Project ARM :: Arch Rollback Machine

kekules_dream · 2013-09-05 01:50:07

I have installed downgrade 4.2-1. But when I run

$ downgrade grml-zsh-config

and choose s for search I see only :

The following packages are available in your cache:

    1)  local              grml-zsh-config-0.9.0-1-any.pkg.tar.xz [installed]

please choose a version, [s]earch A.R.M or [q]uit: s

The following packages are available from the A.R.M.:

    1)  extra              grml-zsh-config-0.9.0-1-any.pkg.tar.xz [installed]

please choose a version or [q]uit:

Yet if I surf over to http://repo-arm-download.archlinuxcn.or … os/x86_64/

I see that both grml-zsh-config-0.8.2-1 and grml-zsh-config-0.9.0-1 are present. Why don't I get the opportunity to downgrade to 0.8.2-1? Thank you.

lilydjwg · 2013-09-05 04:15:58

kekules_dream wrote:

I have installed downgrade 4.2-1. But when I run
$ downgrade grml-zsh-config
and choose s for search I see only :
The following packages are available in your cache:

    1)  local              grml-zsh-config-0.9.0-1-any.pkg.tar.xz [installed]

please choose a version, [s]earch A.R.M or [q]uit: s

The following packages are available from the A.R.M.:

    1)  extra              grml-zsh-config-0.9.0-1-any.pkg.tar.xz [installed]

please choose a version or [q]uit: 
Yet if I surf over to http://repo-arm-download.archlinuxcn.or … os/x86_64/
I see that both grml-zsh-config-0.8.2-1 and grml-zsh-config-0.9.0-1 are present. Why don't I get the opportunity to downgrade to 0.8.2-1? Thank you.

Because there were bugs. It should be fixed now.

kekules_dream · 2013-09-05 09:34:55

Yes it is showing both versions now. After I set up I set up sudo for my user I was able to successfully downgrade the package. It seems like before we could use our root password. I'm pretty sure about that because I have never had set up sudo for my username before. Also, even though I answered yes to

Add grml-zsh-config to IgnorePkg in /etc/pacman.conf? [y/$n] y

/etc/pacman.conf was not modified. Thank you for reviving the ARM!

Edit: downgrade does work without sudo with -s option

Last edited by kekules_dream (2013-09-06 10:08:21)

seblu · 2013-09-05 14:37:20

I would update the wiki section of ARM with the URL belongs to seblu.net/a/arm/. No objection?

karol · 2013-09-05 14:43:24

seblu wrote:

I would update the wiki section of ARM with the URL belongs to seblu.net/a/arm/. No objection?

Sure, go ahead.

If we're going to have multiple ARM-like services (instead of one service with mirrors) it needs to be clearly stated in the wiki, explaining e.g. which ARM-helper (like 'downgrade') supports which service.

sphakka · 2013-09-09 14:06:35

Hi there, thanks to anyone setting up a new A.R.M. (or whatever it'll be called)!

I urgently (well, that's because I just realize now that the old ARM is dead ;-)) need some old snapshots (2012-10-13 or around that day). But I only see stuff from 2013 @ "http://seblu.net/a/arm/" and don't know how to set up my '/etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist' to use the service @ "http://repo-arm-download.archlinuxcn.org". Is there any mirror around with older snapshots?

In the meanwhile, I'll resort to some makepkg installations...

karol · 2013-09-09 14:11:01

Have you tried using http://repo-arm-download.archlinuxcn.or … /os//$arch as the mirror?
Instead of adding it to the mirrorlist, you can comment out the mirrorlist in pacman.conf and use just this one server:

[core]
Server = http://repo-arm-download.archlinuxcn.org/$repo/os/$arch
# Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

Last edited by karol (2013-09-09 14:11:46)

rocmel · 2013-09-10 01:57:13

sphakka wrote:

Is there any mirror around with older snapshots?

Here is one repository which currently has a very large collection of packages:
http://mirror.iprimus.com.au/archlinux/
I was able to retrieve almost all of the packages that I wanted for CTKarch linux 0.7.
CTKarch 0.7 was released in April of 2011.
If iprimus did not have a package, then I searched at the following repository:
http://mirror.ihug.co.nz/archlinux/
It has a smaller collection of older packages, some of which were released in 2009.
I retrieved a few package listings from these 2 repositories today.
The extra/i686 listing from iprimus was a 20.0 MB html file.
The community/i686 listing from iprimus was 11.8 MB.
The core/i686 listing from iprimus was 1.3 MB.
The package listings from ihug amounted to:
extra/i686 857.9 kB html file
community/i686 709.7 kB
core/i686 60.7 kB

jcsiv · 2013-09-10 17:13:55

Hello,
Now that the Arch Rollback Machine has closed down, a valuable resource for many Archers has been lost. I have been thinking about some sort of decentralised solution to replace Project ARM, that way, we can avoid lots of problems that Project ARM ran into. I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, but it seemed the most logical. I would be happy to contribute to this, and I'll try to fit it in around schoolwork. There are many advantages to a decentralised system, such as avoiding bandwidth limitations. The main concept is that the more people who use it, the more packages there will be and the faster it will get (if we decide on using a torrent system), therefore the better that it will be. I'm sure I'm not the first person to think of this, but I haven't found a dedicated post to this topic yet (correct me if I'm wrong and I have found a post on the Project ARM topic https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1315900 post by SidK). I haven't read the entire topic, and I know people are planning to recreate it, but how about a decentralised solution? What do you think, would you be willing to help create this (and make decisions on how it will work)? Even if these plans already exist, this topic could be used to talk about them.

Thanks,

Jamie

WonderWoofy · 2013-09-10 17:31:40

I think it would me more appropriate to discuss this in the existing ARM thread, as that is where all the previous discussion has occurred. Keeping things centralized is probably ideal.

There are already two new implementations of the ARM that you can access. One is the work of a single developer (or TU, I can't remember who exactly ATM), and the other is the collective work by the archlinuxcn folks. Check out the last couple pages of that thread to see some info.

karol · 2013-09-10 17:34:14

There were discussions about a decentralized package management:
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=9399
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=68058
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=90970
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=91201
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=115731
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=125426

jasonwryan · 2013-09-10 17:55:30

Merging with the ARM thread...

sphakka · 2013-09-12 08:35:50

karol wrote:

Have you tried using http://repo-arm-download.archlinuxcn.or … /os//$arch as the mirror?
Instead of adding it to the mirrorlist, you can comment out the mirrorlist in pacman.conf and use just this one server:
[core]
Server = http://repo-arm-download.archlinuxcn.org/$repo/os/$arch
# Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

I'd rather need something like (note the pivot date '2012/10/13'):

Server = http://repo-arm.archlinuxcn.org/2012/10/13/$repo/os/$arch

but it doesn't work:

# pacman -Syu
:: Synchronizing package databases...
error: failed retrieving file 'core.db' from repo-arm.archlinuxcn.org : The requested URL returned error: 404 Not Found

So, provided that a snapshot from 2012/10/13 is available, I wonder if there's an URL format to have the equivalent behavior -- I see at 'https://github.com/archlinuxcn/repo-arm … /README.md' that a (deprecated) get method is available, but can't see any snapshot related option :-( I hoped in something like '/search?...&date=<snapshot-date>'.

Indeed,I tried to use the repo-arm URL the normal way to sync the DB and now it's kind of messed-up, as it won't allow any transaction to go through:

# pacman -Syup
:: Synchronizing package databases...
...
:: Starting full system upgrade...
error: failed to prepare transaction (unexpected error)

Pretty annoying...

karol · 2013-09-12 12:17:33

I don't see snapshots either, maybe they're not implemented yet:

TODO Implement daily-repo functionality.

Seblu's ARM provides snapshots, but they're pretty recent only: http://seblu.net/a/arm/2013/08/31/

phoenixlzx · 2013-10-02 19:09:28

Hi guys,

I've noticed that mirror.iprimus.com.au/archlinux/ holds a bunch of old packages, however, we have only 300G on our A.R.M server. So we decided to download all packages in [core] for the basic needs. downgrade scripts should now return more package versions, including kernel26 packages which have been disappeared in official repo long time ago. ;-)

For snapshots functionality, I'm sorry but dont blame felixonmars, he's just tooooo busy to take care of this.

kaizoku · 2013-10-08 23:45:35

After much searching through google, found some very old mirrors, hope its useful. Grab it while its hot (old).

query used: inurl:arch OR inurl:archlinux lastsync

27-Jul-2012 00:20
http://cesium.di.uminho.pt/pub/archlinux/

11-Mar-2013 10:00
http://shadow.ind.ntou.edu.tw/archlinux/

28-Aug-2013 09:20
http://jaran.undip.ac.id/archlinux/

Last edited by kaizoku (2013-10-08 23:57:46)

pulp · 2013-10-11 15:11:48

kaizoku wrote:

After much searching through google, found some very old mirrors, hope its useful. Grab it while its hot (old).
query used: inurl:arch OR inurl:archlinux lastsync
27-Jul-2012 00:20
http://cesium.di.uminho.pt/pub/archlinux/
11-Mar-2013 10:00
http://shadow.ind.ntou.edu.tw/archlinux/
28-Aug-2013 09:20
http://jaran.undip.ac.id/archlinux/

Some more:

11-Jan-2011 19:50
http://mirror.ihug.co.nz/archlinux/

25-Jul-2010
http://tw.archive.ubuntu.com/pub/CLE/pub/ArchLinux/

10-Jan-2011 07:50
http://iso.linux.hr/archlinux/

17-Nov-2009 19:00
http://mirror.lzjtu.edu.cn/archlinux/

2010-Jul-24 03:10:30
http://ftp.free.fr/mirrors/ftp.archlinux.org/

phoenixlzx · 2013-10-15 14:22:19

Hello,

I know there are some sites hosting old packages, but the problem is, we have pretty limited diskspace -- only 300G available on our A.R.M server.

So currently we have only old packages in [core].

Last edited by phoenixlzx (2013-10-15 14:29:12)

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