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#1 2013-08-19 19:06:45

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[SOLVED] Weird at KDE behaviour after upgrade to 4.11

4.11 finally hit the [extra] and the update went with out a hitch but now when I log in to my KDE desktop the splash loads and fades to black now for some reason and I'm left with a black screen and cursor. This lasts for a few seconds and then the desktop appears. Anyone else getting that?

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#2 2013-08-19 19:46:02

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Re: [SOLVED] Weird at KDE behaviour after upgrade to 4.11

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#3 2013-08-19 20:22:15

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Re: [SOLVED] Weird at KDE behaviour after upgrade to 4.11

I've this issue too. In that post they say to use this revert:

https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/112073/

Did you try it? Does it solve the issue?


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#4 2013-08-19 21:14:26

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Re: [SOLVED] Weird at KDE behaviour after upgrade to 4.11

Fregtux wrote:

I've this issue too. In that post they say to use this revert:

https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/112073/

Did you try it? Does it solve the issue?

I'm not quite sure I understand the fix mentioned in the above link?

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#5 2013-08-20 01:18:16

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Re: [SOLVED] Weird at KDE behaviour after upgrade to 4.11

I have a worse problem: after updating to KDE 4.11, my Plasma crashes every time at boot. I tried to downgrade to kdebase-plasma 4.10.5, but the issue persisted. I need to execute plasma-desktop in Konsole manually after it crashes to start Plasma again, and then it works normally, but I need to do that every time at boot.

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#6 2013-08-20 01:22:59

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Re: [SOLVED] Weird at KDE behaviour after upgrade to 4.11

Manuel de la Fuente wrote:

I have a worse problem: after updating to KDE 4.11, my Plasma crashes every time at boot. I tried to downgrade to kdebase-plasma 4.10.5, but the issue persisted. I need to execute plasma-desktop in Konsole manually after it crashes to start Plasma again, and then it works normally, but I need to do that every time at boot.

Try renaming ~/.kde4 to ~/.kde4.bkup and see if that solves the issue. If so, you can either recustomise things or gradually add things back until you find the problem.


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#7 2013-08-20 01:28:32

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Re: [SOLVED] Weird at KDE behaviour after upgrade to 4.11

fettouhi wrote:

4.11 finally hit the [extra] and the update went with out a hitch but now when I log in to my KDE desktop the splash loads and fades to black now for some reason and I'm left with a black screen and cursor. This lasts for a few seconds and then the desktop appears. Anyone else getting that?

I didn't realise this was a bug. I've never seen this on Arch but it is normal for me on Fedora. Somebody else mentioned KDE wallet which I use on Fedora and not Arch. I wonder if that's related?


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#8 2013-08-20 01:30:43

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Re: [SOLVED] Weird at KDE behaviour after upgrade to 4.11

cfr wrote:

Try renaming ~/.kde4 to ~/.kde4.bkup and see if that solves the issue. If so, you can either recustomise things or gradually add things back until you find the problem.

I did that but the problem only got worse, KDE didn't start at all and sent me back to KDM.

Last edited by Manuel de la Fuente (2013-08-20 01:31:10)

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#9 2013-08-20 01:44:09

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Re: [SOLVED] Weird at KDE behaviour after upgrade to 4.11

Manuel de la Fuente wrote:

I have a worse problem: after updating to KDE 4.11, my Plasma crashes every time at boot.

same problem, I create a post here :

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1314391

Last edited by Potomac (2013-08-20 04:31:22)

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#10 2013-08-20 01:55:13

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Re: [SOLVED] Weird at KDE behaviour after upgrade to 4.11

When I upgraded to 4.11 I preemptively deleted all kde config folders and then restarted my system. I don't have any particular problem on my system. It's working fine.

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#11 2013-08-20 02:01:04

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Re: [SOLVED] Weird at KDE behaviour after upgrade to 4.11

is it the i686 version of archlinux you have ?

can you tell me which config folders you have deleted ?

".kde" and ".kde4" ?

I deleted ".kde4" but it doesn't help

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#12 2013-08-20 02:01:19

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Re: [SOLVED] Weird at KDE behaviour after upgrade to 4.11

Manuel de la Fuente wrote:

I have a worse problem: after updating to KDE 4.11, my Plasma crashes every time at boot. I tried to downgrade to kdebase-plasma 4.10.5, but the issue persisted. I need to execute plasma-desktop in Konsole manually after it crashes to start Plasma again, and then it works normally, but I need to do that every time at boot.

I had the same problem, so I found a workaround (gentoo forums).

Edit /usr/share/autostart/plasma-desktop.desktop and change:

Exec=plasma-desktop
for
Exec=sleep .1 && plasma-desktop

plasma-desktop will wait 0.1 seconds and then it'll start.


Regards.

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#13 2013-08-20 02:11:08

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Re: [SOLVED] Weird at KDE behaviour after upgrade to 4.11

McKlain wrote:
Manuel de la Fuente wrote:

I have a worse problem: after updating to KDE 4.11, my Plasma crashes every time at boot. I tried to downgrade to kdebase-plasma 4.10.5, but the issue persisted. I need to execute plasma-desktop in Konsole manually after it crashes to start Plasma again, and then it works normally, but I need to do that every time at boot.

I had the same problem, so I found a workaround (gentoo forums).

Edit /usr/share/autostart/plasma-desktop.desktop and change:

Exec=plasma-desktop
for
Exec=sleep .1 && plasma-desktop

plasma-desktop will wait 0.1 seconds and then it'll start.


Regards.

it doesn't work for me,

the segfault is gone but I get a wallpaper ( the default wallpaper in KDE splash screen ) and nothing else,

I think you have forgotten some steps in your workaround,

do I have to delete ".kde4" folder ?

Last edited by Potomac (2013-08-20 02:13:48)

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#14 2013-08-20 02:24:53

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Re: [SOLVED] Weird at KDE behaviour after upgrade to 4.11

Potomac wrote:
McKlain wrote:
Manuel de la Fuente wrote:

I have a worse problem: after updating to KDE 4.11, my Plasma crashes every time at boot. I tried to downgrade to kdebase-plasma 4.10.5, but the issue persisted. I need to execute plasma-desktop in Konsole manually after it crashes to start Plasma again, and then it works normally, but I need to do that every time at boot.

I had the same problem, so I found a workaround (gentoo forums).

Edit /usr/share/autostart/plasma-desktop.desktop and change:

Exec=plasma-desktop
for
Exec=sleep .1 && plasma-desktop

plasma-desktop will wait 0.1 seconds and then it'll start.


Regards.

it doesn't work for me,

the segfault is gone but I get a wallpaper ( the default wallpaper in KDE splash screen ) and nothing else,

I think you have forgotten some steps in your workaround,

do I have to delete ".kde4" folder ?

I tried that too and didn't work for me. But you lose nothing by trying.

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#15 2013-08-20 02:56:17

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Re: [SOLVED] Weird at KDE behaviour after upgrade to 4.11

I tried and it didn't work

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#16 2013-08-20 03:03:52

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Re: [SOLVED] Weird at KDE behaviour after upgrade to 4.11

in fact, McKlain your workaround is almost good, except this line :

Exec=plasma-desktop
for
Exec=sleep .1 && plasma-desktop

it works only if I type this :

Exec=sleep 10 && plasma-desktop

in /usr/share/autostart/plasma-desktop.desktop

now the problem is gone, this workaround sould work for other people who have this bug

Last edited by Potomac (2013-08-20 03:07:40)

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#17 2013-08-20 03:08:53

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Re: [SOLVED] Weird at KDE behaviour after upgrade to 4.11

Please don't post bug links which automatically get people to vote!

Note: This is very easy to do and I have done it inadvertently in the past. But please edit the link.


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#18 2013-08-20 03:55:29

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Re: [SOLVED] Weird at KDE behaviour after upgrade to 4.11

@potomac I deleted all kde, akonadi, gtk theme files from $HOME,.cache and .config. I logged into tty so that kde wouldn't recreate the folders instantly. It looks like your system is hit by some bug and this might not be of much use.

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#19 2013-08-20 04:26:07

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Re: [SOLVED] Weird at KDE behaviour after upgrade to 4.11

donniezazen wrote:

@potomac I deleted all kde, akonadi, gtk theme files from $HOME,.cache and .config. I logged into tty so that kde wouldn't recreate the folders instantly. It looks like your system is hit by some bug and this might not be of much use.

do you have a i686 version of archlinux ?

because this bug seems to occur only on i686 version of archlinux,

the workaround was found on a gentoo forum :

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-967222.html

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-967554.html

Last edited by Potomac (2013-08-20 04:28:15)

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#20 2013-08-20 04:33:03

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Re: [SOLVED] Weird at KDE behaviour after upgrade to 4.11

I have a x64 system.

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#21 2013-08-20 04:36:43

Manuel de la Fuente
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Re: [SOLVED] Weird at KDE behaviour after upgrade to 4.11

Potomac wrote:

in fact, McKlain your workaround is almost good, except this line :

Exec=plasma-desktop
for
Exec=sleep .1 && plasma-desktop

it works only if I type this :

Exec=sleep 10 && plasma-desktop

in /usr/share/autostart/plasma-desktop.desktop

now the problem is gone, this workaround sould work for other people who have this bug

This worked perfectly for me too, thank you so much. smile

BTW, I also use Arch i686.

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#22 2013-08-20 07:05:34

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Re: [SOLVED] Weird at KDE behaviour after upgrade to 4.11

Thanks! That 10-second pause fixed the crash on an i686 (32-bit) here.

This box also akonadi-fake in place of extra/akonadi. (Install akonadi-fake from AUR, then pacman -R akonadi to finish the change.) Even so, KDE crashed until the delay was installed.

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#23 2013-08-20 08:33:22

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Re: [SOLVED] Weird at KDE behaviour after upgrade to 4.11

fettouhi wrote:
Fregtux wrote:

I've this issue too. In that post they say to use this revert:

https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/112073/

Did you try it? Does it solve the issue?

I'm not quite sure I understand the fix mentioned in the above link?

You have to do this:

https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/11207 … dex_header

that is change in plasma-desktop.desktop from:

X-DBUS-StartupType=unique

to     

X-DBUS-StartupType=multi

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#24 2013-08-20 13:27:55

Potomac
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Re: [SOLVED] Weird at KDE behaviour after upgrade to 4.11

Fregtux wrote:
fettouhi wrote:
Fregtux wrote:

I've this issue too. In that post they say to use this revert:

https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/112073/

Did you try it? Does it solve the issue?

I'm not quite sure I understand the fix mentioned in the above link?

You have to do this:

https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/11207 … dex_header

that is change in plasma-desktop.desktop from:

X-DBUS-StartupType=unique

to     

X-DBUS-StartupType=multi

this fix doesn't work with my PC,

the only fix who works on 32 bits installation is to replace this line in /usr/share/autostart/plasma-desktop.desktop :

Exec=plasma-desktop

by

Exec=sleep 10 && plasma-desktop

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#25 2013-08-20 13:37:50

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Re: [SOLVED] Weird at KDE behaviour after upgrade to 4.11

Thanks Potomac, your workaround worked for me too. i686

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