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Nektarios · 2014-01-27 13:18:18

I encounter some big problems with catalyst-total.

the package version is 13.12-1.
CPU Intel Core i7 920 @ 4Ghz (oc)
8GB RAM

Wine Steam Counter strike Global Official has many problems. When I run it, it corrupts the whole screen with many artifacts blinking randomly, the game is extremely slow (5-10 FPS compared to 400FPS of native windows) and it crashes and freezes the whole system/kernel sometimes.

Open source drivers work beautifully and without any problem whatsoever, except that they give very poor 3D performance.

I gave up on catalyst and tried to uninstall it but now I get another problem with the dependecies:

sudo pacman -R catalyst-total
[sudo] password for nektarios: 
checking dependencies...
error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
:: cairo: requires libgl
:: cgminer-gpu: requires libcl
:: freeglut: requires libgl
:: glu: requires libgl
:: imagemagick: requires libcl
:: lib32-cairo: requires lib32-libgl
:: lib32-glu: requires lib32-libgl
:: lib32-qt4: requires lib32-libgl
:: libva: requires libgl
:: mesa-demos: requires libgl
:: mplayer: requires libgl
:: mysql-workbench: requires libgl
:: qt4: requires libgl
:: qt5-base: requires libgl
:: qtbase-git: requires libgl
:: steam: requires lib32-libgl
:: tigervnc: requires libgl

I then try:

sudo pacman -R libgl
error: target not found: libgl

I used the xorg114 repository to install Xorg 1.4, so I removed the repository from my /etc/pacman.conf and tried to reinstall xorg-server:

sudo pacman -S xorg-server
resolving dependencies...
looking for inter-conflicts...
:: xorg-server and xf86-input-evdev are in conflict (X-ABI-XINPUT_VERSION). Remove xf86-input-evdev? [y/N] y
error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
:: xorg-server: requires xf86-input-evdev
:: catalyst-total: requires xorg-server<1.15.0

I am lost, I don't know how I can solve these problems, either fix the wine crashes or uninstall catalyst and get back to open source drivers.

Anyone can help me out?

Last edited by Nektarios (2014-01-27 13:20:14)

clfarron4 · 2014-01-27 14:33:38

@Nektarios: Try

sudo pacman -Rdd catalyst-total

Nektarios · 2014-01-27 15:08:55

Thanks, that worked. I reinstalled xf86-video-ati, reversed system alterations for catalyst and it works (except that now for some reason, I don't have 3d acceleration in steam, native or wine. still investigating).

scjet · 2014-01-28 13:03:44

Nektarios wrote:

Thanks, that worked. I reinstalled xf86-video-ati, reversed system alterations for catalyst and it works (except that now for some reason, I don't have 3d acceleration in steam, native or wine. still investigating).

The reason for that is explained here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ATI

But until AMD fix their catalyst-drivers again to work with latest Xorg...,
then I'm ok with "xf86-video-ati" for now,
atleast it works with Xorg 1.15 on my system - Asus-Notebook-A10-4600M/HD7670M series APU/GPU.

Last edited by scjet (2014-01-28 14:28:00)

hippieben · 2014-01-29 06:16:47

I'm running [catalyst] with [xorg114] and am experiencing some glitchy rendering with KDE. It seems to happen when I'm running firefox (but, then again, I'm always running firefox). Looks like a polygon or other section of the screen that flashes. The glitch clears up when that section of the screen is redrawn (scrolling or moving the window around). I haven't noticed any kind of pattern as to when it happens, and my system is up to date. Any ideas? Thanks!

Snagglepants · 2014-01-29 19:08:37

hippieben wrote:

I'm running [catalyst] with [xorg114] and am experiencing some glitchy rendering with KDE. It seems to happen when I'm running firefox (but, then again, I'm always running firefox). Looks like a polygon or other section of the screen that flashes. The glitch clears up when that section of the screen is redrawn (scrolling or moving the window around). I haven't noticed any kind of pattern as to when it happens, and my system is up to date. Any ideas? Thanks!

I started seeing this very recently as well. I've got three monitors and an older 5870 with the 6x displayport setup. KDE + Chromium seems especially bad with this.

MorningWood · 2014-01-29 22:20:57

Does anyone have any experience with bumblebee-amd? I followed the instructions on the bumblebee-amd-hacks git page but nothing occurs when I execute the ati start command. dmesg and Xorg log don't show anything out of the ordinary. Am I supposed to customize the ati script?

shazeal · 2014-01-30 16:30:34

hippieben wrote:

I'm running [catalyst] with [xorg114] and am experiencing some glitchy rendering with KDE. It seems to happen when I'm running firefox (but, then again, I'm always running firefox). Looks like a polygon or other section of the screen that flashes. The glitch clears up when that section of the screen is redrawn (scrolling or moving the window around). I haven't noticed any kind of pattern as to when it happens, and my system is up to date. Any ideas? Thanks!

Try turning on Tear Free in the AMDCCCLE settings. It does not eliminate it entirely but its close.

maroid · 2014-01-30 17:57:15

amdcccle crashes with catalyst-13.111:

(gdb) bt
#0 0x00007ffff704fd7e in QMetaObject::indexOfSlot(char const*) const () from /usr/share/ati/lib64/libQtCore.so.4
#1 0x00007ffff705d28c in QObject::connect(QObject const*, char const*, QObject const*, char const*, Qt::ConnectionType) ()
from /usr/share/ati/lib64/libQtCore.so.4
#2 0x00000000005d763b in CMouseMove::CMouseMove() ()
#3 0x000000000055e85a in CIdentifyDisplay::CIdentifyDisplay() ()
#4 0x0000000000427526 in CLDC::Initialize() ()

And X-Plane crashes too... can someone help?

episyron · 2014-01-31 05:50:36

hippieben wrote:

I'm running [catalyst] with [xorg114] and am experiencing some glitchy rendering with KDE. It seems to happen when I'm running firefox (but, then again, I'm always running firefox). Looks like a polygon or other section of the screen that flashes. The glitch clears up when that section of the screen is redrawn (scrolling or moving the window around). I haven't noticed any kind of pattern as to when it happens, and my system is up to date. Any ideas? Thanks!

What graphics card do you have? I have 5770 and I am experiencing this as well in KDE with chromium, and especially badly with spotify, when it shows HTML content. This occurs only now and then, not always. I also tried an open source drivers and this does not happen with them, but cannot use them as whole X freezes a few times a day.

hippieben · 2014-01-31 06:21:34

episyron wrote:

hippieben wrote:
I'm running [catalyst] with [xorg114] and am experiencing some glitchy rendering with KDE. It seems to happen when I'm running firefox (but, then again, I'm always running firefox). Looks like a polygon or other section of the screen that flashes. The glitch clears up when that section of the screen is redrawn (scrolling or moving the window around). I haven't noticed any kind of pattern as to when it happens, and my system is up to date. Any ideas? Thanks!
What graphics card do you have? I have 5770 and I am experiencing this as well in KDE with chromium, and especially badly with spotify, when it shows HTML content. This occurs only now and then, not always. I also tried an open source drivers and this does not happen with them, but cannot use them as whole X freezes a few times a day.

Spotify is exceptionally bad here as well. I have a 7770

hippieben · 2014-01-31 07:15:34

episyron wrote:

hippieben wrote:
I'm running [catalyst] with [xorg114] and am experiencing some glitchy rendering with KDE. It seems to happen when I'm running firefox (but, then again, I'm always running firefox). Looks like a polygon or other section of the screen that flashes. The glitch clears up when that section of the screen is redrawn (scrolling or moving the window around). I haven't noticed any kind of pattern as to when it happens, and my system is up to date. Any ideas? Thanks!
What graphics card do you have? I have 5770 and I am experiencing this as well in KDE with chromium, and especially badly with spotify, when it shows HTML content. This occurs only now and then, not always. I also tried an open source drivers and this does not happen with them, but cannot use them as whole X freezes a few times a day.

What version of OpenGL do you have selected in System Settings > Desktop Effects > Advanced?

maroid · 2014-01-31 09:17:16

Aha. Thanks for your comments. I assume amdcccle works for everybody and you guys don't want to bother with it.
Removing /usr/lib/ati/lib64/libQt*.so.4 and create symlinks to local qt4 installation fixes it but i assume nobody is interessted in this funfact.

Last edited by maroid (2014-01-31 09:21:19)

episyron · 2014-01-31 13:49:45

@hippieben: OpenGL 3.1/Native. That is the only working setting for effects I use...

hippieben · 2014-01-31 22:23:51

maroid wrote:

Aha. Thanks for your comments. I assume amdcccle works for everybody and you guys don't want to bother with it.
Removing /usr/lib/ati/lib64/libQt*.so.4 and create symlinks to local qt4 installation fixes it but i assume nobody is interessted in this funfact.

Glad you fixed your issue, and thank you for following up with the solution in case someone else runs into that in the future.

episyron wrote:

@hippieben: OpenGL 3.1/Native. That is the only working setting for effects I use...

Me too, I just dropped it down to v 2.0 native and am going to see if that changes anything. Spotify still goes crazy, but resizing the window appeases it temporarily (not something new after switching opengl 2)

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hippieben · 2014-01-31 22:24:29

double post

Last edited by hippieben (2014-01-31 22:25:56)

Semedisenape · 2014-02-01 14:29:39

Sorry for my newbie question...

Can I install catalyst 12.08 with pacman?
If yes: How?
Thanks

P.S. I've set xorg112 and catalyst-stable.

hippieben · 2014-02-01 19:56:01

Semedisenape wrote:

Sorry for my newbie question...
Can I install catalyst 12.08 with pacman?
If yes: How?
Thanks
P.S. I've set xorg112 and catalyst-stable.

Try using downgrade

Last edited by hippieben (2014-02-01 19:57:00)

snowblind · 2014-02-02 07:37:04

Catalyst 14.1 was released: http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-article … river.aspx

And it has some pretty juicy updates:

- Xorg 1.15 support
- Linux 3.13 support

And for me, this is especially nice:

[389431] : Screens are distorted when connecting an external monitor on some Haswell platforms

I'm *hoping* this is a reference to the distortions that some PXP laptops get when using an external monitor, though I'll do some tests shortly.

fc · 2014-02-02 11:18:25

How do I configure keybinds with aticonfig (terminal)? I don't want to enable multilib, hence amdcccle doesn't apparently work.

I just want ctrl+alt+super+right to change orientation to pivot (1200x1920) and ctrl+alt+super+up to change it back to landscape.

ChemBro · 2014-02-02 11:50:37

fc wrote:

I just want ctrl+alt+super+right to change orientation to pivot (1200x1920) and ctrl+alt+super+up to change it back to landscape.

You might be able to do that with your DE/WM. KDE for example has kscreen, which handles it. Don't know about Pivot, because haven't used it (might use it now), I mean, I don't know about hotkeys, but you can use kscreen to change the orientation on-the-fly.

fc · 2014-02-02 12:32:20

Sorry, I should have mentioned that I'm pretty much only using Openbox.

edit: should have done more searching, atleast

xrandr -o left

seems to have worked fine.

Last edited by fc (2014-02-02 12:49:47)

Radioactiveman · 2014-02-02 13:35:16

@Vi0L0:

could you please update the "provides" section for catalyst?
It should provide mesa-libgl now, otherwise xorg-server cannot be built since this commit.

@all:

If you want to test 14.1, here's an updated PKGBUILD of catalyst-test.
Works fine with xorg-server 1.15.0.

Vi0L0 · 2014-02-02 14:29:04

Radioactiveman wrote:

@Vi0L0:
could you please update the "provides" section for catalyst?
It should provide mesa-libgl now, otherwise xorg-server cannot be built since this commit.
@all:
If you want to test 14.1, here's an updated PKGBUILD of catalyst-test.
Works fine with xorg-server 1.15.0.

yeah, i've been testing 14.1.
as for the 'mesa-libgl' - could this be a mistake? Is there any logical reson for such a change?
I can see that mesa-libgl provides libgl, same as nvidia-libgl (does not provide mesa-libgl).
I also don't see any logical reason to continue this mistake, saying that catalyst provides mesas libgl library would be a lie.
edit: i wrote to Andy, maybe he will give some answer

Last edited by Vi0L0 (2014-02-02 14:43:33)

Half-Shot · 2014-02-02 15:36:10

Vi0L0 wrote:

Radioactiveman wrote:
@Vi0L0:
could you please update the "provides" section for catalyst?
It should provide mesa-libgl now, otherwise xorg-server cannot be built since this commit.
@all:
If you want to test 14.1, here's an updated PKGBUILD of catalyst-test.
Works fine with xorg-server 1.15.0.
yeah, i've been testing 14.1.
as for the 'mesa-libgl' - could this be a mistake? Is there any logical reson for such a change?
I can see that mesa-libgl provides libgl, same as nvidia-libgl (does not provide mesa-libgl).
I also don't see any logical reason to continue this mistake, saying that catalyst provides mesas libgl library would be a lie.
edit: i wrote to Andy, maybe he will give some answer

Odd, i just changed it to libgl because my system depends on THAT. Works fine.

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