[SOLVED] Poweroff and Reboot without Sudo

aldoiljazi · 2013-09-16 14:30:17

How can I Poweroff and Reboot my system without using sudo?

Last edited by aldoiljazi (2013-09-18 06:52:28)

ploub · 2013-09-16 14:39:30

Also in the wiki

karol · 2013-09-16 14:39:43

Outdated, but maybe still helpful: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Al … o_Shutdown

Edit: Why do you want to reboot w/o sudo anyway?

Last edited by karol (2013-09-16 14:42:27)

aldoiljazi · 2013-09-16 14:47:13

I saw those, and they are outdated. Well I don't want to type my password each time I reboot.

2ManyDogs · 2013-09-16 15:00:18

Did you try any of the solutions recommended by the wiki topic? "systemctl poweroff" should work.

Last edited by 2ManyDogs (2013-09-16 15:03:23)

aldoiljazi · 2013-09-16 15:09:18

I get

$ systemctl poweroff
Failed to issue method call: Access denied
Failed to issue method call: Access denied

karol · 2013-09-16 15:09:36

Users shouldn't be allowed to do things like installing / updating packages, rebooting or powering off the computer etc. You need to use sudo because of security.
If you don't want to type your password in when using sudo, follow the wiki.

aldoiljazi · 2013-09-16 15:10:10

Okay thanks.

Stebalien · 2013-09-16 15:27:12

@karol: systemd assumes that anyone with console access can shutdown/reboot the computer anyway (as they are sitting at the computer). Therefore, he should be able to issue `systemctl poweroff` etc. iff his session is setup correctly.

What is the output of `loginctl show-session $XDG_SESSION_ID`?

karol · 2013-09-16 15:36:44

@Stebalien
The wiki has

# systemctl poweroff

so I guess it's a typo, right?

I can't check if 'systemctl poweroff' works for me atm, but

$ loginctl show-session $XDG_SESSION_ID
Id=1
Timestamp=Mon 2013-09-16 16:22:30 CEST
TimestampMonotonic=18752776
VTNr=1
TTY=tty1
Remote=no
Service=login
Scope=session-1.scope
Leader=171
Audit=1
Type=tty
Class=user
Active=yes
State=active
IdleHint=yes
IdleSinceHint=1379341352989405
IdleSinceHintMonotonic=21376821
Name=karol

65kid · 2013-09-16 15:39:03

"poweroff" and "systemctl poweroff" are equivalent, "poweroff" is symlinked to systemctl. As mentioned, these should work just fine without password if you are in an active session (@Karol, your session seems to be fine).

Stebalien · 2013-09-16 15:42:31

karol wrote:

@Stebalien
The wiki has
# systemctl poweroff
so I guess it's a typo, right?

Yes. Fixed.

anonymous_user · 2013-09-16 15:55:05

@aldoiljazi - You might want to check that you have polkit installed.

karol · 2013-09-16 16:27:48

I was using old aliases for reboot / poweroff, but you're right, 'poweroff' and 'reboot' work w/o sudo.

Please check if my edits make sense https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?ti … did=275784
If I have more questions, I will open a new thread not to derail this one.

ploub · 2013-09-16 18:22:51

@karol: man poweroff (which references halt & reboot as well) says

NOTES
These are legacy commands available for compatibility only.

so maybe

systemctl poweroff

is more appropriate

karol · 2013-09-16 18:50:29

You're right. Fixed.

aldoiljazi · 2013-09-16 19:45:49

Stebalien wrote:

@karol: systemd assumes that anyone with console access can shutdown/reboot the computer anyway (as they are sitting at the computer). Therefore, he should be able to issue `systemctl poweroff` etc. iff his session is setup correctly.
What is the output of `loginctl show-session $XDG_SESSION_ID`?

$ loginctl show-session $XDG_SESSION_ID
Id=1
Timestamp=Mon 2013-09-16 21:11:47 EEST
TimestampMonotonic=13019390
DefaultControlGroup=systemd:/user/1000.user/1.session
VTNr=1
TTY=tty1
Remote=no
Service=login
Leader=130
Audit=1
Type=tty
Class=user
Active=yes
State=active
KillProcesses=no
IdleHint=yes
IdleSinceHint=1379355104466900
IdleSinceHintMonotonic=10330073
Name=aldo

mine.

Last edited by aldoiljazi (2013-09-16 19:47:04)

karol · 2013-09-16 19:56:31

@aldoiljazi
Does

systemctl poweroff

work for you w/o sudo?

aldoiljazi · 2013-09-17 01:09:07

karol wrote:

@aldoiljazi
Does
systemctl poweroff
work for you w/o sudo?

No, I get:

Failed to issue method call: Access denied
Failed to issue method call: Access denied

karol · 2013-09-17 01:12:08

Are you sure you have polkit installed?
If so, reboot and try again.

cfr · 2013-09-17 01:29:16

Why does karol's have Scope and aldoiljazi's has DefaultControlGroup but not vice versa?

Note: I'm just curious - I'm not claiming this explains anything.

EDIT: I'm guessing karol is using testing and aldoiljazi is not (http://upstream-tracker.org/changelogs/ … gelog.html).

Last edited by cfr (2013-09-17 01:36:14)

WonderWoofy · 2013-09-17 02:39:05

@cfr, karol runs [testing]. There have been some changes to systemd between what is in [core] (v204) and [testing] (v207).

karol · 2013-09-17 02:52:37

Yup, I'm using [testing]. Sorry for forgetting about it.

aldoiljazi · 2013-09-17 22:10:40

Yes I am not using [testing].

PS: Should I install polkit?

anonymous_user · 2013-09-17 22:14:00

Yes you should.

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