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#1 2014-02-12 19:34:54

mythus
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After removing Trinity, KTP, konqueror-ftp, gnome malfunctions

Greetings,

Out of a sense of morbid curiousity and somewhat wanting to take a trip down memory lane, I decided to give Trinity DE a try. I already had KDE 4 - which was my primary DE, Gnome, and Enlightment installed.

Following the wiki I was able to get Trinity to install with minimal fuss. I know I had to remove some files but other than that, do big deal. The files I removed are:

pacman -Rdd sip python2-sip
pacman -R musepack-tools-svn
rm -R /usr/lib/libmpcdec.so

Long story short, I toyed with Trinity for a day and decided it is no longer for me. So I went back to KDE 4. Kde 4 was working fine. I did several system upgrades, did my college work, did webstie stuff, talked to people on kde-telepathy.... All seemed good.

Today I wanted to ftp some stuff into my website. My prefered FTP client is none other than Konqueror. Well, it wouldn't work for some reason - I can't remember the error. I brainstormed for a bit and thought that maybe, just maybe Trinity was causing the issue. So I issued a pacman -Rcns tde-complete and got rid of it.

That is when the trouble really began...

Now I can't use kde-telepathy, it gives me the following:

Something unexpected happened to the core part of your Instant Messaging system and it couldn't be initialized. Try restarting the Contact List.

FTP in Konqueror won't work. Instead of the error I got before it just aborts right away.

So I go through and reinstall sip, python2-sip, musepacks-tools-svn... doesn't fix it.
I reinstall kde-telepathy-meta, doesn't fix it
I reinstall kde-meta, doesn't fix it.

I decide to see if the errors persist in my other DE's. Enlightment works fine. Gnome throws me right back to KDM.

I decide to reinstall gnome. It doesn't fix it, and I get the following error:

Note that '/usr/share' is not in the search path set by the XDG_DATA_HOME and XDG_DATA_DIRS environment variables, so applications may not be able to find it until you set them.

After doing some googling, I try the following:

unset XDG_DATA_HOME XDG_DATA_DIRS
export XDG_DATA_DIRS="/opt/kde/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/share"

It doesn't fix it, but it does restore the default icons in systray of KDE 4....

So um..  I'm out of ideas. Short of reinstalling and starting from scratch, I don't know what else to do. I am hoping you guys can help me. I really don't want to reinstall .....


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#2 2014-02-12 19:48:07

drcouzelis
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Re: After removing Trinity, KTP, konqueror-ftp, gnome malfunctions

Try starting stuff as a new user. If it works, then you'll know it's just a problem with your configuration "dot" files.

Stop uninstalling / reinstalling stuff. All that does is make your drive tired. This is Arch Linux and pacman. If it got installed with pacman than it's the same as any other time it got installed with pacman. tongue

But you can read through your pacman log to remove or add any packages that you've added and removed since your computer last worked. If you do that then it's no different from reinstalling Arch Linux.

Last edited by drcouzelis (2014-02-12 19:52:47)

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#3 2014-02-12 19:58:39

mythus
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Re: After removing Trinity, KTP, konqueror-ftp, gnome malfunctions

I'll take a close look at the dot files.

Konqueror's FTP is working again. Not sure why though... KDE Telepathy Client isn't yet though, nor is Gnome.

But pacman makes it so easy to break your system... er I mean try new things.


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#4 2014-02-13 11:57:02

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Re: After removing Trinity, KTP, konqueror-ftp, gnome malfunctions

pacman -Rcns tde-complete

I used those flags in the past also to clean things up , until 1 day to many things were removed.
I had to boot from a usb-stick, check pacman.log and reinstall many pacakges.

Since then i switched to -Rns as removal flags, and use pacman -Qm / -Qdt    to get rid of leftovers (but AFTER checking if i need them).


Disliking systemd intensely, but not satisfied with alternatives so focusing on taming systemd.

clean chroot building not flexible enough ?
Try clean chroot manager by graysky

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#5 2014-02-13 12:23:49

mythus
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Re: After removing Trinity, KTP, konqueror-ftp, gnome malfunctions

Yes, -Rcns is an old habbit, and judging from this experience, a bad one. Luckily I don't have to boot from a rescue disc.

I didn't think to check pacman.log to see what other packages I am missing....


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#6 2014-02-13 22:54:55

mythus
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Re: After removing Trinity, KTP, konqueror-ftp, gnome malfunctions

*sigh* no luck.

I went through the pacman.log and reinstalled everything that was removed - with the exception of TDE stuff. There was quite a bit removed by doing a -Rcns on tde-complete....

Rebooted, nothing changed/fixed.

I went through and dealt with dot files, removing them for ktp, gnome stuff, etc. Didn't fix anything.

I guess I'm going to have to swallow the re-install pill, but that is going to wait until this weekend when I have some time. Unless of course someone comes up with the answer to fix the issue or where I can find the answer.

The pacman log was a good place to look. I don't what else could be the cause though.... This is about as far as my knowledge in arch goes...

So yeah, can't log into gnome (probably wouldn't use it very long but I hate that I can't log into it without being kicked out back to KDM) -- hmm I wonder what would happen if I switched to GDM....
KTP Telepathy Contact List still gives the something is wrong message... completely clueless there which sucks because I really like ktp telepathy.

EDIT: I went ahead and tried with using GDM instead of KDM. Still can't get into Gnome (or Gnome Classic). It kicks me right back to GDM.

Last edited by mythus (2014-02-13 23:01:56)


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