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UI stands for User Interface. I believe that the UI suffix might have originated as a result of a division into print/screen fonts. The quality of fonts available today has greatly improved and many of them are much more universal. However, some still fit better in a UI context or, like in this case, were designed especially for such a purpose.
Noto Sans UI can be considered a 'liberated' version of Segoe UI. It is a part of the default Android font collection, alongside Roboto and a handful of others.
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Alright thanks. So it is intentional that both types are provided and the UI version should have preference over the non UI for (GTK/Qt) theming?
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Yes, it is. They both come from the same source and the same Mercurial repository by Google. As for the use scenario, give preference to the version of your choice. Personally, I use anything that works, especially when there is no huge quality gap between various options. In either case, they both do not collide so you do not need to worry that this little excess will do any harm.
.: fontconfig update :.
There is a little fontconfig-iu update waiting for you. It should eliminate a few bugs and a get rid of a licensing issue I noticed when discussing a possible add-on to the ib-fonts collection. Finally, I added one more customization option for those of you who encounter poorly coded web sites with multilingual content. All you may need to know can be found in the updated Wiki article.
New fonts were added to the collection and/or supported by fontconfig-iu:
Brill (AUR)
Clear Sans (ib-fonts-extra)
Neris (AUR)
Again, valid links to the packages in the AUR can be found in the Wiki.
Aller was removed from the collection: I find its license a bit vague and do not think we have to stick with a typeface that can be replaced by an entirely free one. Hence, Ubuntu font family has been promoted as it seems to render even better than in its native environment.
Enjoy.
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Thanks. I just removed aller and am trying to install the AUR packages to have a look.
Currently installing otf-brill but I get a failed validity check when I try to compile otf-neris.
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I re-uploaded the AUR package -- please check if everything is OK now.
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I re-uploaded the AUR package -- please check if everything is OK now.
I deleted my download, the downloaded source and redownloaded the package from AUR but I still get the error:
$ makepkg
==> Making package: otf-neris 1.00-2 (Iau 19 Rha 03:02:01 GMT 2013)
==> Checking runtime dependencies...
==> Checking buildtime dependencies...
==> Retrieving sources...
-> Downloading neris...
% Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current
Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed
100 994k 100 994k 0 0 337k 0 0:00:02 0:00:02 --:--:-- 337k
==> Validating source files with md5sums...
neris ... FAILED
==> ERROR: One or more files did not pass the validity check!
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Odd… Do you mind checking out yet another one, please?
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Odd… Do you mind checking out yet another one, please?
Thanks! That works fine.
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Ubuntu regular fonts turn more "fat" (like bold) than usual.
and medium (new type?) have same size than regular (fat)
this is a spected behavior ?
greetings
edit:
with 0.80-5 http://i.imgur.com/1SlLEbF.png
with 0.80-6 http://i.imgur.com/N5IN1pL.png
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I guess I know what it is: I included Ubuntu medium weight in the package which seems to be picked instead of regular. Can you manually select Ubuntu Regular in KDE's control panel? It should do the job. Would you mind checking this out and reporting back?
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yes,I can select regular, but have same size than medium
medium: http://i.imgur.com/7PfJZr5.png
regular: http://i.imgur.com/wzUGMAf.png
light: http://i.imgur.com/DsuqZFy.png
bold: http://i.imgur.com/DnD6BMv.png
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OK, I will remove the medium weight then. Please, run pacman -Syu in a few minutes.
Last edited by bohoomil (2013-12-20 22:12:35)
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oks, now back working. thanks
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How can I get DejaVuSans.ttf working?
I mean, I see this package 'ttf-dejavu-ibx' and try to install it (hopefully replacing t1-dejavu-ib), but:
yaourt -S ttf-dejavu-ibx
resolving dependencies...
looking for inter-conflicts...
:: ttf-dejavu-ibx and t1-dejavu-ib are in conflict (ttf-dejavu). Remove t1-dejavu-ib? [y/N] y
error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
:: ibfonts-meta-base: requires t1-dejavu-ib
If all else fails, I'll simply get a copy of the TTF and copy it into /usr/share/fonts/TTF (it is only needed because one specific package is looking for this exact file). But it seems like there should be a far simpler fix.
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@likytau, you need to remove ibfonts-meta-base (and ibfonts-meta-extended, if present). DejaVu family T1 can then be replaced with the TTF package.
Were I you, I would simply modify the dependency list of stone-soup-git instead: I am sure DejaVu T1 will work seamlessly with it.
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@likytau, you need to remove ibfonts-meta-base (and ibfonts-meta-extended, if present). DejaVu family T1 can then be replaced with the TTF package.
Okay, so I can get the TTF versions instead as a choice on reinstalling? Fair enough, I don't really understand the relative merit of Type1 fonts anyway.
Were I you, I would simply modify the dependency list of stone-soup-git instead: I am sure DejaVu T1 will work seamlessly with it.
No, it's not in the dependency list, it's part of the build process, it looks for two exact files "DejaVuSans{,Mono}.ttf" , not a package.
This is common for games, to need an exact set of font files; they usually do their own font rendering.
FWIW, I did end up manually installing those two files, and stone-soup-git then compiled and worked fine.
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@likytau, the reason we decided to use T1 instead of TTF was incorrect rendering of a couple of diacritics and an overall better quality of the former. I left the TTF version for users who might ever need it for any reason (like yours), so install the TTF and the current one will be removed. Just use the package from the ib-fonts collection because it comes with dedicated fontconfig config files. (IMO, it is not safe to mix two different types of fonts, so you had better pick the whole TTF set. You will see if you really need to do it, though.)
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Hi bohoomil! I have a weird issue and I'm not sure if it's related to your font packages or not. Chromium and Firefox tend to render fonts very poorly. Fonts are dull and a little too bright. They render beautifully in dwb though. I was wondering if you could point me to some settings I could tweak that maybe I haven't see yet. Fonts render poorly in gnome-shell and i3, and using the free and ms presets. I noticed there was an entry in the wiki regarding font-rendering in google-chrome, and I've followed those instructions. The only other change I've made was to the 60-latin-free.conf file where I set Liberation Sans as my default sans font. Take a look at the screenshot here to see the difference. Chromium is on the left and dwb is on the right.
Let me know if there's any more information I can provide. Hopefully there's just some configuration I can tweak. Thanks!
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I think you should try changing the default rendering paradigm in /etc/profile.d/infinality-settings.sh, especially one of the two: 4 and 5:
USE_STYLE="4" <================== BY DEFAULT IT'S SET TO 1; CHANGE THE NUMBER TO 4 OR 5
if [ "$USE_STYLE" = "1" ]; then
export INFINALITY_FT_FILTER_PARAMS="07 23 36 23 07"
elif [ "$USE_STYLE" = "2" ]; then
export INFINALITY_FT_FILTER_PARAMS="06 25 44 25 06"
elif [ "$USE_STYLE" = "3" ]; then
export INFINALITY_FT_FILTER_PARAMS="11 22 38 22 11"
elif [ "$USE_STYLE" = "4" ]; then
export INFINALITY_FT_FILTER_PARAMS="13 25 38 25 13"
elif [ "$USE_STYLE" = "5" ]; then
export infinality_ft_filter_PARAMS="14 24 38 24 14"
fi
They were meant to provide a stronger, darker look & feel, so this is where you may want to start tweaking.
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I think you should try changing the default rendering paradigm in /etc/profile.d/infinality-settings.sh, especially one of the two: 4 and 5:
USE_STYLE="4" <================== BY DEFAULT IT'S SET TO 1; CHANGE THE NUMBER TO 4 OR 5 if [ "$USE_STYLE" = "1" ]; then export INFINALITY_FT_FILTER_PARAMS="07 23 36 23 07" elif [ "$USE_STYLE" = "2" ]; then export INFINALITY_FT_FILTER_PARAMS="06 25 44 25 06" elif [ "$USE_STYLE" = "3" ]; then export INFINALITY_FT_FILTER_PARAMS="11 22 38 22 11" elif [ "$USE_STYLE" = "4" ]; then export INFINALITY_FT_FILTER_PARAMS="13 25 38 25 13" elif [ "$USE_STYLE" = "5" ]; then export infinality_ft_filter_PARAMS="14 24 38 24 14" fi
They were meant to provide a stronger, darker look & feel, so this is where you may want to start tweaking.
Thanks for your reply. I changed USE_STYLE to 5, logged out and back in but it didn't seem to make much of a difference. It honestly just seems like Firefox and Chromium/Chrome do a crappy job of rendering fonts because my fonts look excellent everywhere else. I'd appreciate any other ideas you might have, but I wouldn't worry too much about it. I like dwb enough. Thanks again for all your work on this!
EDIT: Figured it out. Didn't notice a fonts.conf in .config/fontconfig/. rgba was set to none instead of rgb. After I fixed it everything looks great again.
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What about adding the otf-ipamjfont for japanese rendering ? It's my favorite when it comes to write some text and print it.
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What about adding the otf-ipamjfont for japanese rendering ? It's my favorite when it comes to write some text and print it.
Done.
I also added Koruri font. I have been testing it for quite a long time and it is a really decent screen font.
Enjoy.
Last edited by bohoomil (2014-03-07 20:00:59)
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Bug: In infinality-settings.sh, this should ALL be in upper-case:
infinality_ft_filter_PARAMS="14 24 38 24 14"
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A momentary blindness of mine. Thanks.
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Hi,
following the Wiki article Infinality-bundle+fonts i get (german output)
Konnte Datei 't1-dejavu-ib-2.34-4-any.pkg.tar.xz' nicht von ibn.net63.net übertragen : HTTP server doesn't seem to support byte ranges. Cannot resume.
from pacman
I know this was reported before but I thought I let you know to fix the hungry repo
How to use the Dropbox backup repository?
Manually download and install fonts/t1-dejavu-ib-2.34-4-any.pkg.tar.xz?
Thanks in advance for some advice,
slaecker
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