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I doubt that they have passed a user test with random population of users to determine if having icons is better or not.
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I doubt that they have passed a user test with random population of users to determine if having icons is better or not.
The problem isn't that. There are people who prefers icons. So, why did they erase the option? It was a option. Now it's a imposition.
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Plus it appears that only very few developers have been made aware of this so the developer/application-side support of enabling/disabling icons is almost nonexistent at the moment. For instance, Evolution has many entries for doing just that but they plainly don't work at all.
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Such nice guys these Gnome devs. When ppl file a bug report and express how disappointed they are, the only thing they can say is to join the devs mailing list about GTK to discuss it there and not in a bug report. In other words: it's our own fault for not following every possible Gnome mailing list if something hits a stable version that we don't like. Apparently, once something has been released it is carved in stone somewhere and it's simply impossible to ever change that back again.
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Maintaining a lightweight fork (a set of changesets that undo what thye did) is the only solution for now and I think such fork will receive the interest of many people.
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@ulukai: I think it was more an invitation to take part in the ongoing discussion on the mailing list about this issue.
@pedromj: If you're looking for the patches to revert changes re: images in buttons & menus, I have them here (with a few other unrelated patches), since I maintain a few patches of my own for GTK3 (though I'm hoping to get them merged upstream eventually...).
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I have little hope they accept your patches, not because they are unreceptive about the patches but because it has been a meditated decision and they do not accept the problem as a bug. However, they can prove me wrong. I'll take your patches to manage a fork.
By the way, I have not tested the options "tollbar-icon-size" (I have this set to "small") and "toolbar-style" (I have this set to "icons") outside GNOME so I do not really know whether they are working on GTK or not. If anybody is using other XSettings manager, please, let me know whether they work or not. Thank you.
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I have a little hope too. I'm in a gnome from Ubuntu 5.04. I try others DE, but I love gnome. But yesterday was the first day that I think to change.
The other change can be worse or not, but the icons in the menu isn't a change, they did some efforts to destroy a option for the people.
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I have been using GNOME since version 0.3 (before it was sponsored by Helix/Ximian, which was good). The direction has been always the same: Every release reduces its functionality to gain usability (or what GNOME developers have interpreted as usability). All this time has been good because I found elsewhere the functions they removed but I have never seen so many disruptive/annoying changes in a minor release.
In the past, many projects used to watch GNOME as a good model to follow and many applications have moved from QT to GTK. Since GNOME 3.x was released, GTK has been too tightly integrated with the DE and I am seeing some projects moving to QT (e.g. Unity, LXDE) or even not considering GTK from the beginning (Hawaii). This is bad news for GTK.
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I found this as a solution: Ubuntu forum―GNOME toolbar icon size/style ignored in Oneiric (11.10). Did work for me.
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For those who want to have icons in GTK menus back, this worked for me in Gnome 3.12, including the Gnome apps like Nautilus and Evince : http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthrea … ost1680581
It seems you can set the relevant GtkSettings via the gnome-settings-daemon xsettings plguin:
- Open dconf-editor -> org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.xsettings
- Change the overrides key from: {} to {'Gtk/ButtonImages': <1>, 'Gtk/MenuImages': <1>}
Anyone knows a solution for the toolbar text + icons yet? I really only want to see icons, no text...
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