infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

sl1pkn07 · 2013-12-02 01:59:47

@bohoomil
i think is the problem of the capital letters is a bit smaller than "large" small letters, like "l" , "k", "b", "d"

see exaple: http://i.imgur.com/ooo8S1n.png (zoom image)

i don't know if this behavior is configurable

greetings

bohoomil · 2013-12-02 04:18:30

Yes, I see what you mean. However, refer 'L' to other capital letters: Ubuntu Regular 10pt & Ubuntu Regular 14pt. The cap line is the same for all of them. In your screenshot the combination of letters is quite unfortunate because you don't have other capitals to optically and typographically compare 'L' with. The red line indicates the ascender line, which is not the same as cap line (the green one). The green line is actually the one you should measure the height of upper-cases with.

rumpelsepp · 2013-12-02 09:09:50

cfr wrote:

Which meta package? There are at least three!

I'm sorry.

$ pacman -Q | grep ibfonts 
ibfonts-meta-base 1-2
ibfonts-meta-extended 1-2

Earnestly · 2013-12-02 10:01:48

bohoomil wrote:

I think so.

So you think the irregular stem widths and the inconsistent x-height is normal?
Heh.

Last edited by Earnestly (2013-12-02 10:20:20)

bohoomil · 2013-12-02 16:20:01

I think we have been talking about Ubuntu (Sans), not Ubuntu Mono in the first place. Besides, criticism translated into a working improvement is always welcome.

hokasch · 2013-12-02 20:42:35

rumpelsepp, did you install lato from bohoomil's repo (t1-lato-ibx)? I think it is not pulled in by ibfonts-meta-extended. Maybe you have another, borked source for lato installed. When I did not explicitly install lato, it fell back to opensans.

Earnestly · 2013-12-03 01:14:35

Shrug. (Not using your packages)

Last edited by Earnestly (2013-12-03 01:18:04)

z1lt0id · 2013-12-03 02:40:12

When trying to compile any application that requires freetype2 it says it is not found anymore. A good example of this is with FFMPEG.

bohoomil · 2013-12-03 03:03:18

@Earnestly

Indeed, the difference is mindblowing…

@z1lt0id, the location of header files in 2.5.1 has changed. I guess I must have forgotten to update pkgconfig file appropriately (or just messed it). I will re-upload it in a couple of minutes.

Edit: Here is a patch for ffmpeg: click. This doesn't seem to have anything to do with the default location of freetype2 headers.

Last edited by bohoomil (2013-12-03 03:52:19)

z1lt0id · 2013-12-03 03:33:42

Thanks bohoomil. In the meantime I copied the headers and config files to /usr/include/freetype2/freetype

rumpelsepp · 2013-12-03 10:55:40

Hi,
in addition to my font problem in github (see here: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … #p1354483) I have noticed another strange problem. In the Python documentation there is something wrong with the code blocks. I have made two screenshots, which show my problem.

Python Docs:
Screen: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/372 … 7%3A24.png
Link: http://docs.python.org/3.3/library/configparser.html

My Firefox font config:
Screen: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/372 … 7%3A40.png

I have NOT customized anything in my fonts configuration and i have installed the following packages(groups):

$ pacman -Q | grep meta  
ibfonts-meta-base 1-2
ibfonts-meta-extended 1-2
t1-xorg-fonts-meta-ib 1-1

$ pacman -Qg infinality-bundle
infinality-bundle cairo-infinality-ultimate
infinality-bundle fontconfig-infinality-ultimate
infinality-bundle freetype2-infinality-ultimate

PS.: Is there any better way to attach images than dropbox?

bohoomil · 2013-12-03 22:03:48

@rumpelsepp, thanks for the additional info. Python Docs look as expected here. Could you please share the output of 'fc-match mono' and 'fc-presets check'?

rumpelsepp · 2013-12-03 22:08:02

bohoomil wrote:

@rumpelsepp, thanks for the additional info. Python Docs look as expected here. Could you please share the output of 'fc-match mono' and 'fc-presets check'?

$ fc-match mono
LiberationMono-Regular.ttf: "Liberation Mono" "Regular"

$ fc-presets check
 [ custom ] is not set 
 :: Run <fc-presets help> for more information.
 [ ms ] is not set 
 :: Run <fc-presets help> for more information.

 5 symlinks found.
 The active preset seems to be [ free ].
 Checking symlinks now...

37-repl-global-free.conf is OK
60-latin-free.conf is OK
65-non-latin-free.conf is OK
66-aliases-wine-free.conf is OK
93-final-lang-spec-free.conf is OK

bohoomil · 2013-12-03 22:13:20

Rename your .mozilla directory to .mozilla.bkp and check Firefox again.

rumpelsepp · 2013-12-03 22:16:47

bohoomil wrote:

Rename your .mozilla directory to .mozilla.bkp and check Firefox again.

Holy shit... It works. What the hell. xD
Thank you very much!

bohoomil · 2013-12-03 22:17:54

Now you have to find that extension/script/crap that has messed things up.

rumpelsepp · 2013-12-03 22:19:02

bohoomil wrote:

Now you have to find that extension/script/crap that has messed things up.

Yeah, I'm looking forward to...

joaocandre · 2013-12-03 23:55:23

So I've just installed this, everything looks a lot better! One rather elementar question though, does it only work with the fonts that the repo supplies? Do they have to be patched fonts or every font in my system is improved?

WonderWoofy · 2013-12-04 00:41:33

Check out bohoomils only other thread. He also has a repo of excellent free fonts that are available in convenient to use meta packages!

Edit: Recently I decided to reinstall, as I had a whole crap load of packages that I had installed to play with and forgot about and didn't feel like wading back through that. Besides terminus and stlarch (for my i3bar fonts and icons) I have only bohoomil's fonts on this machine. It is absolutely amazing.

Last edited by WonderWoofy (2013-12-04 00:43:15)

bohoomil · 2013-12-04 00:50:00

Thanks for the feedback. The answer is absolutely no: you can install any font you want or need. The fonts from the repository are not patched, they are just pre-selected and pre-configured, just like every typeface should be, but not each and every can be by default. The collection I offer is meant to ease the whole process of setting up the typographic back end in (Arch) Linux. Besides, due to various font formats available which require different and mutually incompatible fontconfig settings, as well as varied quality of the same family in different formats, infinality-bundle-fonts with infinality-bundle libraries should guarantee the unified experience for all users and machines. You can think of it as a free (as in 'freedom' and 'free of charge') alternative to proprietary font collections supplied with MS Windows, MS Office and Mac OSX. The only precaution is: before you install a third party font package, check if it has been included in our collection. If it has not and it does not render well enough with default settings, describe your problem in this thread and I will try to improve it, if possible.

joaocandre · 2013-12-04 11:38:55

bohoomil wrote:

Thanks for the feedback. The answer is absolutely no: you can install any font you want or need. The fonts from the repository are not patched, they are just pre-selected and pre-configured, just like every typeface should be, but not each and every can be by default. The collection I offer is meant to ease the whole process of setting up the typographic back end in (Arch) Linux. Besides, due to various font formats available which require different and mutually incompatible fontconfig settings, as well as varied quality of the same family in different formats, infinality-bundle-fonts with infinality-bundle libraries should guarantee the unified experience for all users and machines. You can think of it as a free (as in 'freedom' and 'free of charge') alternative to proprietary font collections supplied with MS Windows, MS Office and Mac OSX. The only precaution is: before you install a third party font package, check if it has been included in our collection. If it has not and it does not render well enough with default settings, describe your problem in this thread and I will try to improve it, if possible.

Thanks for the clarification. Then when I use 'set-preset' tool, what changes are not the font themselves, but only the config settings right?

bohoomil · 2013-12-04 23:09:42

@joaocandre, exactly. fc-presets is a simple diagnostic utility to check and validate your current fontconfig configuration, reset it and set a new one. It has nothing to do with physical font files management. If you are using infinality-bundle-fonts, you do not even need to touch this in most cases.

A little update to fontconfig-infinality-ultimate. For those of you who want to customize 37-repl-global-{preset}.conf, I added 36-repl-custom.conf, a template file activated by default in which you are supposed to introduce your changes. For instance, if you do not like a particular default substitution, or you want to replace a font that is not and will not belong to any of the default presets, just edit 36-repl-custom.conf, copy and paste the template and provide it with necessary font names. I will push a little update to the package in a minute which should prevent this file from being overwritten during updates. I believe this sort of customization may be found handy at times.

tumas · 2013-12-05 05:19:22

For the new update i am getting the following error:

fontconfig-infinality-ultimate: /etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf exists in filesystem
fontconfig-infinality-ultimate: /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf exists in filesystem
Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded
…

bohoomil · 2013-12-05 05:41:45

It is safe to use --force here. As the content of the files will probably change, we need a copy of each independent from stock fontconfig.

broken pipe · 2013-12-06 19:36:51

can anyone confirm that fc-cache -f leads to a segfault? i did a clean install today.

[root@ThinkPad markus]# fc-cache -vf
Segmentation fault (core dumped)

fontconfig-infinality-ultimate, which contains fc-cache, was basically one of the first installed packages, because i wanted to avoid any conflicts with the default fontconfig package.

Last edited by broken pipe (2013-12-06 19:37:44)

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