GNOME3 Themes not consistent (some dark, some light)

friendofarch · 2014-01-26 15:40:05

Hi,

I try to fix some annoying details on my desktop ;-)

I still haven't found a way to get the same windowdecorations for all windows (see pic below).

I tried the tweak settings and searched the web with no luck...

Any ideas?

2 different themes

Last edited by friendofarch (2014-01-28 14:23:40)

shadow82 · 2014-01-26 16:17:35

Did you tried to put the themes is /usr/share/themes ?

friendofarch · 2014-01-26 16:31:33

I think I have them all there!

$ ls /usr/share/themes/
Adwaita/     Crux/     Emacs/         Industrial/  Raleigh/  ThinIce/  Zukitwo-Shell/
Clearlooks/  Default/  HighContrast/  Mist/        Redmond/  Zukitwo/

It seems like it's supposed to be "Adwaita" both for GTK2 and GTK3 but still they are so different!

Thorsten Reinbold · 2014-01-26 16:46:47

This is a new feature that is gtk3 only. I don't remember what it is called (nested toolbars?). It's also not jet implemented in all applications, gedit is to become the next app that supports it.

Edit: it's called client side decorations.

More info: http://worldofgnome.org/csds-came-to-st … nome-3-10/

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friendofarch · 2014-01-26 18:18:19

Well, but there should be a possibility to get these dark window decorations for all windows, shouldn 't it? I can easily live with different design of the toolbars, but they should at least have the same colour!

ooo · 2014-01-26 18:45:41

I'm assuming you're using the 'global dark theme' feature, since Adwaita theme isn't dark by default.
afaik that's another feature that only works with gtk3, so gtk2 applications like gmusicbrowser will use the default bright theme.

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Shinto · 2014-01-26 19:04:50

You could try this, though it won't look as good as the dark Adwaita for GTK3:
http://askubuntu.com/questions/337018/f … -gtk-theme

friendofarch · 2014-01-26 20:34:27

Thanks for Your reply! I tried it, but only the URL field changed in colour, the window frame has still the same light gray colour :-(

And the latest version of the tweak tool doesn't have a "Enable dark theme for all applications" option...

orschiro · 2014-01-27 11:39:37

So what are your exact theme settings?

Can you post a screenshot of lxappearance?

drakkan · 2014-01-27 12:17:32

the bug should be fixed upstream

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=722802

friendofarch · 2014-01-27 16:25:26

orschiro wrote:

So what are your exact theme settings?
Can you post a screenshot of lxappearance?

Hi, I don't have lxappearance installed (isn't it for LXDE?), but here's a shot from the tweak tools appearance tab:

Settings

@drakkan:

So it's a bug and it's nothing to do about it? No possibilities to fix it in some config files?

drakkan · 2014-01-27 16:35:21

friendofarch wrote:

@drakkan:
So it's a bug and it's nothing to do about it? No possibilities to fix it in some config files?

yes this is a bug/missing feature,

to fix this you should adjust css properties in gtkrc for adwaita gtk2, however since gtk2 is still in use in several fundamentals applications would be better if fixed upstream

friendofarch · 2014-01-27 18:04:14

Alright! Since I don't feel like waiting until that's done (and don't have the knowledge to do/fix that myself I'll try to change the gtkrc files directly

That's really something I dislike about GNOME: giving users the choice is NOT part of the philosophy! I really like the handling and stuff, but this is just Maybe one day someone feels like integrating these "advanced" settings.

Thanks for Your help!

Steef435 · 2014-01-27 18:40:40

In the defense of Gnome, it's not a Gtk2 bug, it's a Gtk3 feature and it has nothing to do with Gnome (for once) - except their ties to Gtk - as mentioned earlier in the thread. The dark theme is meant for applications that need a dark theme and the option to request a dark theme was added in Gtk3(so there's no dark theme in the Gtk2 version of Adwaita at all).

EDIT: You could grab the colors from the gtk-dark.css in the Gtk3 version of Adwaita and throw it in the gtkrc of the Gtk2 version. It probably won't look as good as the Gtk3 version though.

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friendofarch · 2014-01-27 20:56:59

Steef435 wrote:

In the defense of Gnome, it's not a Gtk2 bug, it's a Gtk3 feature and it has nothing to do with Gnome (for once) - except their ties to Gtk - as mentioned earlier in the thread.

Yes, but it's the unwill to give people options to configure more than the basics! Don't think that this is a very uncommon case we have here, but still no implementation to fix this behaviour...

Anyway, maybe this is no good example for GNOMEs lack of configurability, but I jsut don't get this idea of: "This is the way we like it, so everybody has to use it the same way!" I know that I have to choice to choose another DE, but I like GNOME, really! It's just that I could imagine it to be so much better;-) What is needed to get this? A petition? A survey? (Where?) Users organizing themselves and hiring someone to do the job????

My five cents...

orschiro · 2014-01-27 21:20:11

to use it the same way!" I know that I have to choice to choose another DE, but I like GNOME, really! It's just that I could imagine it to be so much better;-) What is needed to get this? A petition? A survey? (Where?) Users organizing themselves and hiring someone to do the job????

If I were you, then I would find out what it is that I like so much about Gnome on the other side. Then have a look around what other DEs offer you and maybe some of them are actually closer than you might have thought (i.e. Cinnamon or Elementary/Pantheon). These two are known as being quite open and responsive to user feedback.

Steef435 · 2014-01-27 21:49:13

As I said before, it has nothing to do with Gnome's configuration. In fact, the "force dark" option is more a weird workaround that I wouldn't have expected from Gnome to include. You just want a different theme.

A full dark version of Adwaita would be a theme on itself. I think it's already overkill to maintain one Gtk theme when there are so much theme(rs).

Either way, I was just trying to point out that Gtk themes have nothing to do with both Gnome as a DE and how it can be configured and that a lack of a Gtk theme you prefer certainly isn't a bug(it's not an undocumented feature). That doesn't mean I think Gnome has a lot of configuration options.

If you can't find your perfect theme, perhaps you should try creating one you like. You could fork Adwaita and play around with it until you find something you like.

friendofarch · 2014-01-28 14:23:10

orschiro wrote:

If I were you, then I would find out what it is that I like so much about Gnome on the other side. Then have a look around what other DEs offer you and maybe some of them are actually closer than you might have thought (i.e. Cinnamon or Elementary/Pantheon). These two are known as being quite open and responsive to user feedback.

I have tried a couple before (Cinnamon, XFCE, Mate, KDE, Enlightenment, LXDE) but didn't like any of them as much as GNOME. But I haven't herad about Elementary/Pantheon (or Elementary was still in Alpha when I saw it), so I'll check that! Looks quite promising! SO, Thanks for that tip!

If you can't find your perfect theme, perhaps you should try creating one you like. You could fork Adwaita and play around with it until you find something you like.

I tried a bit, but it doesn't seem to be so simple...

Anyway, Thanks to You! I'll remove the [Bug] tag in the headline!

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