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Neuro

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X.org 6.9/7.0 future

As X.org 6.9/7.0 was released today, I'd like to ask a question how it'll be organised in Arch.

I mean, as far as I seen in the testing repo, xorg now has well over 40 packages (I didn't count).

Will things stay like that? Or will you introduce some sort of gatherer packages (like a package for all driver packages issued by Xorg)

I haven't installed them yet (are they somewhat stable)?

stavrosg

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Re: X.org 6.9/7.0 future

the xorg package in testing is a dummy package that depends on everything

Neuro

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Re: X.org 6.9/7.0 future

the xorg package in testing is a dummy package that depends on everything

Yea.. I can see But I'd like to know how thing'll be organised?

I mean will there be one package for each xorg release file? I mean for example: will there be a package for each display driver individually or will there be just a generic xorg-drivers package?

This is what interests me. I don't know if taking this modularisation (and thus fragmentation of packets) to such extent is a good thing. However, being able to remove unnecessary Xorg drivers (since I own a Nvidia card, I dont need neither ATI nor Intel ones) is a good thing

I remember reading about the Xorg plans in some newsletter or news annoucment on the Arch site. But that provided rather scarse information. So any dev could shed some light on this?

mattux

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Re: X.org 6.9/7.0 future

i think its best way to hold the packages as there are now....
if you are an arch-user you are competent linux users  http://www.archlinux.org/about.php ...a competent linux users should know what is every package for...so its great for you

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shadowhand

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Re: X.org 6.9/7.0 future

Any idea when 7.0 will hit current?

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Neuro

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Re: X.org 6.9/7.0 future

i think its best way to hold the packages as there are now....
if you are an arch-user you are competent linux users  http://www.archlinux.org/about.php ...a competent linux users should know what is every package for...so its great for you

True, but I doubt having to deal with ~50 packeges insted of 5 would go along the lines of KISS

mattux

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Re: X.org 6.9/7.0 future

but if YOU can choose with driver / font / programm should be  installed  + an pseudo package (xorg)  it would be simple + stupid + geek friendly

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codergeek42

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Re: X.org 6.9/7.0 future

Well it seems to be that Arch will have to move to modular X.org some time in the near future. X.org 6.9 was the last monolithic build. Everything from 7.0 and onward will be distributed from upstream as separate packages.

The only thing that comes to mind is doing something like Gentoo's meta-ebuild, wherein the xorg-x11-7.0.0 ebuild is merely a placeholder that pulls in the basic X.org packages as dependencies.

Fedora Rawhide already is using modular X.org, for what it's worth...

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Re: X.org 6.9/7.0 future

I'ld prefer a solution that makes use of a group. Like "pacman -S gnome" installs a large bunch of gnome packages, "pacman -S xorg" could install the whole set of xorg pieces, while you still can install each of them seperately. Any other way would not make any sense.

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Neuro

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Re: X.org 6.9/7.0 future

I've been thinking about moving to Xorg 7.0 from testing, but I wouldn't like my setup to break heavily (like a need to play around for more than 2 hours, I don't have time for that).

I see that paths change (to /usr instead of /usrX11R6). Do I just need to alter my xorg.conf's paths (it's quite custom, my own layout, my own comments and such) or are there some more switches to put/remove/change?

What about the compatibility? Does it break pacakges older packages form current? Anyoen already made the move?

stavrosg

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Re: X.org 6.9/7.0 future

Check the (already lengthy) discussion in this thread