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#1 2013-10-05 12:58:58

MoHo1
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System does not boot on after "Welcome to Arch Linux!"

When I boot, first all works fine, I am be asked for my Password for the LUKS device, the root device (btrfs) is mounted and working, but after the message "Welcome to Arch Linux!" the system seems to do nothing.
With debug enabled the last message is "systemd[1]: Set hostname to <myhostname>" and ~6 min. later "perf samples too long (2503 < 2500), lowering kernel.perf_event_max_sample_rate to 50100".
After that It does nothing for at least 15h.
It is so since I had to poweroff the system hard (without magic sysreq, just power off). In the past I already noticed that it takes a longer time (max a few minutes) at that point if I had to power off it hard, but this time I also cut off the power during the first attempt to boot.

Short something to my setup: It is installed on a btrfs subvolume in an encrypted volume. Other OS on the same btrfs partition (Ubuntu and Debian) just works fine. The computer is a slow netbook, so it could be that sometimes much time is needed.
Also it is still possible to chroot in my arch system.

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#2 2013-10-05 17:57:39

Stev47
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Re: System does not boot on after "Welcome to Arch Linux!"

I've had a similar problem today after I upgraded to systemd 208-1. systemd would consume all cpu resources and after a reboot it stopped there at “Welcome to Arch Linux!” with no specific debug messages.
Downgrading to 207-5 using

pacman -U /var/cache/pacman/pkg/systemd*207-5*

resolved the problem for now.

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#3 2013-10-05 19:41:29

MoHo1
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Re: System does not boot on after "Welcome to Arch Linux!"

Thank you very much, it works.
Do you now whether it still works after upgrading systemd again?

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#4 2013-10-05 21:12:14

Stev47
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Re: System does not boot on after "Welcome to Arch Linux!"

Yes, it fails exactly the same way as I described above. I'm currently staying at 207-5, since other people seem to have problems with 208-1 too.

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#5 2013-10-05 22:38:16

MoHo1
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Re: System does not boot on after "Welcome to Arch Linux!"

Ok, then I will stick to 208-1, too.

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#6 2013-10-05 22:44:41

karol
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Re: System does not boot on after "Welcome to Arch Linux!"

MoHo1 wrote:

Ok, then I will stick to 208-1, too.

If some people seem to have problems with 208-1, this is either a typo or not a smart move.

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#7 2013-10-05 22:57:32

MoHo1
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Re: System does not boot on after "Welcome to Arch Linux!"

karol wrote:
MoHo1 wrote:

Ok, then I will stick to 208-1, too.

If some people seem to have problems with 208-1, this is either a typo or not a smart move.

Yes, it is a typo wink. I stick to 207-5 for the first time.

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#8 2013-10-08 05:06:41

stevebob
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Re: System does not boot on after "Welcome to Arch Linux!"

I'm having the same problem on a fresh install, and so I don't have a copy of 207-5 handy. Anybody willing to share/point me to somewhere I can download it?

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#9 2013-10-08 06:18:16

MoHo1
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Re: System does not boot on after "Welcome to Arch Linux!"

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#10 2013-10-08 11:30:10

stevebob
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Re: System does not boot on after "Welcome to Arch Linux!"

Thanks! Fixed my problem.

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#11 2013-10-08 13:10:33

falconindy
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Re: System does not boot on after "Welcome to Arch Linux!"

Debug output? Bisect the break? Rolling back is not even close to a "fix".

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#12 2013-10-08 13:32:41

MoHo1
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Re: System does not boot on after "Welcome to Arch Linux!"

I have already posted the last outputs with debug enabled:

Welcome to Arch Linux!

systemd[1]: Set hostname to <myhostname>
perf samples too long (2503 > 2500), lowering kernel.perf_event_max_sample_rate to 50100

(I cut out the times in the output, I don't have the here, but the last message is about 6 min after the previous ones.)

If I shall give more informations tell me which and where to get them - I'm relatively new to Arch and this is my first bigger problem.

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#13 2013-10-08 14:26:04

falconindy
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Re: System does not boot on after "Welcome to Arch Linux!"

Omitting the remainder of the output is a great way to put people off from helping you.

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#14 2013-10-08 14:47:36

MoHo1
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Re: System does not boot on after "Welcome to Arch Linux!"

The thing is, I only have photos of the output, no logfile.
I'm just trying to set up netconsole to get the output on my other computer, but that can take some time. If you know a better way to log that output or the pictures are fine (the last 1,5 pages), just write.

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#15 2013-10-08 15:03:04

WonderWoofy
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Re: System does not boot on after "Welcome to Arch Linux!"

Instead of asking other to ask you to post things that might be relevant, just post the damn thing!  You thought it was important enough to have taken pictures of it... why hold back information that even might be important.


BTW, I assume they are large pictures, so be sure to follow the guidelines for posting pictures.  This is explained in the Forum Etiquette page on the wiki, or you can simply look at one of the monthly screenshot threads for info on how to do this properly.  But it is probably wise to read the forum etiquette page in general if you intent to keep posting here.

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#16 2013-10-08 15:42:22

MoHo1
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Re: System does not boot on after "Welcome to Arch Linux!"

These are the images - text output may take some time:
http://jamp-koeln.de/arch/p1.jpg
http://jamp-koeln.de/arch/p2.jpg

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#17 2013-10-08 16:38:56

falconindy
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Re: System does not boot on after "Welcome to Arch Linux!"

What kernel is this?

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#18 2013-10-08 22:31:05

MoHo1
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Re: System does not boot on after "Welcome to Arch Linux!"

At that time: 3.11.2-1 (from core, i686)
Now: 3.11.4-1, but I haven't tested it with that kernel. I will do it soon.
EDIT: Same problem with kernel 3.11.4-1

Last edited by MoHo1 (2013-10-08 22:47:58)

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#19 2013-10-09 05:50:55

rafaleo
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Re: System does not boot on after "Welcome to Arch Linux!"

Same here kernel 3.11.4-1 i686. Exact same problem; "solved" it by downgrading to systemd-207-5.

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#20 2013-10-09 07:18:15

piratebill
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Re: System does not boot on after "Welcome to Arch Linux!"

Exact issue with the same model netbook as MoHo1.  Worst timing ever for a fresh install....

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#21 2013-11-23 00:03:28

Stev47
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Re: System does not boot on after "Welcome to Arch Linux!"

I just got around bisecting the problem in systemd, which got c51d84dc as bad commit.
Tried to revert it from trunk and test, but there were some conflicts and I'm not confident enough to mess around with it.

I've got the same netbook model as the previous posters: Acer Aspire One D270.

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#22 2013-11-23 12:15:01

Spider.007
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Re: System does not boot on after "Welcome to Arch Linux!"

Shouldn't you report this upstream? It seems to have no issue reported yet: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cg … earch=FPDT

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#23 2013-11-28 18:24:50

tuxfusion
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Re: System does not boot on after "Welcome to Arch Linux!"

i have 5 acer aspire one (d270) on my desk and if i knew how to get that nice debug output i'd like to report that bug myself. We have 5 more in a hospital and I'm getting annoyed by Acer and systemd. Downgrading is no solution at all.

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#24 2013-11-28 21:06:24

tuxfusion
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Re: System does not boot on after "Welcome to Arch Linux!"

it's already fixed in git upstream : http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/sys … 0035d4743a
I'm now installing systemd-git since there is no new realease after 208 which break acer aspire one (d270) support on all our machines.

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