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#1 2013-10-24 16:32:34

jwhendy
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Registered: 2010-04-01
Posts: 621

Trying to switch from nvidia to nouveau; startx freezes system

I'm having high cpu issues, possibly related to nvidia and want to switch to nouveau to test this out. I followed the Arch Wiki for nouveau but am having issues being able to startx. My process:

- Logout of openbox
- Remove nvidia stuff:

# pacman -Rsc nvidia nvidia-utils opencl-nvidia
# pacman -S xf86-video-nouveau

Installing nouveau also prompted the removal of nvidia-libgl and replaced it with mesa-libgl, as well as the installation of nouvea-dri.

- Removed my existing monitor config file:

# mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-monitor.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-monitor.conf.bk

- Verified that I have no modeset options specified to kernel options via syslinux, nor blacklisting of nouveau in /etc/modprobe.d/ files.

$ cat /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf 
#
# /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf
#

blacklist uvcvideo
blacklist pcspkr
$ ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
10-evdev.conf  10-monitor.conf.bk  10-quirks.conf  50-synaptics.conf

Nothing related to monitors or screens in 10-evdev, 10-quirks or 50-synaptics, and the 10-monitor.conf.bk file has the following contents (just in the event it *is* picked up by Xorg):

$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-monitor.conf.bk 
Section "Monitor"
    	Identifier     	"Monitor0"
	ModelName	"LGD"
    	HorizSync       28.0 - 33.0
    	VertRefresh     43.0 - 72.0
    	Option         	"DPMS"
#	Option		"Enable" "True"
#	Option		"PreferredMode" "1600x900"
EndSection


Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Device0"
    Driver         "nouveau"
#    Driver         "nvidia"
    VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
    BoardName	   "Quadro FX 1800M"
    BusID	   "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection


Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Screen0"
    Device         "Device0"
    Monitor        "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth    24
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       24
	Modes	    "1600x900"
    EndSubSection
#    Option         "SLI" "Auto"
#    Option         "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
EndSection

- Reboot

I am at work and have my computer docked. Nouveau seemed to be active, observed by the fact that it auto-switched to KMS during boot. It also picked up my external monitor, which was off, and started duplicating the display on my external monitor and laptop during text boot (which nvidia does not do). The laptop had what I'll call "screen artifacts" on the lower right (white lines, jumbled pixels) after switching to KMS, but not a huge deal. I went to startx and it just froze after spitting out the various initialization lines. I have to hard kill and reboot. From there, I uninstall nouveau, re-install nvidia (which replaces mesa-libgl with nvidia-libgl), and reboot again to a working system.

Any suggestions?

Last edited by jwhendy (2013-10-24 16:36:15)

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#2 2013-10-24 18:56:42

alphaniner
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From: Ancapistan
Registered: 2010-07-12
Posts: 2,810

Re: Trying to switch from nvidia to nouveau; startx freezes system

When I switched in the other direction, some lingering config file in my ~ apparently caused issues. I don't remember what the issue was, but I don't think it was a system freeze. Starting X as a new user worked though, and eventually I figured out the problem config by trial and error. Unfortunately, I've also forgotten which config that was. hmm

Anyway, I know it's a big stretch comparing my situation to yours, but it's a pretty quick test in itself.

But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist.
-Lysander Spooner

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#3 2013-10-25 01:27:56

jwhendy
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Registered: 2010-04-01
Posts: 621

Re: Trying to switch from nvidia to nouveau; startx freezes system

Here's the recent Xorg.log:

X.Org X Server 1.14.3
Release Date: 2013-09-12
[   102.581] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
[   102.581] Build Operating System: Linux 3.11.1-1-ARCH x86_64 
[   102.581] Current Operating System: Linux bigBang 3.11.6-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Oct 18 23:22:36 CEST 2013 x86_64
[   102.581] Kernel command line: root=/dev/mapper/root cryptdevice=/dev/sda3:root ro initrd=../initramfs-linux.img BOOT_IMAGE=../vmlinuz-linux 
[   102.581] Build Date: 08 October 2013  08:48:10PM
[   102.581]  
[   102.581] Current version of pixman: 0.30.2
[   102.581] 	Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
	to make sure that you have the latest version.
[   102.581] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
	(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
	(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[   102.582] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Thu Oct 24 19:46:30 2013
[   102.599] (==) Using config directory: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d"
[   102.618] (==) No Layout section.  Using the first Screen section.
[   102.618] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults.
[   102.618] (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0)
[   102.618] (**) |   |-->Monitor "<default monitor>"
[   102.618] (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section".
	Using a default monitor configuration.
[   102.618] (==) Automatically adding devices
[   102.618] (==) Automatically enabling devices
[   102.618] (==) Automatically adding GPU devices
[   102.666] (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/".
[   102.666] 	Entry deleted from font path.
[   102.666] 	(Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/").
[   102.667] (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/".
[   102.667] 	Entry deleted from font path.
[   102.667] 	(Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/").
[   102.667] (==) FontPath set to:
	/usr/share/fonts/misc/,
	/usr/share/fonts/TTF/,
	/usr/share/fonts/OTF/,
	/usr/share/fonts/Type1/
[   102.667] (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
[   102.667] (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices.
	If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable AutoAddDevices.
[   102.667] (II) Loader magic: 0x7fdc20
[   102.667] (II) Module ABI versions:
[   102.667] 	X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
[   102.667] 	X.Org Video Driver: 14.1
[   102.667] 	X.Org XInput driver : 19.1
[   102.667] 	X.Org Server Extension : 7.0
[   102.667] (II) xfree86: Adding drm device (/dev/dri/card0)
[   102.671] (--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 10de:0cbc:103c:1521 rev 162, Mem @ 0xd2000000/16777216, 0xc0000000/268435456, 0xd0000000/33554432, I/O @ 0x00005000/128, BIOS @ 0x????????/524288
[   102.671] Initializing built-in extension Generic Event Extension
[   102.672] Initializing built-in extension SHAPE
[   102.672] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM
[   102.672] Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension
[   102.672] Initializing built-in extension XTEST
[   102.672] Initializing built-in extension BIG-REQUESTS
[   102.672] Initializing built-in extension SYNC
[   102.672] Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD
[   102.673] Initializing built-in extension XC-MISC
[   102.674] Initializing built-in extension SECURITY
[   102.675] Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA
[   102.676] Initializing built-in extension XFIXES
[   102.677] Initializing built-in extension RENDER
[   102.678] Initializing built-in extension RANDR
[   102.679] Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE
[   102.680] Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE
[   102.681] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[   102.682] Initializing built-in extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
[   102.683] Initializing built-in extension RECORD
[   102.684] Initializing built-in extension DPMS
[   102.684] Initializing built-in extension X-Resource
[   102.685] Initializing built-in extension XVideo
[   102.686] Initializing built-in extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
[   102.687] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
[   102.688] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-DGA
[   102.689] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-DRI
[   102.690] Initializing built-in extension DRI2
[   102.690] (II) LoadModule: "glx"
[   102.691] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
[   102.719] (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[   102.719] 	compiled for 1.14.3, module version = 1.0.0
[   102.719] 	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 7.0
[   102.719] (==) AIGLX enabled
[   102.721] Loading extension GLX
[   102.721] (==) Matched nouveau as autoconfigured driver 0
[   102.721] (==) Matched nvidia as autoconfigured driver 1
[   102.721] (==) Matched nv as autoconfigured driver 2
[   102.721] (==) Matched nouveau as autoconfigured driver 3
[   102.721] (==) Matched nvidia as autoconfigured driver 4
[   102.721] (==) Matched nv as autoconfigured driver 5
[   102.721] (==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 6
[   102.721] (==) Matched modesetting as autoconfigured driver 7
[   102.721] (==) Matched fbdev as autoconfigured driver 8
[   102.721] (==) Assigned the driver to the xf86ConfigLayout
[   102.721] (II) LoadModule: "nouveau"
[   102.721] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nouveau_drv.so
[   102.751] (II) Module nouveau: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[   102.751] 	compiled for 1.14.2, module version = 1.0.9
[   102.751] 	Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[   102.751] 	ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 14.1
[   102.751] (II) LoadModule: "nvidia"
[   102.765] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module nvidia
[   102.765] (II) UnloadModule: "nvidia"
[   102.765] (II) Unloading nvidia
[   102.765] (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)
[   102.765] (II) LoadModule: "nv"
[   102.765] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module nv
[   102.765] (II) UnloadModule: "nv"
[   102.765] (II) Unloading nv
[   102.765] (EE) Failed to load module "nv" (module does not exist, 0)
[   102.765] (II) LoadModule: "vesa"
[   102.765] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.so
[   102.776] (II) Module vesa: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[   102.776] 	compiled for 1.14.0, module version = 2.3.2
[   102.776] 	Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[   102.776] 	ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 14.1
[   102.776] (II) LoadModule: "modesetting"
[   102.776] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module modesetting
[   102.776] (II) UnloadModule: "modesetting"
[   102.776] (II) Unloading modesetting
[   102.776] (EE) Failed to load module "modesetting" (module does not exist, 0)
[   102.776] (II) LoadModule: "fbdev"
[   102.776] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module fbdev
[   102.776] (II) UnloadModule: "fbdev"
[   102.776] (II) Unloading fbdev
[   102.776] (EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0)
[   102.776] (II) NOUVEAU driver 
[   102.776] (II) NOUVEAU driver for NVIDIA chipset families :
[   102.776] 	RIVA TNT        (NV04)
[   102.776] 	RIVA TNT2       (NV05)
[   102.776] 	GeForce 256     (NV10)
[   102.776] 	GeForce 2       (NV11, NV15)
[   102.776] 	GeForce 4MX     (NV17, NV18)
[   102.776] 	GeForce 3       (NV20)
[   102.776] 	GeForce 4Ti     (NV25, NV28)
[   102.776] 	GeForce FX      (NV3x)
[   102.776] 	GeForce 6       (NV4x)
[   102.776] 	GeForce 7       (G7x)
[   102.776] 	GeForce 8       (G8x)
[   102.776] 	GeForce GTX 200 (NVA0)
[   102.776] 	GeForce GTX 400 (NVC0)
[   102.776] (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa
[   102.776] (++) using VT number 1

[   102.776] (II) [drm] nouveau interface version: 1.1.1
[   102.777] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for vesa
[   102.777] (II) Loading sub module "dri2"
[   102.777] (II) LoadModule: "dri2"
[   102.777] (II) Module "dri2" already built-in
[   102.777] (--) NOUVEAU(0): Chipset: "NVIDIA NVA3"
[   102.777] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Creating default Display subsection in Screen section
	"Default Screen Section" for depth/fbbpp 24/32
[   102.777] (==) NOUVEAU(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
[   102.777] (==) NOUVEAU(0): RGB weight 888
[   102.777] (==) NOUVEAU(0): Default visual is TrueColor
[   102.777] (==) NOUVEAU(0): Using HW cursor
[   102.777] (==) NOUVEAU(0): GLX sync to VBlank disabled.
[   102.777] (==) NOUVEAU(0): Page flipping enabled
[   102.777] (==) NOUVEAU(0): Swap limit set to 2 [Max allowed 2]
[   102.845] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Output LVDS-1 has no monitor section
[   102.950] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Output DP-1 has no monitor section
[   103.056] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Output DP-2 has no monitor section
[   103.056] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Output eDP-1 has no monitor section
[   103.163] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Output DP-3 has no monitor section
[   103.184] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Output VGA-1 has no monitor section
[   103.211] (II) NOUVEAU(0): EDID for output LVDS-1
[   103.211] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Manufacturer: CMO  Model: 1595  Serial#: 0
[   103.211] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Year: 2009  Week: 12
[   103.211] (II) NOUVEAU(0): EDID Version: 1.3
[   103.211] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Digital Display Input
[   103.211] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Max Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 34  vert.: 19
[   103.211] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Gamma: 2.20
[   103.211] (II) NOUVEAU(0): No DPMS capabilities specified
[   103.211] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Supported color encodings: RGB 4:4:4 YCrCb 4:4:4 
[   103.211] (II) NOUVEAU(0): First detailed timing is preferred mode
[   103.211] (II) NOUVEAU(0): redX: 0.610 redY: 0.343   greenX: 0.342 greenY: 0.581
[   103.211] (II) NOUVEAU(0): blueX: 0.162 blueY: 0.083   whiteX: 0.313 whiteY: 0.329
[   103.211] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0
[   103.211] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Supported detailed timing:
[   103.211] (II) NOUVEAU(0): clock: 107.8 MHz   Image Size:  344 x 193 mm
[   103.211] (II) NOUVEAU(0): h_active: 1600  h_sync: 1626  h_sync_end 1686 h_blank_end 1892 h_border: 0
[   103.211] (II) NOUVEAU(0): v_active: 900  v_sync: 909  v_sync_end 919 v_blanking: 949 v_border: 0
[   103.212] (II) NOUVEAU(0):  N156O6-L01
[   103.212] (II) NOUVEAU(0):  CMO
[   103.212] (II) NOUVEAU(0):  N156O6-L01
[   103.212] (II) NOUVEAU(0): EDID (in hex):
[   103.212] (II) NOUVEAU(0): 	00ffffffffffff000daf951500000000
[   103.212] (II) NOUVEAU(0): 	0c130103802213780a7b959c57579429
[   103.212] (II) NOUVEAU(0): 	15505400000001010101010101010101
[   103.212] (II) NOUVEAU(0): 	0101010101011c2a4024618431301a3c
[   103.212] (II) NOUVEAU(0): 	9a0058c110000018000000fe004e3135
[   103.212] (II) NOUVEAU(0): 	364f362d4c30310a2020000000fe0043
[   103.212] (II) NOUVEAU(0): 	4d4f0a202020202020202020000000fe
[   103.212] (II) NOUVEAU(0): 	004e3135364f362d4c30310a2020001c
[   103.212] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Printing probed modes for output LVDS-1
[   103.212] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline "1600x900"x60.0  107.80  1600 1626 1686 1892  900 909 919 949 -hsync -vsync (57.0 kHz eP)
[   103.212] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline "1152x864"x60.0   81.75  1152 1216 1336 1520  864 867 871 897 -hsync +vsync (53.8 kHz e)
[   103.212] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline "1024x768"x59.9   63.50  1024 1072 1176 1328  768 771 775 798 -hsync +vsync (47.8 kHz e)
[   103.212] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline "800x600"x59.9   38.25  800 832 912 1024  600 603 607 624 -hsync +vsync (37.4 kHz e)
[   103.212] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline "640x480"x59.4   23.75  640 664 720 800  480 483 487 500 -hsync +vsync (29.7 kHz e)
[   103.212] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline "720x400"x59.6   22.25  720 744 808 896  400 403 413 417 -hsync +vsync (24.8 kHz e)
[   103.212] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline "640x400"x60.0   20.00  640 664 720 800  400 403 409 417 -hsync +vsync (25.0 kHz e)
[   103.212] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline "640x350"x59.8   17.50  640 664 720 800  350 353 363 366 -hsync +vsync (21.9 kHz e)
[   103.316] (II) NOUVEAU(0): EDID for output DP-1
[   103.423] (II) NOUVEAU(0): EDID for output DP-2
[   103.423] (II) NOUVEAU(0): EDID for output eDP-1
[   103.530] (II) NOUVEAU(0): EDID for output DP-3
[   103.550] (II) NOUVEAU(0): EDID for output VGA-1
[   103.550] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Output LVDS-1 connected
[   103.550] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Output DP-1 disconnected
[   103.550] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Output DP-2 disconnected
[   103.551] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Output eDP-1 disconnected
[   103.551] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Output DP-3 disconnected
[   103.551] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Output VGA-1 disconnected
[   103.551] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Using exact sizes for initial modes
[   103.551] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Output LVDS-1 using initial mode 1600x900
[   103.551] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Using default gamma of (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) unless otherwise stated.
[   103.551] (--) NOUVEAU(0): Virtual size is 1600x900 (pitch 0)
[   103.551] (**) NOUVEAU(0):  Driver mode "1600x900": 107.8 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 57.0 kHz, 60.0 Hz
[   103.551] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline "1600x900"x60.0  107.80  1600 1626 1686 1892  900 909 919 949 -hsync -vsync (57.0 kHz eP)
[   103.551] (**) NOUVEAU(0):  Driver mode "1152x864": 81.8 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 53.8 kHz, 60.0 Hz
[   103.551] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline "1152x864"x60.0   81.75  1152 1216 1336 1520  864 867 871 897 -hsync +vsync (53.8 kHz e)
[   103.551] (**) NOUVEAU(0):  Driver mode "1024x768": 63.5 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 47.8 kHz, 59.9 Hz
[   103.551] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline "1024x768"x59.9   63.50  1024 1072 1176 1328  768 771 775 798 -hsync +vsync (47.8 kHz e)
[   103.551] (**) NOUVEAU(0):  Driver mode "800x600": 38.2 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 37.4 kHz, 59.9 Hz
[   103.551] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline "800x600"x59.9   38.25  800 832 912 1024  600 603 607 624 -hsync +vsync (37.4 kHz e)
[   103.551] (**) NOUVEAU(0):  Driver mode "640x480": 23.8 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 29.7 kHz, 59.4 Hz
[   103.551] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline "640x480"x59.4   23.75  640 664 720 800  480 483 487 500 -hsync +vsync (29.7 kHz e)
[   103.551] (**) NOUVEAU(0):  Driver mode "720x400": 22.2 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 24.8 kHz, 59.6 Hz
[   103.551] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline "720x400"x59.6   22.25  720 744 808 896  400 403 413 417 -hsync +vsync (24.8 kHz e)
[   103.551] (**) NOUVEAU(0):  Driver mode "640x400": 20.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 25.0 kHz, 60.0 Hz
[   103.551] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline "640x400"x60.0   20.00  640 664 720 800  400 403 409 417 -hsync +vsync (25.0 kHz e)
[   103.551] (**) NOUVEAU(0):  Driver mode "640x350": 17.5 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 21.9 kHz, 59.8 Hz
[   103.551] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline "640x350"x59.8   17.50  640 664 720 800  350 353 363 366 -hsync +vsync (21.9 kHz e)
[   103.551] (==) NOUVEAU(0): DPI set to (96, 96)
[   103.551] (II) Loading sub module "fb"
[   103.551] (II) LoadModule: "fb"
[   103.551] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libfb.so
[   105.504] (II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[   105.504] 	compiled for 1.14.3, module version = 1.0.0
[   105.504] 	ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4
[   105.504] (II) Loading sub module "exa"
[   105.504] (II) LoadModule: "exa"
[   105.504] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libexa.so
[   105.508] (II) Module exa: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[   105.508] 	compiled for 1.14.3, module version = 2.6.0
[   105.508] 	ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 14.1
[   105.508] (II) Loading sub module "shadowfb"
[   105.508] (II) LoadModule: "shadowfb"
[   105.508] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libshadowfb.so
[   105.518] (II) Module shadowfb: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[   105.518] 	compiled for 1.14.3, module version = 1.0.0
[   105.518] 	ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4
[   105.518] (II) UnloadModule: "vesa"
[   105.518] (II) Unloading vesa
[   105.518] (--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp
[   105.521] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Opened GPU channel 0
[   105.547] (II) NOUVEAU(0): [DRI2] Setup complete
[   105.547] (II) NOUVEAU(0): [DRI2]   DRI driver: nouveau
[   105.547] (II) NOUVEAU(0): [DRI2]   VDPAU driver: nouveau
[   108.224] (II) EXA(0): Driver allocated offscreen pixmaps
[   108.224] (II) EXA(0): Driver registered support for the following operations:
[   108.224] (II)         Solid
[   108.224] (II)         Copy
[   108.224] (II)         Composite (RENDER acceleration)
[   108.224] (II)         UploadToScreen
[   108.224] (II)         DownloadFromScreen
[   108.224] (==) NOUVEAU(0): Backing store disabled
[   108.224] (==) NOUVEAU(0): Silken mouse enabled
[   108.226] (II) NOUVEAU(0): [XvMC] Associated with Nouveau GeForce 8/9 Textured Video.
[   108.226] (II) NOUVEAU(0): [XvMC] Extension initialized.
[   108.226] (==) NOUVEAU(0): DPMS enabled
[   108.226] (II) NOUVEAU(0): RandR 1.2 enabled, ignore the following RandR disabled message.
[   108.228] (--) RandR disabled
[   142.503] (II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer
[   142.503] (II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_INTEL_swap_event
[   142.504] (II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_ARB_create_context
[   142.504] (II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_ARB_create_context_profile
[   142.504] (II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_EXT_create_context_es2_profile
[   142.504] (II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_SGI_swap_control and GLX_MESA_swap_control
[   142.504] (II) AIGLX: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap backed by buffer objects
[   142.505] (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized nouveau
[   142.505] (II) GLX: Initialized DRI2 GL provider for screen 0
[   159.503] (II) NOUVEAU(0): NVEnterVT is called.
[   159.532] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Setting screen physical size to 423 x 238
[   159.532] resize called 1600 900
[   160.324] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Power Button (/dev/input/event3)
[   160.324] (**) Power Button: Applying InputClass "evdev keyboard catchall"
[   160.324] (II) LoadModule: "evdev"
[   160.324] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/evdev_drv.so
[   160.355] (II) Module evdev: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[   160.355] 	compiled for 1.14.3, module version = 2.8.2
[   160.355] 	Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
[   160.355] 	ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 19.1
[   160.355] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Power Button'
[   160.355] (**) Power Button: always reports core events
[   160.355] (**) evdev: Power Button: Device: "/dev/input/event3"
[   160.355] (--) evdev: Power Button: Vendor 0 Product 0x1
[   160.355] (--) evdev: Power Button: Found keys
[   160.355] (II) evdev: Power Button: Configuring as keyboard
[   160.355] (**) Option "config_info" "udev:/sys/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXPWRBN:00/input/input3/event3"
[   160.355] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Power Button" (type: KEYBOARD, id 6)
[   160.355] (**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
[   160.355] (**) Option "xkb_model" "pc104"
[   160.355] (**) Option "xkb_layout" "us"
[   160.392] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Video Bus (/dev/input/event4)
[   160.392] (**) Video Bus: Applying InputClass "evdev keyboard catchall"
[   160.392] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Video Bus'
[   160.392] (**) Video Bus: always reports core events
[   160.392] (**) evdev: Video Bus: Device: "/dev/input/event4"
[   160.392] (--) evdev: Video Bus: Vendor 0 Product 0x6
[   160.392] (--) evdev: Video Bus: Found keys
[   160.392] (II) evdev: Video Bus: Configuring as keyboard
[   160.392] (**) Option "config_info" "udev:/sys/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/device:00/PNP0A08:00/device:03/LNXVIDEO:00/input/input4/event4"
[   160.392] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Video Bus" (type: KEYBOARD, id 7)
[   160.392] (**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
[   160.392] (**) Option "xkb_model" "pc104"
[   160.393] (**) Option "xkb_layout" "us"
[   160.393] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Lid Switch (/dev/input/event2)
[   160.393] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[   160.393] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[   160.394] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Sleep Button (/dev/input/event1)
[   160.394] (**) Sleep Button: Applying InputClass "evdev keyboard catchall"
[   160.394] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Sleep Button'
[   160.394] (**) Sleep Button: always reports core events
[   160.394] (**) evdev: Sleep Button: Device: "/dev/input/event1"
[   160.394] (--) evdev: Sleep Button: Vendor 0 Product 0x3
[   160.394] (--) evdev: Sleep Button: Found keys
[   160.394] (II) evdev: Sleep Button: Configuring as keyboard
[   160.394] (**) Option "config_info" "udev:/sys/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/device:00/PNP0C0E:00/input/input1/event1"
[   160.394] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Sleep Button" (type: KEYBOARD, id 8)
[   160.394] (**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
[   160.394] (**) Option "xkb_model" "pc104"
[   160.394] (**) Option "xkb_layout" "us"
[   160.395] (II) config/udev: Adding drm device (/dev/dri/card0)
[   160.396] (II) config/udev: Adding input device HDA NVidia HDMI/DP,pcm=9 (/dev/input/event13)
[   160.396] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[   160.396] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[   160.396] (II) config/udev: Adding input device HDA NVidia HDMI/DP,pcm=8 (/dev/input/event14)
[   160.396] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[   160.396] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[   160.397] (II) config/udev: Adding input device HDA NVidia HDMI/DP,pcm=7 (/dev/input/event15)
[   160.397] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[   160.397] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[   160.397] (II) config/udev: Adding input device HDA NVidia HDMI/DP,pcm=3 (/dev/input/event16)
[   160.397] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[   160.397] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[   160.398] (II) config/udev: Adding input device HDA Digital PCBeep (/dev/input/event6)
[   160.398] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[   160.398] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[   160.398] (II) config/udev: Adding input device HDA Intel MID Mic (/dev/input/event10)
[   160.398] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[   160.398] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[   160.399] (II) config/udev: Adding input device HDA Intel MID Dock Headphone (/dev/input/event7)
[   160.399] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[   160.399] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[   160.399] (II) config/udev: Adding input device HDA Intel MID Headphone (/dev/input/event8)
[   160.399] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[   160.399] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[   160.400] (II) config/udev: Adding input device HDA Intel MID Line (/dev/input/event9)
[   160.400] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[   160.400] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[   160.400] (II) config/udev: Adding input device AT Translated Set 2 keyboard (/dev/input/event0)
[   160.400] (**) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Applying InputClass "evdev keyboard catchall"
[   160.401] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'AT Translated Set 2 keyboard'
[   160.401] (**) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: always reports core events
[   160.401] (**) evdev: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Device: "/dev/input/event0"
[   160.401] (--) evdev: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Vendor 0x1 Product 0x1
[   160.401] (--) evdev: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Found keys
[   160.401] (II) evdev: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Configuring as keyboard
[   160.401] (**) Option "config_info" "udev:/sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio0/input/input0/event0"
[   160.401] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "AT Translated Set 2 keyboard" (type: KEYBOARD, id 9)
[   160.401] (**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
[   160.401] (**) Option "xkb_model" "pc104"
[   160.401] (**) Option "xkb_layout" "us"
[   160.402] (II) config/udev: Adding input device PS/2 Generic Mouse (/dev/input/event11)
[   160.402] (**) PS/2 Generic Mouse: Applying InputClass "evdev pointer catchall"
[   160.402] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'PS/2 Generic Mouse'
[   160.402] (**) PS/2 Generic Mouse: always reports core events
[   160.402] (**) evdev: PS/2 Generic Mouse: Device: "/dev/input/event11"
[   160.402] (--) evdev: PS/2 Generic Mouse: Vendor 0x2 Product 0x1
[   160.402] (--) evdev: PS/2 Generic Mouse: Found 3 mouse buttons
[   160.402] (--) evdev: PS/2 Generic Mouse: Found relative axes
[   160.402] (--) evdev: PS/2 Generic Mouse: Found x and y relative axes
[   160.402] (II) evdev: PS/2 Generic Mouse: Configuring as mouse
[   160.402] (**) evdev: PS/2 Generic Mouse: YAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
[   160.402] (**) evdev: PS/2 Generic Mouse: EmulateWheelButton: 4, EmulateWheelInertia: 10, EmulateWheelTimeout: 200
[   160.402] (**) Option "config_info" "udev:/sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input11/event11"
[   160.402] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "PS/2 Generic Mouse" (type: MOUSE, id 10)
[   160.402] (II) evdev: PS/2 Generic Mouse: initialized for relative axes.
[   160.402] (**) PS/2 Generic Mouse: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1
[   160.403] (**) PS/2 Generic Mouse: (accel) acceleration profile 0
[   160.403] (**) PS/2 Generic Mouse: (accel) acceleration factor: 2.000
[   160.403] (**) PS/2 Generic Mouse: (accel) acceleration threshold: 4
[   160.403] (II) config/udev: Adding input device PS/2 Generic Mouse (/dev/input/mouse0)
[   160.403] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[   160.403] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[   160.403] (II) config/udev: Adding input device SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad (/dev/input/event17)
[   160.403] (**) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: Applying InputClass "evdev touchpad catchall"
[   160.403] (**) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: Applying InputClass "touchpad catchall"
[   160.403] (II) LoadModule: "synaptics"
[   160.403] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/synaptics_drv.so
[   160.415] (II) Module synaptics: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[   160.415] 	compiled for 1.14.1, module version = 1.7.1
[   160.415] 	Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
[   160.415] 	ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 19.1
[   160.415] (II) Using input driver 'synaptics' for 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad'
[   160.415] (**) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: always reports core events
[   160.415] (**) Option "Device" "/dev/input/event17"
[   160.503] (II) synaptics: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: ignoring touch events for semi-multitouch device
[   160.503] (--) synaptics: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: x-axis range 1472 - 5600 (res 57)
[   160.503] (--) synaptics: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: y-axis range 1408 - 4884 (res 123)
[   160.503] (--) synaptics: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: pressure range 0 - 255
[   160.503] (--) synaptics: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: finger width range 0 - 15
[   160.503] (--) synaptics: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: buttons: left right middle double triple
[   160.503] (--) synaptics: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: Vendor 0x2 Product 0x7
[   160.503] (**) Option "VertScrollDelta" "250"
[   160.503] (**) Option "VertTwoFingerScroll" "on"
[   160.504] (**) Option "HorizTwoFingerScroll" "off"
[   160.504] (**) Option "TapButton1" "1"
[   160.504] (**) Option "TapButton2" "2"
[   160.504] (**) Option "TapButton3" "3"
[   160.504] (**) Option "CoastingSpeed" "0"
[   160.504] (--) synaptics: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: touchpad found
[   160.504] (**) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: always reports core events
[   160.530] (**) Option "config_info" "udev:/sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio4/input/input17/event17"
[   160.530] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" (type: TOUCHPAD, id 11)
[   160.530] (**) synaptics: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: (accel) MinSpeed is now constant deceleration 2.5
[   160.530] (**) synaptics: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: (accel) MaxSpeed is now 1.75
[   160.530] (**) synaptics: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: (accel) AccelFactor is now 0.037
[   160.531] (**) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1
[   160.531] (**) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: (accel) acceleration profile 1
[   160.531] (**) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: (accel) acceleration factor: 2.000
[   160.531] (**) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: (accel) acceleration threshold: 4
[   160.531] (--) synaptics: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: touchpad found
[   160.531] (II) config/udev: Adding input device SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad (/dev/input/mouse1)
[   160.531] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[   160.531] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[   160.532] (II) config/udev: Adding input device ST LIS3LV02DL Accelerometer (/dev/input/event5)
[   160.532] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[   160.532] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[   160.532] (II) config/udev: Adding input device ST LIS3LV02DL Accelerometer (/dev/input/js0)
[   160.532] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[   160.532] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[   160.533] (II) config/udev: Adding input device HP WMI hotkeys (/dev/input/event12)
[   160.533] (**) HP WMI hotkeys: Applying InputClass "evdev keyboard catchall"
[   160.533] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'HP WMI hotkeys'
[   160.533] (**) HP WMI hotkeys: always reports core events
[   160.533] (**) evdev: HP WMI hotkeys: Device: "/dev/input/event12"
[   160.533] (--) evdev: HP WMI hotkeys: Vendor 0 Product 0
[   160.533] (--) evdev: HP WMI hotkeys: Found keys
[   160.533] (II) evdev: HP WMI hotkeys: Configuring as keyboard
[   160.533] (**) Option "config_info" "udev:/sys/devices/virtual/input/input12/event12"
[   160.533] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "HP WMI hotkeys" (type: KEYBOARD, id 12)
[   160.533] (**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
[   160.533] (**) Option "xkb_model" "pc104"
[   160.533] (**) Option "xkb_layout" "us"
[   164.083] (II) AIGLX: Suspending AIGLX clients for VT switch
[   164.083] (II) NOUVEAU(0): NVLeaveVT is called.
[   181.123] (II) AIGLX: Resuming AIGLX clients after VT switch
[   181.123] (II) NOUVEAU(0): NVEnterVT is called.
[   181.179] (II) NOUVEAU(0): EDID vendor "CMO", prod id 5525
[   181.179] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines:
[   181.179] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline "1600x900"x0.0  107.80  1600 1626 1686 1892  900 909 919 949 -hsync -vsync (57.0 kHz eP)
[   181.517] (--) synaptics: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: touchpad found
[   181.517] setversion 1.4 failed
(EE) [mi] EQ overflowing.  Additional events will be discarded until existing events are processed.
(EE) 
(EE) Backtrace:
(EE) 0: /usr/bin/X (xorg_backtrace+0x3d) [0x57f67d]
(EE) 1: /usr/bin/X (mieqEnqueue+0x22b) [0x5615bb]
(EE) 2: /usr/bin/X (QueueKeyboardEvents+0x52) [0x44d452]
(EE) 3: /usr/bin/X (xf86PostKeyboardEvent+0x44) [0x483e84]
(EE) 4: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/evdev_drv.so (0x7f4f79e94000+0x5591) [0x7f4f79e99591]
(EE) 5: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x73da8) [0x473da8]
(EE) 6: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x9c330) [0x49c330]
(EE) 7: /usr/lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x7f4f7f8af000+0xf870) [0x7f4f7f8be870]
(EE) 8: /usr/lib/libc.so.6 (ioctl+0x7) [0x7f4f7e9eef17]
(EE) 9: /usr/lib/libdrm.so.2 (drmCommandWrite+0x5d) [0x7f4f8055e9fd]
(EE) 10: /usr/lib/libdrm_nouveau.so.2 (nouveau_bo_wait+0x8a) [0x7f4f8058446a]
(EE) 11: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nouveau_drv.so (0x7f4f7d349000+0x716b) [0x7f4f7d35016b]
(EE) 12: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libexa.so (0x7f4f7cd05000+0xb308) [0x7f4f7cd10308]
(EE) 13: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x170563) [0x570563]
(EE) 14: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0xc0f95) [0x4c0f95]
(EE) 15: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x104193) [0x504193]
(EE) 16: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x373be) [0x4373be]
(EE) 17: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x2693a) [0x42693a]
(EE) 18: /usr/lib/libc.so.6 (__libc_start_main+0xf5) [0x7f4f7e932bc5]
(EE) 19: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x26c81) [0x426c81]
(EE) 
(EE) [mi] These backtraces from mieqEnqueue may point to a culprit higher up the stack.
(EE) [mi] mieq is *NOT* the cause.  It is a victim.
(EE) [mi] EQ overflow continuing.  100 events have been dropped.
(EE) 
(EE) Backtrace:
(EE) 0: /usr/bin/X (xorg_backtrace+0x3d) [0x57f67d]
(EE) 1: /usr/bin/X (QueueKeyboardEvents+0x52) [0x44d452]
(EE) 2: /usr/bin/X (xf86PostKeyboardEvent+0x44) [0x483e84]
(EE) 3: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/evdev_drv.so (0x7f4f79e94000+0x5591) [0x7f4f79e99591]
(EE) 4: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x73da8) [0x473da8]
(EE) 5: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x9c330) [0x49c330]
(EE) 6: /usr/lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x7f4f7f8af000+0xf870) [0x7f4f7f8be870]
(EE) 7: /usr/lib/libc.so.6 (ioctl+0x7) [0x7f4f7e9eef17]
(EE) 8: /usr/lib/libdrm.so.2 (drmCommandWrite+0x5d) [0x7f4f8055e9fd]
(EE) 9: /usr/lib/libdrm_nouveau.so.2 (nouveau_bo_wait+0x8a) [0x7f4f8058446a]
(EE) 10: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nouveau_drv.so (0x7f4f7d349000+0x716b) [0x7f4f7d35016b]
(EE) 11: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libexa.so (0x7f4f7cd05000+0xb308) [0x7f4f7cd10308]
(EE) 12: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x170563) [0x570563]
(EE) 13: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0xc0f95) [0x4c0f95]
(EE) 14: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x104193) [0x504193]
(EE) 15: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x373be) [0x4373be]
(EE) 16: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x2693a) [0x42693a]
(EE) 17: /usr/lib/libc.so.6 (__libc_start_main+0xf5) [0x7f4f7e932bc5]
(EE) 18: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x26c81) [0x426c81]
(EE) 
[   216.437] [mi] Increasing EQ size to 512 to prevent dropped events.
[   216.438] [mi] EQ processing has resumed after 188 dropped events.
[   216.438] [mi] This may be caused my a misbehaving driver monopolizing the server's resources.
[   216.438] Failed to switch from vt01 to vt06: Input/output error
[   216.438] Failed to switch from vt01 to vt06: Input/output error
[   216.438] Failed to switch from vt01 to vt06: Input/output error
[   216.438] Failed to switch from vt01 to vt02: Input/output error
[   216.438] Failed to switch from vt01 to vt03: Input/output error
[   216.438] Failed to switch from vt01 to vt04: Input/output error
[   216.438] Failed to switch from vt01 to vt05: Input/output error
[   216.438] Failed to switch from vt01 to vt06: Input/output error
[   216.438] Failed to switch from vt01 to vt07: Input/output error
[   216.438] Failed to switch from vt01 to vt08: Input/output error
[   216.438] Failed to switch from vt01 to vt09: Input/output error
[   216.438] Failed to switch from vt01 to vt10: Input/output error
[   216.438] Failed to switch from vt01 to vt11: Input/output error
[   216.438] Failed to switch from vt01 to vt02: Input/output error
[   216.810] (II) evdev: HP WMI hotkeys: Close
[   216.811] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
[   216.811] (II) UnloadModule: "synaptics"
[   216.811] (II) evdev: PS/2 Generic Mouse: Close
[   216.811] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
[   216.811] (II) evdev: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Close
[   216.811] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
[   216.811] (II) evdev: Sleep Button: Close
[   216.811] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
[   216.811] (II) evdev: Video Bus: Close
[   216.811] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
[   216.811] (II) evdev: Power Button: Close
[   216.811] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev"

In addition, I can't seem to find any other files related nvidia that seem like they would matter, except for ~/.nvidia-settings-rc, which I moved to ~/.nvidia-settings-rc.bk (prior to the attempt which created the log above). Keep in mind that this is after re-installing nvidia so I can startx and have a working system... Is there anything that looks like it wouldn't be removed by the nvidia package?

# find / -name *nvidia*
/proc/irq/63/nvidia
/proc/driver/nvidia
/home/jwhendy/.nvidia-settings-rc.bk

[hits from /usr/share/icons excluded]
[hits from /usr/share/ excluded]

/usr/lib/libnvidia-tls.so
/usr/lib/modules/extramodules-3.11-ARCH/nvidia.ko.gz
/usr/lib/modules/3.11.6-1-ARCH/kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/nvidia
/usr/lib/nvidia
/usr/lib/libnvidia-tls.so.325.15
/usr/lib/libnvidia-ml.so
/usr/lib/libnvidia-glcore.so
/usr/lib/vdpau/libvdpau_nvidia.so
/usr/lib/vdpau/libvdpau_nvidia.so.1
/usr/lib/vdpau/libvdpau_nvidia.so.325.15
/usr/lib/libnvidia-glcore.so.325.15
/usr/lib/libnvidia-ml.so.325.15
/usr/lib/libnvidia-cfg.so
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so
/usr/lib/libnvidia-cfg.so.325.15
/usr/lib/modprobe.d/nvidia.conf # owned by nvidia; removed when I switch to nouveau
/usr/lib/libnvidia-cfg.so.1
/usr/lib/libnvidia-ml.so.1
/usr/bin/nvidia-settings
/usr/bin/nvidia-xconfig
/usr/bin/nvidia-smi
/usr/bin/nvidia-bug-report.sh
/usr/bin/nvidia-debugdump
/root/.nvidia-settings-rc

[hits from /var/abs/ removed]

/dev/nvidia0
/dev/nvidiactl
/sys/bus/pci/drivers/nvidia
/sys/kernel/slab/nvidia_p2p_page_t
/sys/module/drm/holders/nvidia
/sys/module/i2c_core/holders/nvidia
/sys/module/nvidia
/sys/module/nvidia/drivers/pci:nvidia

Anything look odd in the log or the files?

As always, feel free to suggest other things to try -- I can pipe ls into files to show what files are available when I'm pre-startx with nouveau installed, or more Xorg logs... My computer is not happy wtih nvidia at all and is nearly unusable. I really need to solve this until nvidia is compatible with 3.11 kernels again.

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#4 2013-10-25 13:42:25

alphaniner
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Re: Trying to switch from nvidia to nouveau; startx freezes system

Sorry, I mislead you when I said 'lingering config file'. It was actualy a necessary XFCE config file that had, I suppose, a lingering setting which nvidia didn't like.

But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist.
-Lysander Spooner

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#5 2013-10-25 18:29:22

jasonwryan
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Re: Trying to switch from nvidia to nouveau; startx freezes system

Moving to Kernel & Hardware...

Arch + dwm   •   Mercurial repos  •   Surfraw

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#6 2013-10-27 16:27:08

jwhendy
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Re: Trying to switch from nvidia to nouveau; startx freezes system

@alphaniner: my issue seems like the one describe here. I haven't rebooted and installed nouveau again and tried `startx -- -extension GLX` yet so I can't confirm. The solution there was to use an older version of mesa, which I suppose I can try as well, but I'd rather not futz with maintaining an older package.

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#7 2013-10-27 17:52:08

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Re: Trying to switch from nvidia to nouveau; startx freezes system

I don't know how helpful this would be - but if I were in your spot, my next diagnostic step would be to boot a live usb, install X in the live environment (with the noveau driver) and see if I could start X there.  This would assess compatibility of your hardware with all the recent versions of the software.  If that passes, you'll know it is some quirk of your configuration - if that test fails, then you may focus on finding where the real incompatibility lies.

"UNIX is simple and coherent..." - Dennis Ritchie, "GNU's Not UNIX" -  Richard Stallman

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#8 2013-10-28 04:27:43

jwhendy
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Re: Trying to switch from nvidia to nouveau; startx freezes system

@Trilby: I could go that route, and not a bad solution.

After f***** hours of fiddling and trying various things, I have a [partially] working system. First, what didn't work:
- moving an xorg.conf.d files to *.conf.bk
- installing xf86-video-nouveau-git and or nouveau-fw
- adding nouveau to the modules section in /etc/mkinitcpio.conf and rebuilding the initramfs
- reinstalling Xorg as suggested by the nouveau documentation, in case libglx.so was the one provided by nvidia instead of provided by xorg-server

If I let nouveau sit there for long enough at "Loading extension GLX," it would boot to a jumbled, scrambled, corrupted bundle of pixels (pink, black, and white mostly). I could eventually get it to let me switch to another TTY and look at dmesg and Xorg.0.log for issues. I was getting "GPU lockup" errors.

Then, finally I started searching for my actual chipset, the Quadra FX 1800M and found this gentoo bug report, which suggested the same issue, and even on my exact laptop (HP 8540w). There, the solution to use `noaccel=1` for the module was presented. In googling around for that, I found a family of solutions that seemed to be recommended in concert:
- noaccel=1
- nofbaccel=1
- blacklist vga16fb

I tried them all at once and was able to startx into openbox. I removed them one by one and noaccel=1 is the one providing the fix.

I now have grayed out tabs in chromium, however, similar to the issue mentioned in an old Arch post

Aaaannnnnnd... sumbeech. Was going to refer to this other Arch post and after seeing the same comment for the nth time, it finally hit me: "Wait, does my card even support hardware acceleration!?!?!?"

Checking on the nouveau feature matrix... NO!

I'm in the process of trying to extract the firmware to see if that works. I'm going to edit the Arch Nouveau wiki, as this is a no brainer to mention in the installation section. While I see clear as day that my card doesn't have hardware acceleration, converting that to use `noaccel=1` is not an obvious conclusion (at least for someone who's not that familiar with kernel/module options.

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#9 2013-12-22 06:43:35

cjazz
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Re: Trying to switch from nvidia to nouveau; startx freezes system

Since this isn't marked solved, I just wanted to weigh in here with my experience, which seems to be similar. Since kernel 3.7, my onboard Nvidia GeForce 6150se began experiencing hard freezes under nouveau. Other than memory quirks, like problems with cairo, the proprietary driver nvidia-304xx works flawlessly.

However, I have discovered I can get nouveau to work with my system by adding the file 50-device.conf to the directory /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d, containing the following:

Section "Device"
Identifier "Default Driver"
Driver "nouveau"
Option "ShadowFB" "on"
EndSection

Once again, there are some quirks (menu items disappear in Libreoffice, for example), but otherwise it's smooth sailing. I hope that might be of some use to someone.

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#10 2013-12-22 19:03:25

jwhendy
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Posts: 621

Re: Trying to switch from nvidia to nouveau; startx freezes system

@cjazz: Thanks for the input. I was trying to get things to work above, as you probably saw, with installing the firmware so that my card didn't require the `noaccel=1` option. I tried manually extracting it from the nvidia drivers, as well as using the AUR package here. The maintainer seems to think I have a bug, but I haven't gotten around to reporting it yet.

I'll link to this post when I do so, as well as giving the ShadowFB option a try in xorg.conf.d/50-device.conf to let them know if I can replicate that fix.

I get that it works... sort of, but I'd really like to have as close to a fully functioning system as possible, in other words to replicate the experience I have when using nvidia. I think it's worth it to see if nouveau can be fixed completely. From what I've seen, nouveau still doesn't replicate the speed of nvidia yet, but if everything worked aside from a little speed loss, I'd still gladly switch!

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