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#1 2013-09-19 16:31:51

Eiyeron
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Booting hanged.

Hi, I got some boot problems.
Since the installation in August, my computer ran perfectly Archlinux (execpt the TSC fast calibration fail, but that seemed to be non effective), but yesterday, my computer won't boot up on AL.

I did a lil' pacman -Syu to upgrade some package, like the last kernel and nvidia drivers, which installed without problems. Seeing that I was low on batteries and away from the charging cable, I tried to use the hibernate option. It failed and hanged my computer. Okay. Let's reboot. Nothing. It just freezes after the "Fast TSC fail". The last messages I get is pm complaining that he didn't found any hibernate image, and registered taskstats in level 1. The cursor is freezed to an Still Underscore of Death. Oh, and the fan is fanning like hell, like if the CPU was at max!

I tried some options on the wiki I had, like turning on booting debug messages. resintalling GRUB, reinstalling the kernel, the linux-utils, the PM package, reinstalling pacstrap base packages, reinstalled initramfs's RAMDisk, nothing. Hopefully, I still can access my files with the live CD, or the secure Wincrap partition. (God, I grown up to *hate* Windows).

I'm on a Asus X71SL Laptop, with  Intel T5550 @1.83GHz*2, a GeForce 9300m GS, and 3GB RAM.

Could you help me into fixing this boot problems, please? Thanks in advance!

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#2 2013-09-19 23:44:03

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Re: Booting hanged.

Did you follow any instructions in pacman's output? Did you read the news on the front page?

Use journalctl and/or dmesg to figure out what is causing the issue and post the stuff here (using code tags) or use a pastebin and link there if you need help. You can use something like wgetpaste from the command line to post stuff to a pastebin provided you can get an internet connection in the live environment (which I assume you can if you are reinstalling stuff unless you are just doing so from cache).

Is your system definitely up to date? That is, you definitely used pacman -Syu and did not just update specific packages? (I'm a bit unclear because you mentioned both pacman -Syu and updating specific packages.)


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#3 2013-09-21 10:13:52

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Re: Booting hanged.

I'm going trough journalctl. I always updated my system with pacman -Syu. I resintalled the packaged with -Syyu.

Edit: journalctl is not updated. Last messgaes is from the last wor'ing day. Link to the journalctl's last day

Last edited by Eiyeron (2013-09-21 10:46:26)

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#4 2013-09-21 11:32:00

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Re: Booting hanged.

what's the output of

journalctl --this-boot

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#5 2013-09-21 11:34:23

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Re: Booting hanged.

arcon wrote:

what's the output of

journalctl --this-boot

Run this with sudo to get much more info (I'm not saying that this info will be relevant ;P).

Eiyeron wrote:

I'm going trough journalctl. I always updated my system with pacman -Syu. I resintalled the packaged with -Syyu.

Edit: journalctl is not updated. Last messgaes is from the last wor'ing day. Link to the journalctl's last day

The last line says

sept. 17 16:59:36 Arch-Eiyeron systemd-journal[106]: Journal stopped

What's the exact command you used to get this output from the journal?

Last edited by karol (2013-09-21 11:36:01)

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#6 2013-09-21 11:41:51

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Re: Booting hanged.

Karol: journalctl.
Journalctl --this-boot only gives :

--logs begin at 2013-08-27, end at 2013-09-17--

(Shortened)

Last edited by Eiyeron (2013-09-21 11:42:56)

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#7 2013-09-21 11:47:07

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Re: Booting hanged.

Eiyeron,

Execute:

sudo journalctl --no-pager --this-boot > txt.txt

(Assumes you have sudo installed, otherwise execute from a root prompt).  Then post the contents of the txt.txt file that is created to http://pastebin.com/ and give the link here.  You could also place the contents of txt.txt in [ code ] ... [ / code ] tags here.


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#8 2013-09-21 12:02:00

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Re: Booting hanged.

I have sudo, I still can't boot. Do I have to run it in the chroot?
In the arch-chroot
In the live CD root

Last edited by Eiyeron (2013-09-21 12:07:35)

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#9 2013-09-21 12:04:14

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Re: Booting hanged.

Hmm, missed the part where you are unable to boot.  Sorry.

Yes, try to access your journal in a chroot.  Can't hurt.


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#10 2013-09-21 12:08:25

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#11 2013-09-21 20:15:19

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Re: Booting hanged.

Try accessing the journal in the chroot, using sudo but without the --last-boot flag. Since you haven't booted that kernel I'm not sure the --last-boot flag will give you much.


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#12 2013-09-22 10:10:45

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Re: Booting hanged.

I already gave the last day. I'll reboot to send the whole journal
Edit: Here

Last edited by Eiyeron (2013-09-22 10:21:53)

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#13 2013-09-30 18:27:32

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Re: Booting hanged.

Welp, I tried updating to the new kernel. Nothing changed. What informations do you need?

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#14 2013-09-30 19:39:43

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Re: Booting hanged.

You could try netconsole to see if there is anything happening during boot. Read this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Bo … et_Console and this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Netconsole

Edit: obviously booting from the failing installation, not a live-cd.

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#15 2013-09-30 21:14:28

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Re: Booting hanged.

Can you boot to the command line or rescue environment?


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#16 2013-10-01 17:18:45

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Re: Booting hanged.

Nope. With the Grub argumebt rescue, this chznges nothing, it seems to block way before.

I'll try to netconsole with my RPi. I'll give infos when it's done. Thanks.

EDIT: okay, that'll be a little more diffcult than expected, I have only access to wifi...

Last edited by Eiyeron (2013-10-02 16:19:35)

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#17 2013-10-01 17:25:03

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Re: Booting hanged.

Did you manage to downgrade to previous kernel via chroot.


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#18 2013-10-08 17:14:01

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Re: Booting hanged.

Never did something like downgrade. I can't netconsole through a wpa network. Can i
i just plug the RPi to the computer, and netconsole like this?

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#19 2013-10-09 23:02:54

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Re: Booting hanged.

Eiyeron wrote:

Never did something like downgrade. I can't netconsole through a wpa network. Can i
i just plug the RPi to the computer, and netconsole like this?

It should work. Don't forget to manually configure the IP address of the RPi.

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#20 2013-10-12 16:05:19

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Re: Booting hanged.

NOthing. I get nothing.
I plugged directly the Rpi to my laptop with an ether cable. RPi address : 192.168.1.42 (with/ot netmask 24), nc -u -l -p 6666, and laptop command line adding : netconsole 6666@192.168.1.42/mac_address_of_RPi.

The RPi gets absolutely nothing... :S I was sure that the network workjed (I succesfully remebered enough network lessons to make ping work between them! tongue )
Note: I tried to turn on kernel.ctrl-alt-del option in sysctl... No reaction. BUt it reboots in a arch-chroot. SYsctl doesn't seem to be loaded.

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#21 2013-10-12 16:31:45

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Re: Booting hanged.

Eiyeron wrote:

I already gave the last day. I'll reboot to send the whole journal
Edit: Here

Aug 27 22:14:27 Arch-Eiyeron systemd[1]: Cannot add dependency job for unit display-manager.service, ignoring: Unit display-manager.service failed to load: No such file or directory. See system logs and 'systemctl status display-manager.service' for details.

maybe relevant ?
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=145075

Last edited by NikTh (2013-10-12 16:32:07)


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#22 2013-10-12 16:41:46

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Re: Booting hanged.

THe problem here is not really the screen. I should too see the ShiftLock or NumLock LEDs change when I press the related keys, but nothing change too.

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#23 2013-10-12 23:57:19

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Re: Booting hanged.

Eiyeron wrote:

Note: I tried to turn on kernel.ctrl-alt-del option in sysctl... No reaction. BUt it reboots in a arch-chroot. SYsctl doesn't seem to be loaded.

https://www.archlinux.org/news/deprecat … ysctlconf/


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#24 2013-10-13 09:07:27

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Re: Booting hanged.

Aw right ><'

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#25 2013-10-18 18:26:35

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Re: Booting hanged.

I just tried to boot from the last Live CD, and it fail to load as it does with the installed kernel....

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