System freezes with firefox

isofluran · 2006-01-16 10:16:44

Hi!

I want to describe a strange problem witch depends on running running firefox 1.5 on an system with the actual ck-Kernel and latest xorg with the nvidia driver. The machine is an older siemens celsius with two 550MHz Xeon processors and 1,2 GB RAM. This system ran stable with archlinux. But since 2-3 months the system freezes complete randomly after different times. I haven't had any idea what was the reason. But now I think it is the firefox browser who did it. Running my system without firefox, I have a stable uptime for nearly a week now. With running the firefox the system hangs after a few to 12 hours.

Does anyone have this experience? I haven't found any error messages, so the only I can do ist not to use firefox, but this is not a good solution for me.

Regards

Sebastian

Dusty · 2006-01-16 15:07:58

I haven't had any problems, but I've heard two other people complain about firefox crashing or causing freezes in the past week.

Dusty

Jefg60 · 2006-01-16 17:07:09

do you have any firefox extensions loaded? I just removed fasterfox because I noticed it was eating memory and occasionally crashing firefox.

isofluran · 2006-01-16 18:10:27

No special extension are loaded except a "DOM Inspector 1.8". It cannot be removed, seems to be a build-in default.
No special themes are installed and I have only these four (five) plugins:
SWF 7.0 r25
SWF 7.0 r61 (don't know why there is additionaly a second version)
Helix-Plugin 0.4.0572
Adobe Reader 7.0
Java 1.5.0 04-b05

Any ideas?

Lone_Wolf · 2006-01-16 21:37:47

Did you install the acroread and j2re packages with pacman ?

If not, remove the plugins from firefox and install them through pacman.

isofluran · 2006-01-17 09:21:49

I think both plugins are installed by pacman. Now I removed all packages mozilla-firefox, acroread, j2re, flashplugin and installed them again.

BTW I found the second flashplugin in my .mozilla directory. I deleted the complete directory because I don't know if there was a misconfiguration saved. So all is new and fresh now and I will launch (after a stable uptime of a bit more then 7 days) firefox and we will see.

You get a report if it works now or not (will take some time I hope).

So long!

Sebastian

Neuro · 2006-01-17 17:36:24

Well I've had the issues with Firefox regardless of plugins I run.

I tried removing them, but still Firefox was leaking memory/freezing during normal operations (like for example switching windows back to Firefox which was displaying Arch Linux Forums)

I'm now running Konqueror and am quite happy with it

isofluran · 2006-01-17 21:06:27

No success! The same problem as before: Full system freeze after not more than three hours of running firefox.

So, if noone has a better idea than Neuro I also will say goodbye to firefox.

Thank you for all your comments and hints!

Sebastian

acetylcholine · 2006-01-18 01:49:17

I reported a bug some time ago http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/2836
That it?

However, I have mistakenly told Jan de Groot (JGC) that it is fixed. It is not fixed. I need to contact him about that... Urgh...

pressh · 2006-01-18 08:06:13

Don't think it's gnome related. My firefox also is instable as hell (on fvwm). Over and over again window is not responding for couple of minutes, than starts working again, however no good performance after that.
I only start having these problems with the newest version 1.5-3 though. So not sure if I have same problem as you guys.
Also the memory leaks in firefox are irritating me
Anyway I switched to flock which makes use of the firefox code base, but I have not those problems with it.
So probably its one of those patches applied to firefox.

Neuro · 2006-01-18 11:21:14

pressh wrote:

So probably its one of those patches applied to firefox.

Not really. I tried solving the problems numerous times. Been through recompiling Firefox:
- from the official testing PKGBUILD with patches
- from the PKGBUILD without the patches
- without pango, with xft
- fetching code from CVS, from the Firefox 1.5.x (MOZILLA_1_8_BRANCH), where I hoped the issues got fixed

All these attempts failed Firefox kept on crashing. I guess it has something to do with the new Gecko engine introduced in Firefox 1.5. It just isn't stable. My father's got similar issues under Windows after upgrading to 1.5...

JimboP · 2006-01-19 14:33:43

I had a similar problem with firefox crashing (though rarely) when hitting a link.
In the BIOS changed display access from AGP4 to AGP2 and have not had a crash since - only firefox was affected, no other application.

isofluran · 2006-01-19 17:11:41

The problem is I don't get any log entry or any hint why the system stand still after different periods of time with firefox running. It depends not on how much firefox is used. There is no heavy load or a memory eating process running before the crash.
I dont like unstable applications, but i hate applications who crashes the hole system. I cannot remember an application crashing the hole system like firefox does.

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