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#1 2013-09-11 06:51:12

Nemesis
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[SOLVED] Blackscreen when starting X

Hey fellow Linux users,

after 10 months of using Manjaro I wanted to do a manual Arch install again (have been using Arch before - different hardware though).
But once i start X via startx the screen goes black and I am unable to kill X.

I am using the xf86-video-ati driver with a HD 7870 XT card.

I don't have a .xinitrc nor an xorg.conf file.
Here is my log: http://bpaste.net/show/131347/

I did add '10-radeon.conf' upon a suggestion i found in a random forum

Section "Device"
    Identifier "ATI Radeon HD 7870 XT"
    Driver "radeon"
EndSection

I hope you guys can help me, as the wiki did not.

Greetings from Germany smile
Nemesis

Last edited by Nemesis (2013-09-13 07:33:02)

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#2 2013-09-11 07:01:38

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Re: [SOLVED] Blackscreen when starting X

Not an Installation issue, moving to Multimedia.

Have a look at the ATI Bar & Grill thread for up-to-date information on that family of cards.

Welcome back.


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#3 2013-09-11 07:07:14

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Re: [SOLVED] Blackscreen when starting X

There aren't any errors (EE) in that log file.  X is running, what are you expecting to see? e.g. what window manager, programs have you installed and chosen to start?

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#4 2013-09-11 07:08:34

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Re: [SOLVED] Blackscreen when starting X

A wild gues would be that your driver is not supported there, try with the proprietary driver instead.
The above is more likely however.

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#5 2013-09-11 07:10:07

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Re: [SOLVED] Blackscreen when starting X

I installed xorg-twm, xorg-xclock and xterm for testing. Shouldn't the launch when executing startx without wm?

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#6 2013-09-11 07:17:15

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Re: [SOLVED] Blackscreen when starting X

Try starting X as root, other than that you could use a stable DE like XFCE or something else.

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#7 2013-09-11 07:25:20

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Re: [SOLVED] Blackscreen when starting X

r0b0t wrote:

Try starting X as root, other than that you could use a stable DE like XFCE or something else.

Why would you advise someone to run X as root? And installing a DE is not going to solve anything.


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#8 2013-09-11 07:25:32

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Re: [SOLVED] Blackscreen when starting X

Thanks for all your replies. Starting X as root did not work either.
I just installed XFCE and it did also just give me a black screen.
The proprietary driver did not work back on Manjaro either, so i doubt it will now.

For some reason I guess I am missing something cruxial here.

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#9 2013-09-11 08:09:59

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Re: [SOLVED] Blackscreen when starting X

jasonwryan wrote:

Why would you advise someone to run X as root? And installing a DE is not going to solve anything.

Because he asked about Xapplications and normally they autostart if you start X as root, about the DE it solved my issue as I had a similar problem where X didn't start with openbox so I switched to cinnamon which did work..

And after this test we are pretty sure that there is something wrong with the driver hmm , in this case I would try looking for the card if it's supported or not and with which drivers.

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#10 2013-09-11 08:14:25

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Re: [SOLVED] Blackscreen when starting X

Nemesis wrote:

Thanks for all your replies. Starting X as root did not work either.
I just installed XFCE and it did also just give me a black screen.
The proprietary driver did not work back on Manjaro either, so i doubt it will now.

For some reason I guess I am missing something cruxial here.

Did you try catalyst 13.4 ?

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#11 2013-09-11 08:15:17

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Re: [SOLVED] Blackscreen when starting X

First of all: Thanks everybody.

Luckily I was able to get X running with the proprietary ATI driver.
But fglrxinfo gives me an error "unable to open display (null)"

There is an error in the log now: http://bpaste.net/show/131355

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#12 2013-09-11 10:37:33

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Re: [SOLVED] Blackscreen when starting X

That's because of :

[    88.633] (WW) fglrx(0): ***********************************************************
[    88.633] (WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed                               *
[    88.633] (WW) fglrx(0): * kernel module (fglrx.ko) may be missing or incompatible *
[    88.633] (WW) fglrx(0): * 2D and 3D acceleration disabled                         *
[    88.633] (WW) fglrx(0): ***********************************************************

however you provided very little information, if your software is fully up to date and you are using the last Xorg , you should go for Catalyst beta for the fglrx compatibility however before that:

Install or generate (if are already installed) the fonts for

[    88.348] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/" does not exist.
[    88.348] 	Entry deleted from font path.
[    88.348] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/OTF/" does not exist.
[    88.348] 	Entry deleted from font path.
[    88.348] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/" does not exist.
[    88.348] 	Entry deleted from font path.
[    88.348] (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/".
[    88.348] 	Entry deleted from font path.
[    88.348] 	(Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/").
[    88.348] (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/".
[    88.348] 	Entry deleted from font path.

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#13 2013-09-11 13:26:38

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Re: [SOLVED] Blackscreen when starting X

Nemesis wrote:

First of all: Thanks everybody.

Luckily I was able to get X running with the proprietary ATI driver.
But fglrxinfo gives me an error "unable to open display (null)"

How did you install the proprietary drivers (which package did you install)?

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#14 2013-09-13 07:32:40

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Re: [SOLVED] Blackscreen when starting X

Sorry for the late reply. My ISP decided to cut my internet connection.
I used the stable driver from the AUR.

I finally got it working by using the catalyst-test package which uses the current beta
driver. Seems like my card is only supported with it at the moment.

Thanks for all your replies though smile

cheers Nemesis

P.S. Feels good to be back at Arch

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