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#1 2013-11-30 21:22:38

Schala
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Arch-Darwin a possibility?

I had a rather peculiar thought recently. With the emergence of Arch-BSD, and the existence of Arch-Linux and Arch-HURD, I was thinking maybe someone could start Arch-Darwin? Apple does have Darwin open sourced and there exists a pretty neat third party Darwin distribution called PureDarwin I tested on Virtual Box. I was thinking with some tweaks from the source download on http://opensource.apple.com, a possible Arch-Darwin distribution is a safe bet?

It's just my two cents.


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#2 2013-12-01 02:16:51

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Re: Arch-Darwin a possibility?

Does the GNU userland run on Darwin? Does pacman? We can safely assume, that systemd won't. How do you define Arch-$KERNEL? Is it just a pacman driven operating system following the Arch way?

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#3 2013-12-01 02:29:48

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Re: Arch-Darwin a possibility?

Seeing as pacman's a bash script, I'm sure it can be modified.


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#4 2013-12-01 02:30:45

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Re: Arch-Darwin a possibility?

Schala wrote:

Seeing as pacman's a bash script, I'm sure it can be modified.

makepkg is a bash script, pacman is written in C.

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#5 2013-12-01 04:05:47

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Re: Arch-Darwin a possibility?

GNU's stuff should run on Darwin. At least, gcc etc. were provided by Apple or could be compiled from source (even on PPC Macs). Similarly for the autoconfig stuff.

No idea about pacman. C isn't a problem. Depends on what the C is doing, I guess.

systemd, I would assume not unless it runs on the BSDs, in which case it should be possible, in theory I suppose.

I'm not terribly clear why somebody would want to do this, except to see if it can be done, but that's a different question.

EDIT: Note that if Apple are now releasing something which you can actually compile into a working system, they have come a long way since their earlier releases when Darwin was unusable without binary blobs (I don't mean firmware) and didn't actually tend to work even with them.

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#6 2013-12-01 16:34:08

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Re: Arch-Darwin a possibility?

cfr wrote:

systemd, I would assume not unless it runs on the BSDs, in which case it should be possible, in theory I suppose.

systemd does not & never natively will run on anything other than a linux kernel this is stated by Lennart himself but obviously you could fork it!


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#7 2013-12-02 09:05:26

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Re: Arch-Darwin a possibility?

pacman should compile.  makepkg might have issues with some features that require ELF binaries.

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