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#1 2013-12-03 20:37:32

dun32
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[SOLVED][ati catalyst]amdcccle won't start anymore

Hey all,

I spent all the day working on my MSI GX60 equiped with

[jledun@io0 ~]$ lspci | grep VGA
00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Richland [Radeon HD 8650G]
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Neptune [Radeon HD 8970M] (rev ff)

Everything was running fine until today.

To show something to my son, I tried to run a VirtualBox machine but it couldn't because :
'Your machine tries to run 3D acceleration but 3D is not defined on your host' or something like that.

So I tried to run 'sudo amdcccle' or 'kdesu amdcccle', no way, it doesn't start.

I don't have any error displaying in my cli.

I just can kill it after a few minutes.

I've read somewhere on an ubuntu forum that it was necessary to install qt, so I did but it changed nothing.

I really need my virtual machines, that's windows 7 and XP clients, if I deactivate 3D acceleration in configuration, I guess windows won't like it...

Help !

Last edited by dun32 (2013-12-21 13:22:28)

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#2 2013-12-03 22:44:07

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Re: [SOLVED][ati catalyst]amdcccle won't start anymore

When and what were the last updates you did on the Arch install?


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Problems? I have dysgraphia, so clear and concise please.
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#3 2013-12-04 06:32:29

dun32
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Re: [SOLVED][ati catalyst]amdcccle won't start anymore

Thanks for your reply,
I think I've found, there was a kernel update on 12/02 but no catalyst...
I'll downgrade kernel to make a try, what do you think ?

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#4 2013-12-04 07:36:39

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Re: [SOLVED][ati catalyst]amdcccle won't start anymore

Well... Hum....

I looked in pacman.log to see what was the last kernel update with catalyst update : linux-3.12.1-3

So I downgraded kernel to this version (virtualbox and virtualbox-host-modules too), reboot, re-installed catalyst and catalyst-utils, reboot and the problem is still the same : no 3D acceleration on KDE.

When I try to activate 3D desktop effects, it hangs, I have to kill kwin-opengl-test to use it again.

When I try to run amdcccle, the window never appears, it stays in background, without any error on cli.

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#5 2013-12-04 19:32:22

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Re: [SOLVED][ati catalyst]amdcccle won't start anymore

What's fglrxinfo command (run it while running X session) saying?
Can you paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /etc/X11/xorg.conf files somewhere.
I also suggest using catalyst-hook (+ linux-headers) instead of catalyst package.

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#6 2013-12-06 06:36:26

dun32
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Re: [SOLVED][ati catalyst]amdcccle won't start anymore

fglrxinfo won't work, it stays on my lilyterm without error message and doing nothing. I have to Ctrl+C it after a few minutes.

Here is /var/log/Xorg.0.log : http://pastebin.com/bLGvaYq3

Here is /etc/X11/xorg.conf : http://pastebin.com/X3w4XwCs

In order to minimise energy, I ran amdcccle after first reboot after first configuration and selected the low power option then reboot, everything was ok, my battery life lasts 4 hours, now.

At start, KDE autostarts kwin_opengl_test and 3D effects are not working. 3D effects start to work when I kill kwin_opengl_test.

I'm currently having a look at catalyst-hook.

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#7 2013-12-06 07:23:46

dun32
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Re: [SOLVED][ati catalyst]amdcccle won't start anymore

catalyst-hook installed, kernel is up to date, the problem is the same.

When I run fglrxinfo, the problem is the same, no effect, no error message.
When I run kinfo-center and try to have a look at video card informations, it hangs and does nothing too, I have to kill it to stop it.
Still the same problem at start : kwin_opengl_test is running, I have to kill it to get 3D effects on.

I had parametered OpenGL 3.1 for composite in KDE control center. I tryied OpenGL 2.0 and OpenGL 1.2, the result is the same for eah of these parameters.

I don't know what to do, now.
Maybe this afternoon, I'll try to install another DE or WM to check if it's a KDE bug or not.

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#8 2013-12-07 10:00:37

dun32
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Re: [SOLVED][ati catalyst]amdcccle won't start anymore

Well, I've installed razor-qt (which looks good, just miss an nm-applet, will look at that later) and it's the same, amdcccle won't start.

Should I try a not qt based DE ?

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#9 2013-12-07 15:51:37

dun32
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Re: [SOLVED][ati catalyst]amdcccle won't start anymore

I followed wiki for uninstall catalyst, reboot, then clean install of catalyst, reboot, it's the same.

But I've found a way to make it work : disable lxdm and reboot.
Then I remove /etc/ati/amdpcsdb at each boot, before running startx. Then I'm able to open amdcccle, check configuration, fglrxinfo gives :

[jledun@io0 ~]$ fglrxinfo 
display: :0  screen: 0
OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: AMD Radeon HD 8650G
OpenGL version string: 4.3.12614 Compatibility Profile Context 13.25.18

If I reboot again, the problem appears again, then I kill X, remove /etc/ati/amdpcsdb again and it works.

I'm going to see if the problem is the same with razor-qt.

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#10 2013-12-07 16:37:31

dun32
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Re: [SOLVED][ati catalyst]amdcccle won't start anymore

Well, with razor-qt, it's the same.

I've found something : after remove /etc/ati/amdpcsdb, I can run amdcccle.
If I choose Energy saver GPU, then, after reboot, I can't run amdcccle.
So I leave high performances GPU, it's ok, even after a reboot.

Is it a bug or something ?

I would really like to use energy saver because of battery life and low fan speed. Were can I report it ?

Maybe I would be more lucky with catalyst-test ?

Last edited by dun32 (2013-12-07 17:05:18)

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#11 2013-12-07 18:34:03

dun32
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Re: [SOLVED][ati catalyst]amdcccle won't start anymore

Well, even with catalyst-test, it's the same  problem.

I'll stay with it and try at new updates.

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#12 2013-12-08 17:30:58

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Re: [SOLVED][ati catalyst]amdcccle won't start anymore

I suggest filling a bug report here: http://ati.cchtml.com/

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#13 2013-12-08 20:06:40

dun32
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Re: [SOLVED][ati catalyst]amdcccle won't start anymore

Thanks ViOLO, I'll do that as soon as possible and refresh this thread if it's possible.

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#14 2013-12-16 00:40:06

dun32
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Re: [SOLVED][ati catalyst]amdcccle won't start anymore

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#15 2013-12-21 13:18:06

dun32
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Re: [SOLVED][ati catalyst]amdcccle won't start anymore

I've seen updates in catalyst repository then I did :
- systemctl disable gdm
- reboot
- log in as root, pacman -Rdd catalyst-test
- pacman -S catalyst catalyst-utils
- reboot
- checked if fglrx mod was on --> ok
- aticonfig --initial
- systemctl enable gdm
- reboot
- log in as user on gnome --> alt+F2 --> lilyterm
--> sudo amdcccle
- checked low power GPU
- reboot
- log in as user --> alt+F2 --> lilyterm
- sudo fglrxinfo --> YES ! got an answer !!!

So now, I'm waiting to check my battery life but I think my problem was solved by installing 13.12 proprietary catalyst driver...
Put this thread to solved.

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