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#1 2013-12-13 17:40:43

wildeyes
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Issues booting arch from USB in UEFI mode : Latitude 3330

I am trying to install Arch on my latitude 3330, burned arch to a usb, and got it to boot, though not in EFI mode.

It won't boot in UEFI mode. I checked "UEFI Boot Mode : Secured Boot OFF" (Through the BIOS).

I followed Create UEFI bootable USB from ISO guide (On windows, with the rufus+syslinux part, carefully working through all the commands) to create the USB, and checked with zgrep that EFI is included.

I tried `modeprobe efivars`: that gave me "No module efivars".
I tried `modprobe efivarfs`: no output, `/sys/firmware/efi` still doesn't exist, so I can't mount anything to it. (https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1349414)K

I read UEFI_Variables but to no avail.

What should be my next step in trying to get arch booting in UEFI mode?


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#2 2013-12-13 19:44:05

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Re: Issues booting arch from USB in UEFI mode : Latitude 3330

Did you use the dd method or manual formatting of the usb key? It is known that in some cases the dd method yields a key that won't boot to uefi on some systems and then the alternate method of writing the iso to the key is needed. See https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=173559

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#3 2013-12-13 20:06:59

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Re: Issues booting arch from USB in UEFI mode : Latitude 3330

Manual. Tried dd, didn't work, both from an Arch installation and from a WinDD.


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#4 2013-12-13 20:37:27

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Re: Issues booting arch from USB in UEFI mode : Latitude 3330

By the way I don't have the efivars module loaded on my uefi system - however even if the modprobe command you tried yields nothing the command, as root:

efivar -l

Does yield a load of output.

When you have booted your key in uefi mode try the command above - if it gives a lot of output then I think you are already booted correctly as uefi.  So maybe the wiki is out of date?

Also try the command

 ls /sys/firmware/efi/efivars 

That should also give a load of output if you are booted to uefi.

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#5 2013-12-15 20:05:21

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Re: Issues booting arch from USB in UEFI mode : Latitude 3330

I don't remember exactly what efivar -l outputs, but I remember trying it and it not working. I just tried booting Ubuntu from a USB, and it says, according to Ubuntu guide for UEFI booting that if you're getting the screen with the keyboard, you're not booted to UEFI - That means it's not an arch specific issue, but a Linux one.

Then it occured to me. When I press F12 to go into the "one-time boot menu", booting the usb is under "Legacy boot". I have no option to boot from USB in UEFI. the only thing under the "UEFI boot" header is 'Windows Boot manager" sad

I am going to complain to Dell and report back. Anyone encountered problems like this before?


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#6 2013-12-15 21:05:17

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Re: Issues booting arch from USB in UEFI mode : Latitude 3330

What if you interrupt the boot process and check your BIOS settings - I know you said that UEFI boot is selected, but some BIOSes also have whether uefi or legacy is booted first?

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#7 2013-12-16 07:56:59

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Re: Issues booting arch from USB in UEFI mode : Latitude 3330

I am not sure how this damn thing worked, but for future reference: disabling the ability to boot old legacy ROM's, and removing all the bootloaders from the "UEFI Boot load manager" in the BIOS did the trick. I worried I'd lose the ability to boot windows, but it automatically rediscovered windows, as it did with my USB key.

Mark it as solved, thanks for the attention Mike.


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