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#1 2012-11-14 10:58:30

edmael
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Pantheon Shell on Archlinux

Hello everyone,
I was wondering if anyone tried to build Pantheon Shell (eOS Destkop Environment) under Archlinux.
If not, why? Will I ever be able to use it?

Compiling is not really my thing, but if I can find some instruction I'll be glad to test it.

Thanks!

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#2 2012-11-14 12:58:39

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Re: Pantheon Shell on Archlinux

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/?O=0&K=Pantheon

no idea what else it uses, isnt it just all a skin?


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#3 2012-11-14 13:57:19

Larsson
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Re: Pantheon Shell on Archlinux

I've tried to build all the apps needed for phanteon, but have so far not succeded.  Perhaps when I have the time again I will build a repository so you can download all the packages.


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#4 2012-11-14 14:17:13

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Re: Pantheon Shell on Archlinux

Stable eOS apps are built against older Ubuntu repositories, while development branches are built against the latest Ubuntu repositories (one of several criticisms I have of the project, but those are irrelevant here).  That means that its applications always have a hard time building on Arch, which always uses the latest versions of available software..

edmael wrote:

Compiling is not really my thing, but if I can find some instruction I'll be glad to test it.

Not sure how you expect to get another operating system's software to run on this one if you don't compile it yourself, and no one is going to hold your hand for you.  You've been here long enough that you ought to know that.

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#5 2012-11-14 15:25:29

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Re: Pantheon Shell on Archlinux

Here are some guidelines on packaging elementary apps (including all of pantheon) into other distros: http://elementaryos.org/docs/packaging

I might start those packages when I get more time on my hands the few next weeks, or else I'll just wait for Luna release to make stable packages.

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#6 2012-11-22 18:41:26

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Re: Pantheon Shell on Archlinux

rmujica wrote:

I might start those packages when I get more time on my hands the few next weeks, or else I'll just wait for Luna release to make stable packages.

I could help you if you want smile

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#7 2012-11-29 20:30:16

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Re: Pantheon Shell on Archlinux

Any news on this? I get an assesrtion runing pantheon-session  sad

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#8 2012-12-01 15:30:41

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Re: Pantheon Shell on Archlinux

hirs wrote:

Any news on this? I get an assesrtion runing pantheon-session  sad

i'm waiting for the stable release smile

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#9 2013-01-02 15:05:02

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Re: Pantheon Shell on Archlinux

The Pantheon shell is made up of several non-dependent components, unlike GNOME shell and Unity. How would I go about starting the Pantheon shell from GDM (i.e. getting it as an option in the dropdown list)? Or is it perhaps meant to be run below, let's say GNOME?

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#10 2013-01-02 16:56:48

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Re: Pantheon Shell on Archlinux

I've tried installing a few apps and the session from current AUR packages. It does show up as a "Pantheon session" which you can select and boot into from the GDM.

But there are lots of ugly dependencies, and I don't think the packages on AUR are complete or even up-to-date. What you end up with is a half-baked desktop that doesn't work like eOS (some packages are missing, and some of the installable ones just don't work like they should), or even look like eOS (since eGTK doesn't work with GTK 3.6, and there are some font rendering differences).

Besides, elementary OS is still under development and the "Pantheon shell" or those "elementary apps" haven't reached a stable release yet, so I think it should be a good while before someone's willing to patch and maintain all the packages like some really nice people here do for Unity.

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#11 2013-08-13 13:22:12

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Re: Pantheon Shell on Archlinux

With the final release of EOS Luna, do you guys think Pantheon can be successfully packaged on Arch?

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#12 2013-08-13 13:27:56

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Re: Pantheon Shell on Archlinux

orschiro wrote:

With the final release of EOS Luna, do you guys think Pantheon can be successfully packaged on Arch?

Only one way to find out big_smile

All the best,

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#13 2013-08-13 13:31:28

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Re: Pantheon Shell on Archlinux

Watching this...

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#14 2013-08-14 13:37:29

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Re: Pantheon Shell on Archlinux

I talked to TU alucryd who is responsible for most of the Pantheon related packages in the AUR and he agreed on trying to provide a complete port of Pantheon on Arch.

Thus I created a wiki page which we all can use to track the progress: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pantheon

As for the first thing to do, I suggest to agree on a proper naming convention of the packages. I listed all required packages in the wiki page.

Last edited by orschiro (2013-08-14 13:38:12)

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#15 2013-08-17 11:06:17

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Re: Pantheon Shell on Archlinux

I can start Wingpanel if I downgrading Vala. I have some problems to theme Wingpanel. .panel don´t seem to do anything.

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#16 2013-08-17 14:49:45

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Re: Pantheon Shell on Archlinux

Thank you for the information. Which version of Vala did you downgrade to?

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#17 2013-08-17 17:45:06

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Re: Pantheon Shell on Archlinux

orschiro wrote:

Thank you for the information. Which version of Vala did you downgrade to?

0.16, I think (I´m not on that computer at the moment).

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#18 2013-08-19 02:06:12

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Re: Pantheon Shell on Archlinux

0.16.1 did not work when I filed the bug upstream but now it works for me too, thx for the tip kaptenen, I've updated the AUR package. Wingpanel launches along with slingshot-launcher and indicator-pantheon-session if installed (you need at least one indicator for wingpanel to start).
I tried building switchboard and some of its plugs against vala 0.16 which fixed some issues, the pantheon-shell plug now works (background tab does not show my pictures though). Maybe the sensible thing would be to build all pantheon packages against vala0.16 instead of our repo version. I own vala0.16 in the AUR, made it some time agp so you can have it alongside vala from the repos. I'll try to update pantheon packages asap and will update the wiki page. Pantheon on Arch Linux may not be that far away tongue


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#19 2013-08-19 09:17:20

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Re: Pantheon Shell on Archlinux

it's only for me or the pantheon-session-bzr from aur don't work? only black screen with the mouse cursor...
that's not a wingpanel related thing since the panel work, also plank,slingshot and gala work (with --replace), maybe a gala problem? (using a modified gnome-flashback session with mutter and metacity works, but with gala don't work...)

ps: for me the indicator works fine, tried indicator-datetime, indicator sound, indicator-session, indicator-messages (the latter has a little problem with the icon being not displayed in the panel, but works..

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#20 2013-08-19 13:05:46

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Re: Pantheon Shell on Archlinux

I'm currently launching a pantheon session using slim and ~/.xinitrc, with sth along those lines:

exec dbus-launch gala &
cerbere &

Though I'm having some issues with gala atm, maybe that's related, it often (as in almost always) crashes X at start (that's in a VM, still haven't tried for real tongue). I'll finish updating the AUR packages with vala0.16 then I'll have a look at pantheon-session.

Last edited by Alucryd (2013-08-19 13:06:27)


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#21 2013-08-19 15:26:52

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Re: Pantheon Shell on Archlinux

tried the slim way, it works, more or less (the session don't work well, the indicator-session logout don't work), after some test the problems seem to be related to the update to gnome 3.8 and the dropping of gnome-classic, so gnome-session-daemon and gnome-settings-daemon seem to be the culprit (and maybe gala too)

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#22 2013-08-20 01:30:30

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Re: Pantheon Shell on Archlinux

This bug has a Noise branch linked that uses GTK+ 3.8 for the album view.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/noise/+bug/1214192

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#23 2013-08-20 19:14:42

kaptenen
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Re: Pantheon Shell on Archlinux

Alucryd wrote:

I'm currently launching a pantheon session using slim and ~/.xinitrc, with sth along those lines:

exec dbus-launch gala &
cerbere &

Though I'm having some issues with gala atm, maybe that's related, it often (as in almost always) crashes X at start (that's in a VM, still haven't tried for real tongue). I'll finish updating the AUR packages with vala0.16 then I'll have a look at pantheon-session.

I will give this a try later, thanks for the tip!
I have spend some time to make a gtk 3.8 version of the elementary theme (it´s buggy =/) you can all find it on deviantart, my username is crustpanda. smile right now it works best with xfce, because I can´t theme wingpanel.

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#24 2013-08-21 11:11:04

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Re: Pantheon Shell on Archlinux

kaptenen wrote:

I will give this a try later, thanks for the tip!
I have spend some time to make a gtk 3.8 version of the elementary theme (it´s buggy =/) you can all find it on deviantart, my username is crustpanda. smile right now it works best with xfce, because I can´t theme wingpanel.

wingpanel seems to follow the gtk theme, I don't know if it's themable right now.

I finally have a working Pantheon session on my laptop running using .xinitrc. I have updated the wiki page with instructions, please head over there and try them out^^ https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pantheon


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#25 2013-08-21 12:56:55

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Re: Pantheon Shell on Archlinux

Alucryd wrote:
kaptenen wrote:

I will give this a try later, thanks for the tip!
I have spend some time to make a gtk 3.8 version of the elementary theme (it´s buggy =/) you can all find it on deviantart, my username is crustpanda. smile right now it works best with xfce, because I can´t theme wingpanel.

wingpanel seems to follow the gtk theme, I don't know if it's themable right now.

I finally have a working Pantheon session on my laptop running using .xinitrc. I have updated the wiki page with instructions, please head over there and try them out^^ https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pantheon

It looks like i can´t click on anything. =/

Another problem, is the time wrong for any one else?

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