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#1 2004-02-05 02:37:17

snoopy
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grub or lilo

hello, I'm new to Arch and I really like it
Right now I'm using Lilo because it was easy for me , but I'd like to switch to grub
I've got:

append="hdc=scsi hdd=scsi apm=power-off"

in my lilo config and I'd like to know how to use append or another command  in grub
thank you  very much
bernard

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#2 2004-02-05 05:11:37

sarah31
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Re: grub or lilo

this was my grub conf when i used arch:

#(0) Arch Linux
title Arch Linux [/boot/vmlinuz]
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz hdd=ide-scsi root=/dev/discs/disc0/part1 ro

(this was for the stock 2.4.2x kernel)


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#3 2004-02-05 15:13:47

secsaba
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Re: grub or lilo

what are you using now sarah31? why?

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#4 2004-02-05 16:29:01

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Re: grub or lilo

snoopy wrote:

Right now I'm using Lilo because it was easy for me , but I'd like to switch to grub

Out of curiosity, why do you want to switch?

Dusty

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#5 2004-02-05 16:41:02

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Re: grub or lilo

one fact to consider:

lilo, you can remove and restore the original mbr --- grub must be overwritten, because there is no option to uninstall it from mbr

a tip from experience: make a mbr-backup with dd ... just in case ... and have knoppix or RIP as a CD somewhere if you are playing with mbr


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#6 2004-02-05 22:29:05

snoopy
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Re: grub or lilo

Out of curiosity, why do you want to switch?

just to try grub, as all the distributions I've tried used Lilo
but I still a linux  learner so I want to experiment
I read about Lilo and grub but I can't tell what is the one I like more...
It's not like distributions, I've tried a lot and really like Arch right now
smile
if you have good stuff about lilo or grub I'd like to have your opinion
merci beaucoup
bernard

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#7 2004-02-05 22:47:05

sarah31
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Re: grub or lilo

i like lilo but the single biggest benefit of grub is not having to run grub after a kernel upgrade. as long as the image and root match your kernel image and root= location then you are good to go.


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#8 2004-02-06 15:46:26

Dusty
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Re: grub or lilo

sarah31 wrote:

the single biggest benefit of grub is not having to run grub after a kernel upgrade

I never thought of that. The reason I asked is that I've never really had a good reason to use one over the other. I'm using lilo right now because it's easier to set up a graphical boot prompt. (With the entries between the Arches wink)

Also, Lilo sounds nicer than Grub. :-D

Dusty

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#9 2004-02-06 16:14:06

dauphin
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Registered: 2003-07-09
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Re: grub or lilo

Grub is also makes it very easy if you're messing around with OS's on other partitions, as it allows tab-completion at the splash-screen stage.  So if you're not exactly sure which partition that new OS is installed on, or precisely what it calls its kernel image, or whether it requires an initrd, you can call up the options with the tab key.  It allows you to experiment until you get it right, and if you make a mistake you can usually escape back to the splash-screen and try again.  Then once you have established the correct parameters you just enter them in grub.conf next time you're in your main OS (i.e. Arch of course! wink)

I found it a bit awkward to get Grub up and running the first time, but it has certainly repaid that initial investment as far as I am concerned.

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