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#1 2013-11-04 20:10:38

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[SOLVED] x230 suspend issues

Hi there, is there anyone who are running arch on x230? I'm arch for several years. As soon as I got my new x230, I equipped it with arch of course. After a period of using, I'm satisfied overall, but only one issue perplexing. I need to move around with my laptop, and often I don't want to interrupt my workflow, so suspending the system is rather important to me. But unfortunately, suspending arch on my x230 is not so stable, and it randomly run into a crash : (

The main phenomenon when it crash on suspending, is that the power button would flash in high frequency (not like the smoothly blinking when in stand-by mode). And it lost all response, all I can do at this time would be holding the power button and force power-off. Is anyone else experiencing this problem too? Could anyone suggest a solution on this?

Thanks!

FYI, there is some brief information about my installation:
Kernel: linux-ck-ivybridge 3.11.6-1 (I've also tested with other versions including the ones in official repo, but doesn't help)
Using systemd to handle PM actions, and use sleep hook to do unloading/reloading suspend these modules: e1000e, btusb, iwldvm, iwlwifi...
lsmod output:

hidp                   16867  0 
e1000e                220625  0 
iwldvm                169666  0 
iwlwifi               136377  1 iwldvm
btusb                  18560  0 
rfcomm                 51153  4 
fuse                   74285  3 
pci_stub                1381  1 
vboxpci                14517  0 
vboxnetflt             17292  0 
vboxnetadp             18227  0 
vboxdrv              1822081  3 vboxnetadp,vboxnetflt,vboxpci
bnep                   11069  2 
x86_pkg_temp_thermal     6959  0 
intel_powerclamp        8610  0 
coretemp                6326  0 
kvm_intel             129209  0 
kvm                   377335  1 kvm_intel
hid_generic             1153  0 
crc32_pclmul            2987  0 
crc32c_intel           14249  0 
bluetooth             306004  27 bnep,hidp,btusb,rfcomm
ghash_clmulni_intel     4469  0 
aesni_intel            46060  1 
joydev                  9663  0 
aes_x86_64              7399  1 aesni_intel
lrw                     3565  1 aesni_intel
uvcvideo               71652  0 
videobuf2_vmalloc       3272  1 uvcvideo
videobuf2_memops        2111  1 videobuf2_vmalloc
videobuf2_core         26741  1 uvcvideo
videodev              107244  2 uvcvideo,videobuf2_core
media                  11559  2 uvcvideo,videodev
hid_logitech_dj        10663  0 
gf128mul                5858  1 lrw
glue_helper             4577  1 aesni_intel
ablk_helper             1972  1 aesni_intel
cryptd                  8473  3 ghash_clmulni_intel,aesni_intel,ablk_helper
arc4                    2000  2 
mac80211              451224  1 iwldvm
iTCO_wdt                5407  0 
iTCO_vendor_support     1929  1 iTCO_wdt
cfg80211              402217  3 iwlwifi,mac80211,iwldvm
snd_hda_codec_hdmi     29817  1 
snd_hda_codec_realtek    37276  1 
tpm_tis                10921  0 
tpm                    14739  1 tpm_tis
tpm_bios                9745  1 tpm
shpchp                 25457  0 
snd_hda_intel          36552  3 
snd_hda_codec         146849  3 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel
snd_hwdep               6300  1 snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm                76357  3 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel
snd_page_alloc          7202  2 snd_pcm,snd_hda_intel
snd_timer              18526  1 snd_pcm
pcspkr                  2027  0 
i2c_i801               11269  0 
ptp                     8180  1 e1000e
pps_core                8857  1 ptp
microcode              15024  0 
thinkpad_acpi          61629  0 
nvram                   5874  1 thinkpad_acpi
snd                    59013  14 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hwdep,snd_timer,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_pcm,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,thinkpad_acpi
soundcore               5450  1 snd
rfkill                 15698  6 cfg80211,thinkpad_acpi,bluetooth
psmouse                85196  0 
serio_raw               5041  0 
wmi                     8347  0 
lpc_ich                13112  0 
ac                      3324  0 
thermal                 8620  0 
battery                 6925  0 
evdev                  10693  14 
mperf                   1235  0 
processor              25077  0 
mei_me                  9296  0 
mei                    61715  1 mei_me
ext4                  469452  3 
crc16                   1359  2 ext4,bluetooth
mbcache                 5866  1 ext4
jbd2                   83376  1 ext4
usbhid                 41434  0 
hid                    89623  4 hidp,hid_generic,usbhid,hid_logitech_dj
sd_mod                 30611  5 
ahci                   22888  4 
libahci                21393  1 ahci
ehci_pci                4120  0 
libata                168950  2 ahci,libahci
xhci_hcd               90813  0 
ehci_hcd               47124  1 ehci_pci
sdhci_pci              12138  0 
sdhci                  29076  1 sdhci_pci
scsi_mod              128375  2 libata,sd_mod
mmc_core               95410  2 sdhci,sdhci_pci
usbcore               177927  6 btusb,uvcvideo,ehci_hcd,ehci_pci,usbhid,xhci_hcd
usb_common              1648  1 usbcore
i915                  609570  2 
video                  11380  1 i915
button                  4669  1 i915
i2c_algo_bit            5391  1 i915
intel_agp              10872  1 i915
intel_gtt              12664  2 i915,intel_agp
drm_kms_helper         35886  1 i915
drm                   234876  3 i915,drm_kms_helper
i2c_core               23592  6 drm,i915,i2c_i801,drm_kms_helper,i2c_algo_bit,videodev

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#2 2013-11-04 20:18:17

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Re: [SOLVED] x230 suspend issues

Sooo... what you are doing and the broad overview of what you are experiencing is all good.  But you fail to mention whether you have actually looked into the issue at all.  Have you checked your logs? Is there anything interesting when this problem occurs?  Does this happen in Xorg only or in the TTY as well?  Also, why are you unloading all those modules before suspending (and presumable reloading them after)?

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#3 2013-11-04 20:50:28

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Re: [SOLVED] x230 suspend issues

WonderWoofy wrote:

Sooo... what you are doing and the broad overview of what you are experiencing is all good.  But you fail to mention whether you have actually looked into the issue at all.  Have you checked your logs? Is there anything interesting when this problem occurs?  Does this happen in Xorg only or in the TTY as well?  Also, why are you unloading all those modules before suspending (and presumable reloading them after)?

Sorry for missing important information. Actually I have checked the logs before when I encountered this problem, but there are no helpful information. (I've attached some kernel log related to one suspending crash in the end of this post).
And according to my experiments, this issue is not related to Xorg/TTY, it can happen in both environment, and I'm using Awesome on Xorg normally.
For the unload/reloading stuff, I was doing this by referring this wiki page https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ThinkPad_X230, but actually they didn't help to solve the suspending issue. And for the btusb module, I need to reload it on resuming to solve a problem of connecting bluetooth mice after resume.

The following kernel log is extracted from a crash last night, while it just looks normal and the last message is caused by "rmmod btusb"(removing the unload/reload hooks doesn't help either).

Nov  3 23:55:50 arch-x230 kernel: [187513.705614] hid-generic 0005:17EF:6038.003A: unknown main item tag 0x0
Nov  3 23:55:50 arch-x230 kernel: [187513.705687] input: ThinkPad Bluetooth Laser Mouse as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1a.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.4/1-1.4:1.0/bluetooth/hci0/hci0:12/input57
Nov  3 23:55:50 arch-x230 kernel: [187513.705814] hid-generic 0005:17EF:6038.003A: input,hidraw0: BLUETOOTH HID v2.00 Mouse [ThinkPad Bluetooth Laser Mouse] on f8:2f:a8:e8:a6:99
Nov  3 23:57:40 arch-x230 kernel: [187624.125586] traps: nautilus[10054] trap int3 ip:7f66493e1249 sp:7fff233f7920 error:0
Nov  3 23:57:40 arch-x230 systemd-coredump[10057]: Process 10054 (nautilus) dumped core.
Nov  4 00:28:30 arch-x230 kernel: [189475.652585] wlp3s0: deauthenticating from 00:24:6c:31:b6:33 by local choice (reason=3)
Nov  4 00:28:30 arch-x230 kernel: [189475.657786] cfg80211: Calling CRDA to update world regulatory domain
Nov  4 00:28:31 arch-x230 kernel: [189475.922829] e1000e 0000:00:19.0 enp0s25: removed PHC
Nov  4 00:28:31 arch-x230 kernel: [189475.948476] usbcore: deregistering interface driver btusb

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#4 2013-11-04 21:17:43

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Re: [SOLVED] x230 suspend issues

Unfortunately, the x230 article is pretty poor overall.  The original author posted in these forums asking for review and advice of the page, but went on to ignore any criticisms about it.  In reality having to unload/reload kernel modules simply means that there is something broken in the kernel.  In the past, this was indeed necessary for some things to function properly during a suspend or hibernate, and thus we all used to use pm-utils.  But those days have since passed, and workarounds like that are typically no longer necessary, and certainly not for a whole crap-load of modules (though I am not saying that this might not be a reasonable workaround in the event that there are buts that this can prevent).

Unfortunately, I don't see anything that stands out as being a cause to your issue here.  It makes me wonder though if this happens in other distributions as well.  If you were to boot up a live media of fedora, debian, or whatever, do these suspend issues persist?  If so, then it might be something to do with the firmware of your machine, but if not, it is likely something about the current Arch linux packages.

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#5 2013-11-04 21:32:13

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Re: [SOLVED] x230 suspend issues

WonderWoofy wrote:

Unfortunately, the x230 article is pretty poor overall.  The original author posted in these forums asking for review and advice of the page, but went on to ignore any criticisms about it.  In reality having to unload/reload kernel modules simply means that there is something broken in the kernel.  In the past, this was indeed necessary for some things to function properly during a suspend or hibernate, and thus we all used to use pm-utils.  But those days have since passed, and workarounds like that are typically no longer necessary, and certainly not for a whole crap-load of modules (though I am not saying that this might not be a reasonable workaround in the event that there are buts that this can prevent).

Unfortunately, I don't see anything that stands out as being a cause to your issue here.  It makes me wonder though if this happens in other distributions as well.  If you were to boot up a live media of fedora, debian, or whatever, do these suspend issues persist?  If so, then it might be something to do with the firmware of your machine, but if not, it is likely something about the current Arch linux packages.

Yeah, I'm also confused that the logs can't provide any useful information, and just want to see of anyone experienced the same problem here. I've not done any experiments with other distributions yet, and maybe I'll do that after I get my other stuffs done. Anyway, thank you very much for your advice!

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#6 2013-11-06 07:53:47

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Re: [SOLVED] x230 suspend issues

I am having the same issues as OP. x230 with linux-ck freezes randomly while suspending. I disabled the e1000e module and it seems to be a workaround for now, at least it didn't freeze since I disabled the module

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#7 2013-11-06 14:50:00

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Re: [SOLVED] x230 suspend issues

IsSuE wrote:

I am having the same issues as OP. x230 with linux-ck freezes randomly while suspending. I disabled the e1000e module and it seems to be a workaround for now, at least it didn't freeze since I disabled the module

Thanks for providing this information! What do you mean disable? You add e1000e to module blacklist? I rmmod e1000e in sleep hook and reload on resume, but it still freeeze sometimes...

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#8 2013-11-07 10:29:59

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Re: [SOLVED] x230 suspend issues

zhtlancer wrote:
IsSuE wrote:

I am having the same issues as OP. x230 with linux-ck freezes randomly while suspending. I disabled the e1000e module and it seems to be a workaround for now, at least it didn't freeze since I disabled the module

Thanks for providing this information! What do you mean disable? You add e1000e to module blacklist? I rmmod e1000e in sleep hook and reload on resume, but it still freeeze sometimes...

Added it to /etc/modprobe.d/ , but I think unloading and reloading with a hook pretty much has the same effects. Maybe I was lucky the last 10 suspends

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#9 2013-11-07 16:13:41

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Re: [SOLVED] x230 suspend issues

IsSuE wrote:
zhtlancer wrote:
IsSuE wrote:

I am having the same issues as OP. x230 with linux-ck freezes randomly while suspending. I disabled the e1000e module and it seems to be a workaround for now, at least it didn't freeze since I disabled the module

Thanks for providing this information! What do you mean disable? You add e1000e to module blacklist? I rmmod e1000e in sleep hook and reload on resume, but it still freeeze sometimes...

Added it to /etc/modprobe.d/ , but I think unloading and reloading with a hook pretty much has the same effects. Maybe I was lucky the last 10 suspends

I had already add unloading/reloading action in the sleep hook before, but the freezing still happened... Now I have added it on the blacklist, and watch it for some time. Thanks for your advice!

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#10 2013-11-08 22:33:42

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Re: [SOLVED] x230 suspend issues

IsSuE wrote:
zhtlancer wrote:
IsSuE wrote:

I am having the same issues as OP. x230 with linux-ck freezes randomly while suspending. I disabled the e1000e module and it seems to be a workaround for now, at least it didn't freeze since I disabled the module

Thanks for providing this information! What do you mean disable? You add e1000e to module blacklist? I rmmod e1000e in sleep hook and reload on resume, but it still freeeze sometimes...

Added it to /etc/modprobe.d/ , but I think unloading and reloading with a hook pretty much has the same effects. Maybe I was lucky the last 10 suspends

Sadly, my x230 froze again this afternoon : (, though I had already add e1000e into the blacklist.

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#11 2013-11-09 13:04:06

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Re: [SOLVED] x230 suspend issues

Same for me, my x230 just froze while suspending. I am pretty clueless where to look. Logs seem empty. Any other suggestions on this?

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#12 2013-11-09 17:11:08

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Re: [SOLVED] x230 suspend issues

IsSuE wrote:

Same for me, my x230 just froze while suspending. I am pretty clueless where to look. Logs seem empty. Any other suggestions on this?

Well, as @WonderWoofy suggested, this is probably caused by the firmware of x230. Maybe we can focus on several usecase to further locate the cause of this problem:
1. Test on other Linux distributions, like Ubuntu, to see if this problem exists.(If so, at least this is not Arch-oriented problem)
2. Test on other OS, like Windows. (In my opinion, Windows should not have this issue, as Lenovo should have done plenty of stability test on Windows@x230, so if there are any problems, they should be solved immediately. Then I guess this is cause by some incompatibility between x230(maybe with some specific firmware) with Linux kernel?)

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#13 2013-11-12 05:05:46

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Re: [SOLVED] x230 suspend issues

I ran into this problem a few months back. Fixed it by blacklisting the mei_me module...

blacklist mei_me
install mei_me /bin/false

https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/36288


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#14 2013-11-12 06:10:16

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Re: [SOLVED] x230 suspend issues

earsplit wrote:

I ran into this problem a few months back. Fixed it by blacklisting the mei_me module...

blacklist mei_me
install mei_me /bin/false

https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/36288

Thanks for providing this information! I looked through the bug report, however I saw that the problem caused by mei_me is "resuming not working properly"? The problem I encountered is that my laptop doesn't go to standby mode properly randomly... But anyway, thanks all the same, and I'll try to blacklist mei_me to see if it works, as I have really no other way to solve this...

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#15 2013-11-12 08:25:45

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Re: [SOLVED] x230 suspend issues

Only for providing more context:

I currently don't have any lockups with Arch (3.11.6-1-ARCH) on the X230 despite suspendig it all the time. I do have a sleep hook unloading the e1000e device (see my addition the wiki: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Le … d_failing), but this problem wasn't about locking up anyway but only refusing to suspend.

I don't have mei_me blacklisted anymore as the issue seems to be fixed.

My firmware version is G2ET92WW (2.52).

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#16 2013-11-12 09:17:55

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Re: [SOLVED] x230 suspend issues

It's very bad to test suspend with kernel 3.11 because it has terrible bug!

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#17 2013-11-12 09:19:28

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Re: [SOLVED] x230 suspend issues

So downgrading to 3.10.10 may solve part of your problems.

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#18 2013-11-15 03:26:29

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Re: [SOLVED] x230 suspend issues

Speranskiy wrote:

So downgrading to 3.10.10 may solve part of your problems.

Thank you for providing the information! I'll try that. : )

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#19 2013-11-15 07:37:13

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Re: [SOLVED] x230 suspend issues

zhtlancer wrote:
Speranskiy wrote:

So downgrading to 3.10.10 may solve part of your problems.

Thank you for providing the information! I'll try that. : )

Yesterday kernel in repos was upgraded to 3.12 and it haven't this bug, so it's better to upgrade, rather then downgrade wink

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#20 2013-11-21 09:20:36

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Re: [SOLVED] x230 suspend issues

Sorry for mixing the suspend and resume issues, but IMHO it's somehow more important to keep the X230 things together: Starting with the 3.12 kernel update my X230 froze several time when I tried to resume it: Harddisk was spinning, but all LEDs and screen stayed in the sleeping state.

Blacklisting the mei/mei_me obviously resolved the issue.

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#21 2013-11-21 17:34:37

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Re: [SOLVED] x230 suspend issues

Hi,

on my side I use kernel version 3.12.1-1-ck and suspend/resume works fine under slim. I use XFCE and when I'm logged in suspend is fine but the resume is strange. Its goes back directly into suspend and then (the second time I try to wake it up) it resumes correctly.

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#22 2013-11-22 04:52:19

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Re: [SOLVED] x230 suspend issues

I've got another 3.12 issue I'd like for you guys to keep an eye out for. Does anyone else's x230 no longer have aspm support? Or is it just me? I went from using 7-8 watts up to 12 watts due to iwlwifi.

 »  dmesg | grep ASPM
[    0.142840] ACPI FADT declares the system doesn't support PCIe ASPM, so disable it
[    0.240711] acpi PNP0A08:00: ACPI _OSC control for PCIe not granted, disabling ASPM
[    3.929843] iwlwifi 0000:03:00.0: can't disable ASPM; OS doesn't have ASPM control

This also causes my laptop to run at about 45-50 degrees, when it used to hover around 42.  The fan almost never turned on.

Last edited by earsplit (2013-11-22 05:02:40)


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#23 2013-11-27 10:50:17

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Re: [SOLVED] x230 suspend issues

ASPM support doesn't seem to be on for me, either:

[faheem@LenovoX230 ~]$ uname -a
Linux LenovoX230 3.12.1-3-ck #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Nov 26 19:51:05 EST 2013 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[faheem@LenovoX230 ~]$ sudo dmesg | grep ASPM #Yes, I know this doesn't need sudo but usage of OS X has it ingrained into my mind
228:[    0.000000] PCIe ASPM is forcibly enabled
302:[    0.155415] ACPI FADT declares the system doesn't support PCIe ASPM, so disable it
346:[    0.226774] acpi PNP0A08:00: ACPI _OSC control for PCIe not granted, disabling ASPM
[faheem@LenovoX230 ~]$ cat /proc/cmdline 
BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-linux-ck root=UUID=593702c0-fc90-4c8c-b944-5610ffa9223e rw [b]pcie_aspm=force[/b] "acpi_osi=!Windows 2012" acpi_backlight=vendor quiet loglevel=0 ipv6.disable=1

I'm running BIOS 2.57 with Arch Linux booted in UEFI mode through GRUB2. Since it's mentioning the FADT table, maybe Lenovo messed it up in one of the newer BIOS updates (or it's always been dodgy and just not previously reported? I wouldn't know as this is a recent purchase and, subsequently, a very recent install of Arch).

On the topic of the OP, however: while I've not tested for long periods of time, sleep and resume do seem to be working fine for me without needing to blacklist any modules.

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#24 2013-12-10 22:57:29

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Re: [SOLVED] x230 suspend issues

Speranskiy wrote:
zhtlancer wrote:
Speranskiy wrote:

So downgrading to 3.10.10 may solve part of your problems.

Thank you for providing the information! I'll try that. : )

Yesterday kernel in repos was upgraded to 3.12 and it haven't this bug, so it's better to upgrade, rather then downgrade wink

Yeah, since updated to 3.12.x series kernel, the issue seems to be solved! So I'm marking this thread as [solved], though we don't know what the real underlying reason is...

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#25 2014-03-12 19:15:28

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Re: [SOLVED] x230 suspend issues

$ uname -a
Linux Stewie 3.13.6-1-ck #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Mar 8 03:35:14 IST 2014 x86_64 GNU/Linux

I still have a lot of issues. I can't shutdown, reboot or sleep... The lappy just enters into a state where:
+ the computer is running, consuming my poor battery
+ I cannot go back from this state. I can do anything, open/close the lid, power button, keyboard...
+ The power button is fading in and out indefinitely, like it does when it's actually sleeping

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