clock
[    11.016] (--) NVIDIA(0): DFP-4: Internal DisplayPort
[    11.016] (**) NVIDIA(0): Using HorizSync/VertRefresh ranges from the EDID for display
[    11.016] (**) NVIDIA(0):     device BenQ GL2450 (DFP-0) (Using EDID frequencies has
[    11.016] (**) NVIDIA(0):     been enabled on all display devices.)
[    11.018] (**) NVIDIA(0): Using HorizSync/VertRefresh ranges from the EDID for display
[    11.018] (**) NVIDIA(0):     device BenQ G2420HDBL (DFP-3) (Using EDID frequencies has
[    11.018] (**) NVIDIA(0):     been enabled on all display devices.)
[    11.019] (==) NVIDIA(0): 
[    11.020] (==) NVIDIA(0): No modes were requested; the default mode "nvidia-auto-select"
[    11.020] (==) NVIDIA(0):     will be used as the requested mode.
[    11.020] (==) NVIDIA(0): 
[    11.020] (II) NVIDIA(0): Validated MetaModes:
[    11.020] (II) NVIDIA(0):     "DFP-0:nvidia-auto-select{},DFP-3:nvidia-auto-select{}"
[    11.020] (II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 3840 x 1080
[    11.063] (--) NVIDIA(0): DPI set to (92, 91); computed from "UseEdidDpi" X config
[    11.063] (--) NVIDIA(0):     option
[    11.063] (--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp
[    11.064] (II) NVIDIA: Using 3072.00 MB of virtual memory for indirect memory
[    11.064] (II) NVIDIA:     access.
[    11.067] (II) NVIDIA(0): ACPI: failed to connect to the ACPI event daemon; the daemon
[    11.067] (II) NVIDIA(0):     may not be running or the "AcpidSocketPath" X
[    11.067] (II) NVIDIA(0):     configuration option may not be set correctly.  When the
[    11.067] (II) NVIDIA(0):     ACPI event daemon is available, the NVIDIA X driver will
[    11.067] (II) NVIDIA(0):     try to use it to receive ACPI event notifications.  For
[    11.067] (II) NVIDIA(0):     details, please see the "ConnectToAcpid" and
[    11.067] (II) NVIDIA(0):     "AcpidSocketPath" X configuration options in Appendix B: X
[    11.067] (II) NVIDIA(0):     Config Options in the README.
[    11.071] (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "DFP-0:nvidia-auto-select{},DFP-3:nvidia-auto-select{}"
[    11.195] Loading extension NV-GLX
[    11.267] (==) NVIDIA(0): Disabling shared memory pixmaps
[    11.267] (==) NVIDIA(0): Backing store disabled
[    11.267] (==) NVIDIA(0): Silken mouse enabled
[    11.267] (**) NVIDIA(0): DPMS enabled
[    11.267] Loading extension NV-CONTROL
[    11.268] Loading extension XINERAMA
[    11.268] (II) Loading sub module "dri2"
[    11.268] (II) LoadModule: "dri2"
[    11.268] (II) Module "dri2" already built-in
[    11.268] (II) NVIDIA(0): [DRI2] Setup complete
[    11.268] (II) NVIDIA(0): [DRI2]   VDPAU driver: nvidia
[    11.268] (--) RandR disabled
[    11.272] (II) Initializing extension GLX
[    11.536] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'evdev keyboard catchall'
[    11.536] (**) Option "CoreKeyboard"
[    11.536] (**) evdev keyboard catchall: always reports core events
[    11.536] (EE) evdev: evdev keyboard catchall: No device specified.
[    11.536] (EE) PreInit returned 2 for "evdev keyboard catchall"
[    11.536] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
[    11.536] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Evdev Mouse'
[    11.536] (**) Option "CorePointer"
[    11.536] (**) Evdev Mouse: always reports core events
[    11.536] (**) evdev: Evdev Mouse: Device: "/dev/psaux"
[    11.536] (EE) evdev: Evdev Mouse: ioctl EVIOCGBIT for bitmask in EvdevOpenMTDev failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[    11.536] (EE) Evdev Mouse: Couldn't open mtdev device
[    11.540] (EE) PreInit returned 2 for "Evdev Mouse"
[    11.540] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
[    11.541] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Power Button (/dev/input/event1)
[    11.541] (**) Power Button: Applying InputClass "evdev keyboard catchall"
[    11.541] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Power Button'
[    11.541] (**) Power Button: always reports core events
[    11.541] (**) evdev: Power Button: Device: "/dev/input/event1"
[    11.542] (--) evdev: Power Button: Vendor 0 Product 0x1
[    11.542] (--) evdev: Power Button: Found keys
[    11.542] (II) evdev: Power Button: Configuring as keyboard
[    11.542] (**) Option "config_info" "udev:/sys/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXPWRBN:00/input/input1/event1"
[    11.542] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Power Button" (type: KEYBOARD, id 6)
[    11.542] (**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
[    11.542] (**) Option "xkb_model" "pc104"
[    11.542] (**) Option "xkb_layout" "us"
[    11.565] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Power Button (/dev/input/event0)
[    11.565] (**) Power Button: Applying InputClass "evdev keyboard catchall"
[    11.565] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Power Button'
[    11.565] (**) Power Button: always reports core events
[    11.565] (**) evdev: Power Button: Device: "/dev/input/event0"
[    11.565] (--) evdev: Power Button: Vendor 0 Product 0x1
[    11.565] (--) evdev: Power Button: Found keys
[    11.565] (II) evdev: Power Button: Configuring as keyboard
[    11.565] (**) Option "config_info" "udev:/sys/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXSYBUS:00/PNP0C0C:00/input/input0/event0"
[    11.565] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Power Button" (type: KEYBOARD, id 7)
[    11.565] (**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
[    11.565] (**) Option "xkb_model" "pc104"
[    11.565] (**) Option "xkb_layout" "us"
[    11.566] (II) config/udev: Adding drm device (/dev/dri/card0)
[    11.566] (II) config/udev: Adding input device HDA NVidia HDMI/DP,pcm=9 (/dev/input/event18)
[    11.566] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    11.566] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[    11.567] (II) config/udev: Adding input device HDA NVidia HDMI/DP,pcm=8 (/dev/input/event19)
[    11.567] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    11.567] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[    11.567] (II) config/udev: Adding input device HDA NVidia HDMI/DP,pcm=7 (/dev/input/event20)
[    11.567] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    11.567] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[    11.568] (II) config/udev: Adding input device HDA NVidia HDMI/DP,pcm=3 (/dev/input/event21)
[    11.568] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    11.568] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[    11.568] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Saitek Cyborg R.A.T.3 Mouse (/dev/input/event16)
[    11.568] (**) Saitek Cyborg R.A.T.3 Mouse: Applying InputClass "evdev pointer catchall"
[    11.568] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Saitek Cyborg R.A.T.3 Mouse'
[    11.568] (**) Saitek Cyborg R.A.T.3 Mouse: always reports core events
[    11.568] (**) evdev: Saitek Cyborg R.A.T.3 Mouse: Device: "/dev/input/event16"
[    11.568] (--) evdev: Saitek Cyborg R.A.T.3 Mouse: Vendor 0x6a3 Product 0xccc
[    11.568] (--) evdev: Saitek Cyborg R.A.T.3 Mouse: Found 14 mouse buttons
[    11.568] (--) evdev: Saitek Cyborg R.A.T.3 Mouse: Found scroll wheel(s)
[    11.568] (--) evdev: Saitek Cyborg R.A.T.3 Mouse: Found relative axes
[    11.568] (--) evdev: Saitek Cyborg R.A.T.3 Mouse: Found x and y relative axes
[    11.568] (II) evdev: Saitek Cyborg R.A.T.3 Mouse: Configuring as mouse
[    11.568] (II) evdev: Saitek Cyborg R.A.T.3 Mouse: Adding scrollwheel support
[    11.568] (**) evdev: Saitek Cyborg R.A.T.3 Mouse: YAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
[    11.568] (**) evdev: Saitek Cyborg R.A.T.3 Mouse: EmulateWheelButton: 4, EmulateWheelInertia: 10, EmulateWheelTimeout: 200
[    11.568] (**) Option "config_info" "udev:/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1a.0/usb1/1-2/1-2:1.0/input/input16/event16"
[    11.568] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Saitek Cyborg R.A.T.3 Mouse" (type: MOUSE, id 8)
[    11.569] (II) evdev: Saitek Cyborg R.A.T.3 Mouse: initialized for relative axes.
[    11.569] (**) Saitek Cyborg R.A.T.3 Mouse: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1
[    11.569] (**) Saitek Cyborg R.A.T.3 Mouse: (accel) acceleration profile 0
[    11.569] (**) Saitek Cyborg R.A.T.3 Mouse: (accel) acceleration factor: 2.000
[    11.569] (**) Saitek Cyborg R.A.T.3 Mouse: (accel) acceleration threshold: 4
[    11.569] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Saitek Cyborg R.A.T.3 Mouse (/dev/input/mouse0)
[    11.569] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    11.569] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[    11.570] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Logitech Logitech G35 Headset (/dev/input/event17)
[    11.570] (**) Logitech Logitech G35 Headset: Applying InputClass "evdev keyboard catchall"
[    11.570] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Logitech Logitech G35 Headset'
[    11.570] (**) Logitech Logitech G35 Headset: always reports core events
[    11.570] (**) evdev: Logitech Logitech G35 Headset: Device: "/dev/input/event17"
[    11.570] (--) evdev: Logitech Logitech G35 Headset: Vendor 0x46d Product 0xa15
[    11.570] (--) evdev: Logitech Logitech G35 Headset: Found keys
[    11.570] (II) evdev: Logitech Logitech G35 Headset: Configuring as keyboard
[    11.570] (**) Option "config_info" "udev:/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1a.2/usb3/3-2/3-2:1.3/input/input17/event17"
[    11.570] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Logitech Logitech G35 Headset" (type: KEYBOARD, id 9)
[    11.570] (**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
[    11.570] (**) Option "xkb_model" "pc104"
[    11.570] (**) Option "xkb_layout" "us"
[    11.571] (II) config/udev: Adding input device HDA Digital PCBeep (/dev/input/event6)
[    11.571] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    11.571] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[    11.571] (II) config/udev: Adding input device HDA Intel MID Rear Mic (/dev/input/event10)
[    11.571] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    11.571] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[    11.572] (II) config/udev: Adding input device HDA Intel MID Front Headphone (/dev/input/event11)
[    11.572] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    11.572] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[    11.572] (II) config/udev: Adding input device HDA Intel MID Line Out Side (/dev/input/event12)
[    11.572] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    11.572] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[    11.573] (II) config/udev: Adding input device HDA Intel MID Line Out CLFE (/dev/input/event13)
[    11.573] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    11.573] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[    11.573] (II) config/udev: Adding input device HDA Intel MID Line Out Surround (/dev/input/event14)
[    11.573] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    11.573] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[    11.574] (II) config/udev: Adding input device HDA Intel MID Line Out Front (/dev/input/event15)
[    11.574] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    11.574] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[    11.574] (II) config/udev: Adding input device HDA Intel MID Line (/dev/input/event8)
[    11.574] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    11.574] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[    11.574] (II) config/udev: Adding input device HDA Intel MID Front Mic (/dev/input/event9)
[    11.574] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    11.574] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[    11.575] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Xbox 360 Wireless Receiver (XBOX) (/dev/input/event2)
[    11.575] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    11.575] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[    11.575] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Xbox 360 Wireless Receiver (XBOX) (/dev/input/js0)
[    11.575] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    11.575] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[    11.576] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Xbox 360 Wireless Receiver (XBOX) (/dev/input/event3)
[    11.576] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    11.576] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[    11.576] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Xbox 360 Wireless Receiver (XBOX) (/dev/input/js1)
[    11.576] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    11.576] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[    11.577] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Xbox 360 Wireless Receiver (XBOX) (/dev/input/event4)
[    11.577] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    11.577] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[    11.577] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Xbox 360 Wireless Receiver (XBOX) (/dev/input/js2)
[    11.577] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    11.577] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[    11.577] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Xbox 360 Wireless Receiver (XBOX) (/dev/input/event5)
[    11.577] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    11.577] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[    11.577] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Xbox 360 Wireless Receiver (XBOX) (/dev/input/js3)
[    11.577] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    11.577] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[    11.577] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Gaming Keyboard (/dev/input/event22)
[    11.577] (**) Gaming Keyboard: Applying InputClass "evdev keyboard catchall"
[    11.577] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Gaming Keyboard'
[    11.577] (**) Gaming Keyboard: always reports core events
[    11.577] (**) evdev: Gaming Keyboard: Device: "/dev/input/event22"
[    11.577] (--) evdev: Gaming Keyboard: Vendor 0x46d Product 0xc221
[    11.577] (--) evdev: Gaming Keyboard: Found keys
[    11.577] (II) evdev: Gaming Keyboard: Configuring as keyboard
[    11.577] (**) Option "config_info" "udev:/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.2/usb8/8-2/8-2.1/8-2.1:1.0/input/input22/event22"
[    11.577] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Gaming Keyboard" (type: KEYBOARD, id 10)
[    11.577] (**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
[    11.577] (**) Option "xkb_model" "pc104"
[    11.577] (**) Option "xkb_layout" "us"
[    11.578] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Gaming Keyboard (/dev/input/event23)
[    11.578] (**) Gaming Keyboard: Applying InputClass "evdev keyboard catchall"
[    11.578] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Gaming Keyboard'
[    11.578] (**) Gaming Keyboard: always reports core events
[    11.578] (**) evdev: Gaming Keyboard: Device: "/dev/input/event23"
[    11.578] (--) evdev: Gaming Keyboard: Vendor 0x46d Product 0xc221
[    11.578] (--) evdev: Gaming Keyboard: Found keys
[    11.578] (II) evdev: Gaming Keyboard: Configuring as keyboard
[    11.578] (**) Option "config_info" "udev:/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.2/usb8/8-2/8-2.1/8-2.1:1.1/input/input23/event23"
[    11.578] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Gaming Keyboard" (type: KEYBOARD, id 11)
[    11.578] (**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
[    11.578] (**) Option "xkb_model" "pc104"
[    11.578] (**) Option "xkb_layout" "us"
[    11.578] (II) config/udev: Adding input device G11 Keyboard (/dev/input/event24)
[    11.578] (**) G11 Keyboard: Applying InputClass "evdev keyboard catchall"
[    11.578] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'G11 Keyboard'
[    11.578] (**) G11 Keyboard: always reports core events
[    11.578] (**) evdev: G11 Keyboard: Device: "/dev/input/event24"
[    11.578] (--) evdev: G11 Keyboard: Vendor 0x46d Product 0xc225
[    11.578] (--) evdev: G11 Keyboard: Found keys
[    11.578] (II) evdev: G11 Keyboard: Configuring as keyboard
[    11.578] (**) Option "config_info" "udev:/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.2/usb8/8-2/8-2.4/8-2.4:1.0/input/input24/event24"
[    11.578] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "G11 Keyboard" (type: KEYBOARD, id 12)
[    11.578] (**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
[    11.578] (**) Option "xkb_model" "pc104"
[    11.578] (**) Option "xkb_layout" "us"
[    11.579] (II) config/udev: Adding input device PC Speaker (/dev/input/event7)
[    11.579] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    11.579] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[    13.569] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Display (BenQ GL2450 (DFP-0)) does not support NVIDIA 3D
[    13.569] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0):     Vision stereo.
[    13.569] (**) NVIDIA(0): Using HorizSync/VertRefresh ranges from the EDID for display
[    13.569] (**) NVIDIA(0):     device BenQ GL2450 (DFP-0) (Using EDID frequencies has
[    13.569] (**) NVIDIA(0):     been enabled on all display devices.)
[    13.575] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Display (BenQ G2420HDBL (DFP-3)) does not support NVIDIA 3D
[    13.575] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0):     Vision stereo.
[    13.575] (**) NVIDIA(0): Using HorizSync/VertRefresh ranges from the EDID for display
[    13.575] (**) NVIDIA(0):     device BenQ G2420HDBL (DFP-3) (Using EDID frequencies has
[    13.575] (**) NVIDIA(0):     been enabled on all display devices.)
[    16.080] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Display (BenQ GL2450 (DFP-0)) does not support NVIDIA 3D
[    16.080] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0):     Vision stereo.
[    16.080] (**) NVIDIA(0): Using HorizSync/VertRefresh ranges from the EDID for display
[    16.080] (**) NVIDIA(0):     device BenQ GL2450 (DFP-0) (Using EDID frequencies has
[    16.080] (**) NVIDIA(0):     been enabled on all display devices.)
[    16.086] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Display (BenQ G2420HDBL (DFP-3)) does not support NVIDIA 3D
[    16.086] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0):     Vision stereo.
[    16.087] (**) NVIDIA(0): Using HorizSync/VertRefresh ranges from the EDID for display
[    16.087] (**) NVIDIA(0):     device BenQ G2420HDBL (DFP-3) (Using EDID frequencies has
[    16.087] (**) NVIDIA(0):     been enabled on all display devices.)
[    16.110] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Display (BenQ GL2450 (DFP-0)) does not support NVIDIA 3D
[    16.110] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0):     Vision stereo.
[    16.110] (**) NVIDIA(0): Using HorizSync/VertRefresh ranges from the EDID for display
[    16.110] (**) NVIDIA(0):     device BenQ GL2450 (DFP-0) (Using EDID frequencies has
[    16.110] (**) NVIDIA(0):     been enabled on all display devices.)
[    16.116] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Display (BenQ G2420HDBL (DFP-3)) does not support NVIDIA 3D
[    16.116] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0):     Vision stereo.
[    16.116] (**) NVIDIA(0): Using HorizSync/VertRefresh ranges from the EDID for display
[    16.116] (**) NVIDIA(0):     device BenQ G2420HDBL (DFP-3) (Using EDID frequencies has
[    16.116] (**) NVIDIA(0):     been enabled on all display devices.)
[    32.186] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Display (BenQ GL2450 (DFP-0)) does not support NVIDIA 3D
[    32.186] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0):     Vision stereo.
[    32.186] (**) NVIDIA(0): Using HorizSync/VertRefresh ranges from the EDID for display
[    32.186] (**) NVIDIA(0):     device BenQ GL2450 (DFP-0) (Using EDID frequencies has
[    32.186] (**) NVIDIA(0):     been enabled on all display devices.)
[    32.192] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Display (BenQ G2420HDBL (DFP-3)) does not support NVIDIA 3D
[    32.192] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0):     Vision stereo.
[    32.192] (**) NVIDIA(0): Using HorizSync/VertRefresh ranges from the EDID for display
[    32.192] (**) NVIDIA(0):     device BenQ G2420HDBL (DFP-3) (Using EDID frequencies has
[    32.192] (**) NVIDIA(0):     been enabled on all display devices.)
[    32.596] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Display (BenQ GL2450 (DFP-0)) does not support NVIDIA 3D
[    32.596] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0):     Vision stereo.
[    32.596] (**) NVIDIA(0): Using HorizSync/VertRefresh ranges from the EDID for display
[    32.596] (**) NVIDIA(0):     device BenQ GL2450 (DFP-0) (Using EDID frequencies has
[    32.596] (**) NVIDIA(0):     been enabled on all display devices.)
[    32.603] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Display (BenQ G2420HDBL (DFP-3)) does not support NVIDIA 3D
[    32.603] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0):     Vision stereo.
[    32.603] (**) NVIDIA(0): Using HorizSync/VertRefresh ranges from the EDID for display
[    32.603] (**) NVIDIA(0):     device BenQ G2420HDBL (DFP-3) (Using EDID frequencies has
[    32.603] (**) NVIDIA(0):     been enabled on all display devices.)
[    33.616] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Display (BenQ GL2450 (DFP-0)) does not support NVIDIA 3D
[    33.616] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0):     Vision stereo.
[    33.616] (**) NVIDIA(0): Using HorizSync/VertRefresh ranges from the EDID for display
[    33.616] (**) NVIDIA(0):     device BenQ GL2450 (DFP-0) (Using EDID frequencies has
[    33.616] (**) NVIDIA(0):     been enabled on all display devices.)
[    33.622] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Display (BenQ G2420HDBL (DFP-3)) does not support NVIDIA 3D
[    33.622] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0):     Vision stereo.
[    33.622] (**) NVIDIA(0): Using HorizSync/VertRefresh ranges from the EDID for display
[    33.622] (**) NVIDIA(0):     device BenQ G2420HDBL (DFP-3) (Using EDID frequencies has
[    33.622] (**) NVIDIA(0):     been enabled on all display devices.)

From what I understand it only shows a few errors for the mouse/keyboard, and that's because I changed the driver yesterday.

Rydberg95

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From: Stockholm, Sweden

Registered: 2013-01-25

Posts: 51

Re: Strange Lagging in GNOME and KDE

I don't know if this has anything to do with this, but when I'm running geany and I'm trying to change window focus, this error displays:

(geany:2653): Gdk-CRITICAL **: IA__gdk_window_get_events: assertion `GDK_IS_WINDOW (window)' failed

(geany:2653): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(geany:2653): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

EDIT: After some googling about this problem, it's described as the problem I'm experiencing. What's sad is that I didn't find any solution to it...

Last edited by Rydberg95 (2013-07-23 08:35:58)

Rydberg95

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From: Stockholm, Sweden

Registered: 2013-01-25

Posts: 51

Re: Strange Lagging in GNOME and KDE

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=131858
This guy is having (had) the same problem, and that was a while ago

Rydberg95

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From: Stockholm, Sweden

Registered: 2013-01-25

Posts: 51

Re: Strange Lagging in GNOME and KDE

Hmm, installing the 'gtk' and the 'glib' package seems to have solved the problem temporarily, but after a reboot it's back

Last edited by Rydberg95 (2013-07-23 09:52:20)

Rydberg95

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From: Stockholm, Sweden

Registered: 2013-01-25

Posts: 51

Re: Strange Lagging in GNOME and KDE

No one? I even tried running Ubuntu in the live environment... Seems like my hardware isn't supported, even if I use some of the most used parts in the world

Last edited by Rydberg95 (2013-07-23 19:48:44)

WonderWoofy

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From: Los Gatos, CA

Registered: 2012-05-19

Posts: 8,414

Re: Strange Lagging in GNOME and KDE

Is you machine swapping?

Rydberg95

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From: Stockholm, Sweden

Registered: 2013-01-25

Posts: 51

Re: Strange Lagging in GNOME and KDE

Is you machine swapping?

What is that?

ewaller

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Re: Strange Lagging in GNOME and KDE

Is you machine swapping?

What is that?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paging#Terminology

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Rydberg95

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From: Stockholm, Sweden

Registered: 2013-01-25

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Re: Strange Lagging in GNOME and KDE

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paging#Terminology

Thank you. I'm not "machine swapping" as far as I know.

WonderWoofy

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From: Los Gatos, CA

Registered: 2012-05-19

Posts: 8,414

Re: Strange Lagging in GNOME and KDE

Well, swapping would be a pretty reasonable explanation as to why you system would be doing this.  So it might be good to see if you can figure it out.  Do you have swap space?

Rydberg95

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From: Stockholm, Sweden

Registered: 2013-01-25

Posts: 51

Re: Strange Lagging in GNOME and KDE

No, I don't. I assume that's if you have a part of your disc that is with the swap file system, and I didn't ever make one of those. I'm sorry to making this harder that it would if I would be better at Linux.

ludwis

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Registered: 2011-01-17

Posts: 29

Re: Strange Lagging in GNOME and KDE

I had similar problem once. It dissapeard when I switched to nouveau driver. But in my case the whole desktop was frozen, and the only thing working was the mouse coursor. I didn't have enough spare time to investigate back then so I have no idea what caused the problem. In your case it seems like a problem with hard drive access. Do you use any power saving features? Maybe your hdd is just spinning down a lot and the lag is a result of the system waiting for it to spin up?

I think it would be a good idea to monitor your logs at the time, for example using watch comand:

watch -n 1 "sudo tail /var/log/dmesg.log"

Also try different log files if this doesn't result in anything conclusive.

king.flasher.dave

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From: Berlin

Registered: 2008-11-25

Posts: 140

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Re: Strange Lagging in GNOME and KDE

I experience a similiar issue with my laptop. I'm running the nvidia driver:

02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G98M [GeForce 9200M GS] (rev a1)
03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation C79 [GeForce 9400M G] (rev b1)

As soon as I'm using an external monitor over HDMI this problem keeps popping up in Xorg.0.log A LOT:

[    28.076] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Display (LGD (DFP-0)) does not support NVIDIA 3D Vision
[    28.076] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0):     stereo.
[    28.076] (**) NVIDIA(0): Using HorizSync/VertRefresh ranges from the EDID for display
[    28.076] (**) NVIDIA(0):     device LGD (DFP-0) (Using EDID frequencies has been
[    28.076] (**) NVIDIA(0):     enabled on all display devices.)
[    28.148] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Display (DELL2407WFPHC (DFP-1)) does not support NVIDIA 3D
[    28.148] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0):     Vision stereo.
[    28.148] (**) NVIDIA(0): Using HorizSync/VertRefresh ranges from the EDID for display
[    28.148] (**) NVIDIA(0):     device DELL2407WFPHC (DFP-1) (Using EDID frequencies has
[    28.148] (**) NVIDIA(0):     been enabled on all display devices.)

While this happens, EVERYTHING in Gnome becomes choppy and slow (watching a video, using Firefox for browsing, etc.), Xorg uses up between 50 and 100% of CPU (because obviously it gets flooded with these stupid driver messages every couple of milliseconds).
Also sometimes mouse and/or keyboard starts to freeze in X to the point where I sometimes have to restart gdm in whole.
A very unpleasant side effect of this is also my laptop heating up A LOT.

That's why I'm definitely suspecting the Nvidia driver to cause this in combination with Xorg.

Anyone come across similiar?

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king.flasher.dave

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Re: Strange Lagging in GNOME and KDE

Okay... I'm on nouveau right now, and the problem persists. As much as I wanted to suspect Nvidia to be the cause of this, it is much more likely that Xorg is broken in a wicked way since version 1.14
Will try downgrading half the system and see what versions work out for me.
Reporting back in a while

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chx

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Registered: 2011-05-28

Posts: 101

Re: Strange Lagging in GNOME and KDE

I am on KDE and when docking or pressing the file upload button in Chrome the corresponding system dialog takes forever to come up.  Nothing in X log, nothing in dmesg and nothing in journalctl. I have several gigs of free RAM and zero swap set up. It's not swapping.

restarting plasma-desktop gives me these:

static bool QDeclarativeMetaType::isModule(const QByteArray&, int, int) Qt 4.7 import detected; please note that Qt 4.7 is directly reusable as QtQuick 1.x with no code changes. Continuing, but startup time will be slower. 
Object::connect: No such signal QDBusAbstractInterface::DeviceAdded(QString)
Object::connect: No such signal QDBusAbstractInterface::DeviceRemoved(QString)
virtual QStringList Solid::Backends::UPower::UPowerManager::allDevices()  error:  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" 
virtual QStringList Solid::Backends::UPower::UPowerManager::allDevices()  error:  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" 
"/org/freedesktop/UDisks2/drives/M4_CT256M4SSD3_000000001233034841A1" : property "Drive" does not exist 
"/org/freedesktop/UDisks2/drives/SAMSUNG_SSD_PB22_JS3_TM_128GB_DCF2R00943SE943A9111" : property "Drive" does not exist 
"/org/freedesktop/UDisks2/drives/M4_CT256M4SSD3_000000001233034841A1" : property "DeviceNumber" does not exist 
"/org/freedesktop/UDisks2/drives/M4_CT256M4SSD3_000000001233034841A1" : property "Device" does not exist 
file:///usr/lib/kde4/imports/org/kde/plasma/components/SectionScroller.qml:103: TypeError: Result of expression 'listView' [null] is not an object.
file:///usr/lib/kde4/imports/org/kde/plasma/components/SectionScroller.qml:175: ReferenceError: Can't find variable: sectionsRepeater
file:///usr/lib/kde4/imports/org/kde/plasma/components/SectionScroller.qml:103: Error: Cannot assign [undefined] to QString
file:///usr/lib/kde4/imports/org/kde/plasma/extras/ScrollArea.qml:120: TypeError: Result of expression 'horizontalScrollBar' [null] is not an object.
file:///usr/lib/kde4/imports/org/kde/plasma/extras/ScrollArea.qml:120: TypeError: Result of expression 'horizontalScrollBar' [null] is not an object.
file:///usr/share/apps/plasma/plasmoids/notifier/contents/ui/devicenotifier.qml:224:13: QML QDeclarativeListView_QML_97: Possible anchor loop detected on fill.
file:///usr/share/apps/plasma/plasmoids/notifier/contents/ui/devicenotifier.qml:224:13: QML QDeclarativeListView_QML_97: Possible anchor loop detected on fill.
file:///usr/share/apps/plasma/plasmoids/notifier/contents/ui/devicenotifier.qml:224:13: QML QDeclarativeListView_QML_97: Possible anchor loop detected on fill.
file:///usr/share/apps/plasma/plasmoids/notifier/contents/ui/devicenotifier.qml:224:13: QML QDeclarativeListView_QML_97: Possible anchor loop detected on fill.
file:///usr/share/apps/plasma/plasmoids/notifier/contents/ui/devicenotifier.qml:224:13: QML QDeclarativeListView_QML_97: Possible anchor loop detected on fill.
file:///usr/share/apps/plasma/plasmoids/notifier/contents/ui/devicenotifier.qml:224:13: QML QDeclarativeListView_QML_97: Possible anchor loop detected on fill.
file:///usr/share/apps/plasma/plasmoids/notifier/contents/ui/devicenotifier.qml:224:13: QML QDeclarativeListView_QML_97: Possible anchor loop detected on fill.
plasma-desktop(27086)/plasma StatusNotifierItemSource::refreshCallback: DBusMenu disabled for this application 

Chrome says:

[25645:25645:0801/033343:ERROR:object_proxy.cc(529)] Failed to call method: org.chromium.Mtpd.EnumerateStorages: object_path= /org/chromium/Mtpd: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.chromium.Mtpd was not provided by any .service files

As I recently removed initscripts I am nearly 100% that dbus is not working / starting right somehow now. My battery monitor is broken, too.

Last edited by chx (2013-08-01 11:02:44)

foppe

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Registered: 2011-04-02

Posts: 47

Re: Strange Lagging in GNOME and KDE

I'm experiencing similar issues in Gnome. It boils down to this:
When I focus on Evince or Sublime Text 3 I see a spike in CPU. When I unfocus or even drag a window before named programs CPU settles down on a low level. Evence would sometimes not allow me to focus / scroll.
In the logs I found this:

aug 01 20:29:49 arch gnome-session[676]: Waarschuwing van vensterbeheer:last_focus_time (47434116) is greater than comparison timestamp (47434080).  This most likely represents a buggy client sending inaccurate timestamps in messages such as _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW.  Trying to work around...

and several other repeated errors.
As usual the process is gnome-session so that's impossible to debug. I do think it came with the  update to 3.10 kernel or Gnome 3.8.3 or some GTK thing.

chx

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Registered: 2011-05-28

Posts: 101

Re: Strange Lagging in GNOME and KDE

We know that at least one of the causes for this is caused by a libusbx deadlock. A fixed package has been released, it's in testing.

king.flasher.dave

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From: Berlin

Registered: 2008-11-25

Posts: 140

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Re: Strange Lagging in GNOME and KDE

I'm not sure I'm experiencing the same as you guys, so I made another topic for my issue. Comments welcome! https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=168157
P.S.: Downgrading worked for me (for now).

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